From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Mar 29 16:33:04 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA17240 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:33:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2TDVA110215 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:31:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA16721; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:30:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:30:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: ICWS94 Draft X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:40:25 +0200, Sascha Zapf wrote: >Especially i want know what the following Instruction does. > > NOP <-9,<-10 > >Nothing, or a 2c Imp-Gate > It operates, for a single cycle, as two single-c impgates. Then it dies. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Mar 29 21:34:50 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA09854 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:34:49 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2TIYma21988 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:34:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA18657; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:31:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:31:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <985886327.244383@bau2.a-city.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: foerster@a-city.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_F=F6rster?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Hills on pizza server down? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Does anybody get replies when sending warriors to the hills on the pizza server. For about three days they seem to be dead. Anybody else experiencing this? -- Stefan Foerster http://home.a-city.de/stefan.foerster Quote of the Day: To an outsider, most corporate bureaucracies are, by definition, a mystery. (They are often a mystery to insiders as well, but that's another story.) Mark H. McCormack, On Communicating (p. 202) (created at stardate [-30]6403.7858, Thu Mar 29 19:10:19 2001) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 00:33:55 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA16630 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:33:55 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2TLXsa09269 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:33:54 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA20050; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 16:32:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: CoreWars on X Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Most of you are probably Windows or Linux people, so I'll be brief. I was wondering if anyone was working on a MARS for OS X, and if not would any other mac people be interested in doing it. With Cocoa it should be simple, and the game sounds very cool, and easy to implement. Thanks Snitty From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 01:34:16 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA14918 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:34:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2TMYDa17165 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:34:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20490; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:32:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:32:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9a08t0$kl6$1@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nrussell@acsu.buffalo.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan F Russell To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: CoreWars on X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: MACSNITKOFF wrote: > Most of you are probably Windows or Linux people, so I'll be brief. Probably a good thing for the Windows people. However, you should be aware that you used 3-syllable words in several places - that might not be a good idea. Nathan, who couldn't resist. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 01:34:25 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA07401 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:34:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2TMWX109082 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:32:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20510; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:32:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:32:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9a0bal$4s7$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: CoreWars on X X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , MACSNITKOFF wrote: >Most of you are probably Windows or Linux people, so I'll be brief. I was >wondering if anyone was working on a MARS for OS X, and if not would any >other mac people be interested in doing it. With Cocoa it should be simple, >and the game sounds very cool, and easy to implement. The non-display bits of pMARS should compile pretty trivially under OS X, I imagine (it being BSD based, as I understand); I've never actually compiled pMARS on a BSD box (must install it on one of my machines one of these days...), but I don't know any reason it shouldn't work. [Blatant plug: my autoconf patch for pMARS is on the SourceForge project page, and may help here :-) ] The display side would I imagine be trickier though... Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 09:35:32 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id JAA11520 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:35:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2U6ZUa22600 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:35:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24054; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:33:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:33:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9a14s3$s1v116@imsp212.netvigator.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: news@e2046.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "E2046" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Find Game Character? 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From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 14:37:41 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id OAA32681 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:37:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2UBbea25400 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:37:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27335; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:35:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:35:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3ac45d67.9852696@news.ntlworld.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk (Submersible) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Find Game Character? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:22:54 +0800, "E2046" wrote: >Welcome to www.e2046.com >What will you find? >Gundam 0083, The Five Star Stories, Gao Gai Gar, Armored Core, Aura Battler >Dunbine, Getter Robo, Mazinger, Macross, Wares 1092, Zeta Gundam, Alien, >Tetsujin 28, Panzer World Galient, Virtual On, Super Robot, ...... >Ah! My Goddess, Dead or Alive, Evangelion, Angel Links, Battle Athletes, >Betterman, Berserk, Hakaider, Batman, AIKa, Blade 2040, The Bouncer, Card >Captor Sakura, Cerafics Feather, Chinese Hero, Cowboy Bebop, Cutey Honey, >...... >More and more items could be found in www.e2046.com >What are you waiting for? > Megatokyo shonen ai manga. Then I can die exhaustedly. -sd, "...all my things in the car, and driving west til I run out of gas." From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 14:38:14 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id OAA32026 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:38:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2UBcCa25709 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:38:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA27355; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:35:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:35:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3ac45ebe.10195642@news.ntlworld.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk (Submersible) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Find Game Character? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:20:29 GMT, cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk (Submersible) wrote: >On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:22:54 +0800, "E2046" wrote: > >>Welcome to www.e2046.com >>What will you find? >>Gundam 0083, The Five Star Stories, Gao Gai Gar, Armored Core, Aura Battler >>Dunbine, Getter Robo, Mazinger, Macross, Wares 1092, Zeta Gundam, Alien, >>Tetsujin 28, Panzer World Galient, Virtual On, Super Robot, ...... >>Ah! My Goddess, Dead or Alive, Evangelion, Angel Links, Battle Athletes, >>Betterman, Berserk, Hakaider, Batman, AIKa, Blade 2040, The Bouncer, Card >>Captor Sakura, Cerafics Feather, Chinese Hero, Cowboy Bebop, Cutey Honey, >>...... >>More and more items could be found in www.e2046.com >>What are you waiting for? >> > >Megatokyo shonen ai manga. Then I can die exhaustedly. Hmm. They may spam, but they're nevertheless rather endearing. 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First of all, FG1079CP 1/6 Rei Ayanami in Bandage (Pre-painted) for US$95.90 only and the others are just arrived: FG1188 & FG1189 " -sd From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 15:33:49 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA27641 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:33:49 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2UCXla07526 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:33:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA27722; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:29:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:29:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: james.mcg@ntlworld.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "James McGuigan" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Find Game Character? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Submersible wrote in message news:3ac45ebe.10195642@news.ntlworld.com... > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:20:29 GMT, cs92jd@eim.surrey.ac.uk > (Submersible) wrote: > > >On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:22:54 +0800, "E2046" wrote: > > > >>Welcome to www.e2046.com > >>What will you find? > >>Gundam 0083, The Five Star Stories, Gao Gai Gar, Armored Core, Aura Battler > >>Dunbine, Getter Robo, Mazinger, Macross, Wares 1092, Zeta Gundam, Alien, > >>Tetsujin 28, Panzer World Galient, Virtual On, Super Robot, ...... > >>Ah! My Goddess, Dead or Alive, Evangelion, Angel Links, Battle Athletes, > >>Betterman, Berserk, Hakaider, Batman, AIKa, Blade 2040, The Bouncer, Card > >>Captor Sakura, Cerafics Feather, Chinese Hero, Cowboy Bebop, Cutey Honey, > >>...... > >>More and more items could be found in www.e2046.com > >>What are you waiting for? > >> > > > >Megatokyo shonen ai manga. Then I can die exhaustedly. > > Hmm. They may spam, but they're nevertheless rather endearing. From > the front page: > > "06/03/2001 Today we are sorry for the customers with serious and high > moral standards as well as the person who aged under 18. First of all, > FG1079CP 1/6 Rei Ayanami in Bandage (Pre-painted) for US$95.90 only > and the others are just arrived: FG1188 & FG1189 " > > > -sd There always seems a sence of sencerity with poorly done english traslations. We try to deliver Goods throughout the world. 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However, we make an apology for potential customers of non-served area indeed. -- Rules are written for those who lack the ability to truly reason, But for those who can, the rules become nothing more than guidelines, And live their lives governed not by rules but by reason. - James McGuigan (www.starsfaq.com) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Mar 30 22:38:35 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA13628 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:38:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2UJcXa07560 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:38:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00659; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:36:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:36:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu > > Btw, I think it would be good idea to have a newer benchmark which > > reflects the make of modern hills. Warriors like one-shots, p- > > switchers, etc should be included. > >Why not use the top-25 of the OPEN-Koenigstuhl (or 94nop)? > >Christoph The problem with that is that Koenigstuhl doesn't reflect the 'real' hills too well with the top of its open hill dominated by p-spacers and the 94nop hill dominated by scanners. In both cases, those are the best warriors to make huge gains against the 'chaff' warriors and at the same time have low tie rates against each other. A good 'real' hill benchmark is to take whatever is on the hill, find which of those are published, and use those as the main base of your benchmark. If any category of warrior happens to be missing on the current hill (perhaps no oneshots are currently on the hill), add one of those of your choice to the benchmark. And you probably want to cull out duplicates, like no need to have two carbonite based stone/imps in your benchmark. Of course, you can't usually benchmark the beginner's hill like that since most of it is unpublished, but if you can get something to do well on a 94 benchmark, it will usually do well on the beginner's hill. -Ben _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 14:02:11 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id OAA02823 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:02:10 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f31KXs110940 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:33:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22903; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: marketing@playmybingo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: marketing@playmybingo.com To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Win free cash playing bingo X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Play free bingo and win cash and prizes. Visit http://www.playmybingo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 14:22:51 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id OAA16649 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:22:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f31GOF102164 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:24:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21294; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 12:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <000001c0ba7e$dd2048a0$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > > The problem with that is that Koenigstuhl doesn't reflect the 'real' hills > > too well with the top of its open hill dominated by p-spacers and the 94nop > > hill dominated by scanners. > > I have to disagree that the (recursive) 'Koenigstuhl' ranks are dominated > by the scores against weaker warriors. .. > I claim: The Top-Koenigstuhl programs are the best programs written, > and are a good general benchmark. I took a look a this a while back. By design the recursive hills place a low weight on performance against weaker warriors so the top of the hill are warriors that do well against other strong warriors. I think the recursive hills are the best public measure we have of the state of the art, and any code that does well against them is likely to do well on the hills. When using any benchmark rather than testing against the hills you should consider a couple of potential problems: 1) An over-optimised warrior that is tuned to the benchmark step sizes, decoy locations etc will not do well against fresh opponents. 2) You will defend against threats and attempt to exploit opportunities that are not present at the hills at moment. IMHO this is good, because it increases your life expectancy, but it may make it a little harder to get on the hill for the first time... Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:09:49 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA17533 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:09:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2VIZ6120092 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:35:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11589; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:33:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:33:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Okay, moving on to the next program, I'm trying to make a dwarf bomb now. . . I can't seem to get a MOV command to move multiple lines. When you use a word as a marker in the program like this: dwarf: ADD #12, #6 SUB #12, #0 MOV 3, @-2 MOV 2, @-2 JMP -4 DAT #33, #33 Is there anyway to get a MOV dwarf, 3 command to move everything shown? Or would I have to do MOV dwarf, 3 MOV dwarf+1, 4 . . . . Thanks Snitty From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:22:19 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA27508 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:22:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f323ejw14892 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:40:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25579; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 23:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <001a01c0bafd$567e8bc0$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > I can't seem to get a MOV command to move multiple lines. When you use a > word as a marker in the program like this: > dwarf: ADD #12, #6 > SUB #12, #0 > MOV 3, @-2 > MOV 2, @-2 > JMP -4 > DAT #33, #33 > > Is there anyway to get a MOV dwarf, 3 command to move everything shown? Or > would I have to do MOV dwarf, 3 MOV dwarf+1, 4 . . . . You can't merge the MOV operations, but you can merge the ADD and SUB. You could use something like: Ptr DAT #Bomb+1, #0 Inc DAT #12, #-12 Dwarf ADD Inc, Ptr MOV Bomb, @Ptr MOV Bomb, *Ptr JMP -3 Bomb DAT #33, #33 END Dwarf This adds to the a and b fields of Ptr in a single operation, so the loop is now only 4 instructions long and you throw an average of 0.5 bombs per cycle instead of 0.4 as before. The cost is that the warrior is 1 word longer, and making this kind of payoff is at the heart of writing good warriors. Of course there are lots of tricks you can try to make the warrior shorter again. Saving 1 word is easy. Saving 2 words might force you to use a stepsize of -3 -- left as an exercise ;-) BTW, the END is needed because the warrior no longer starts with the first word. Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:38:03 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA04809 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:37:59 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V4WM105503 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:32:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04920; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:32:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:32:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3AC549BE.9D8C8D72@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: MACSNITKOFF wrote: > > Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could > someone help/flame me? > snip Welcome 2 general suggestions: - run your warriors in graphical display mode: when you get this closer to what you want you'll get a nice pattern of dots across the screen. - and step through them a line at a time in pmars debugger mode (the "-e" option). Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:38:06 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA04127 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:38:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V52Q105875 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 08:02:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA05194; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:02:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:02:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: From: "MACSNITKOFF" To: "Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L" Lets look at the code in the core: 0> ADD #100, #4 1> ADD #100, #4 2> MOV 0, @-2 3> SPL @-2 4> JMP -4 First after 0 and 1 execute, their b-fields are each changed to 104. The 2 executes and moves itself to what the b-field of 0 points to which is 0+104 or 104. Next comes 3, its splits to what 1 points to, which is 1+104 or 105. Now in the most likely case, there is nothing at 105 so that process will terminate when its turn comes up. That continues spaced 100 in core, each time, the spl missing the mov. So the spl is spliting, its just nothing it under it to execute after it has done so. Others have already pointed out better code segments for doing this. -Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:38:04 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA31786 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:38:00 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V4WQ105507 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:32:26 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA04940; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:32:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:32:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9lcx6.3738$Eg1.752193@wagner.videotron.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: thida@videotron.ca Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "pvk" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Ransom Smith wrote in message news:slrn9caac8.i3.ransom@localhost.localdomain... > On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:13:28 GMT, MACSNITKOFF wrote: > >Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could > >someone help/flame me? > > > > Say, another thing: > > Be comfortable and happy here! > We love our newbies! > Gosh, I remember when I was like that, with the appearance of a constant > expectation of flame or misstepping or some newbies-bane like that. > I wonder how many of us were NOT like that at some point... Well, i hadn't been traumatized yet when i entered r.g.cw 8) From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:39:26 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA05861 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:39:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V3W4104694 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:32:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04467; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:32:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 22:32:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I'm not going for programs that have a chance, yet. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell to do Redcode. Let me tell you, after 2 years of C++ this is very strange. Writing code that moves around and kills RAM isn't what you are supposed to do. It just seems, err, unnatural! But hell is it fun! Snitty From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:42:49 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA08456 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:42:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1VM102962 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:31:22 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03290; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:13:28 GMT, MACSNITKOFF wrote: >Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could >someone help/flame me? > Say, another thing: Be comfortable and happy here! We love our newbies! Gosh, I remember when I was like that, with the appearance of a constant expectation of flame or misstepping or some newbies-bane like that. I wonder how many of us were NOT like that at some point... Welcome, infinitely so! -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:42:52 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA08719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:42:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1VS102966 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:31:28 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03332; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:13:28 GMT, MACSNITKOFF wrote: >Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could >someone help/flame me? > >;redcode-94 >;name ImpBomb >;author Snitty > > >ADD #100, #4 >ADD #100, #4 >MOV 0, @-2 >SPL @-2 >JMP -4 > Hm. Try this. mov.i #0, @1 add.ab #100, #103 spl @-1, <-4 jmp -3, <-5 If I interpret right, you want imps to appear at intervals of 100 throughout the core. Those imps won't work, really. Let's try this: spl @2, <-5 mov.i 3, @1 add.ab #100, #102 djn.b -3, {-8 mov.i #1, *0 There. It's untested, as yet, but I'll attest to it's cleverity. Remember that the THING is multi-point imp rings. Much cooler. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 15:42:53 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA08890 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:42:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1bh103064 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:37:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03560; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:38:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:38:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103302029.f2UKTlm19139@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Benjamin Ford" wrote: > The problem with that is that Koenigstuhl doesn't reflect the 'real' hills > too well with the top of its open hill dominated by p-spacers and the 94nop > hill dominated by scanners. In both cases, those are the best warriors to > make huge gains against the 'chaff' warriors and at the same time have low > tie rates against each other. I have to disagree that the (recursive) 'Koenigstuhl' ranks are dominated by the scores against weaker warriors. I did some testing with the function that does the weighting of scores from stronger/weaker program and found a very minimal effect. Even if I change it by large amounts the top programs stay on top (some just change their order slightly). I claim: The Top-Koenigstuhl programs are the best programs written, and are a good general benchmark. BUT, you're right that they might not constitute a good test-group for the current hills. But that's because the hills are very small and usually dominated by some kind of warrior. Christoph (http://andromeda.ociw.edu/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html) From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 18:43:08 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA09715 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:43:07 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32Ff8129180 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:41:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01719; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104020400.AAA22307@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 04/02/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/02/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Mar 30 13:56:30 EST 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 37 11 2 Scan Test Tester 27 14 3 Her Majesty P.Kline 22 74 4 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 22 55 5 Foo John Metcalf 22 9 6 Friction Ken Espiritu 18 27 7 QuiVa John Metcalf 16 148 8 fclear Brian Haskin 16 39 9 Dracula's Cape Ben Ford 16 33 10 Parasite 1.3 Stefan Foerster 6 1 11 Disaster Area 2.15 Stefan Foerster 3 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 18:43:13 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA09752 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:43:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32FfD129191 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:41:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01743; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104020400.AAA22311@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 04/02/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/02/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Mar 30 16:11:41 EST 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 71/ 21/ 8 Hold still a minute...Tha Dave Hillis 222 1 2 34/ 22/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 145 9 3 42/ 42/ 16 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 142 37 4 39/ 37/ 24 Black Moods Ian Oversby 141 73 5 35/ 32/ 33 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 137 77 6 31/ 33/ 35 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 130 6 7 36/ 44/ 20 Aster v0 Dave Hillis 129 5 8 15/ 4/ 80 Black Box v1.1 JKW 126 40 9 28/ 31/ 41 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 126 16 10 24/ 26/ 51 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 122 17 11 31/ 41/ 27 Ogre Christian Schmidt 121 25 12 17/ 12/ 71 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 121 146 13 32/ 44/ 23 Pagan John K W 121 131 14 24/ 34/ 41 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 114 3 15 16/ 20/ 65 Denial David Moore 111 18 16 14/ 16/ 70 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 111 94 17 20/ 29/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 111 99 18 21/ 32/ 46 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 110 4 19 24/ 41/ 35 test CS 107 34 20 16/ 29/ 55 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 102 98 21 0/ 5/ 0 test +1 Dave Hillis 0 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 18:43:46 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA10330 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:43:43 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32Ffi129274 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:41:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01768; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: From: > "Benjamin Ford" wrote: > > The problem with that is that Koenigstuhl doesn't reflect the 'real' hills > > too well with the top of its open hill dominated by p-spacers and the 94nop > > hill dominated by scanners. In both cases, those are the best warriors to > > make huge gains against the 'chaff' warriors and at the same time have low > > tie rates against each other. > > I have to disagree that the (recursive) 'Koenigstuhl' ranks are dominated > by the scores against weaker warriors. > I did some testing with the function that does the weighting of scores > from stronger/weaker program and found a very minimal effect. Even if > I change it by large amounts the top programs stay on top (some just > change their order slightly). > I claim: The Top-Koenigstuhl programs are the best programs written, > and are a good general benchmark. > BUT, you're right that they might not constitute a good test-group for > the current hills. But that's because the hills are very small and > usually dominated by some kind of warrior. I won't disagree that the tops of the recursive hills are very good. And bringing up the weaker warriors probably wasn't the best point for me to make. Its more of an issue of the class of warriors. Like with scanners dominating the top of the 94nop hill. Scanners are helped on the 94nop hill since the scanner verses scanner battle ends with a high percentage of wins. Papers will never dominate that hill since paper verses paper produces a lot of ties and the recursive algorithms will help to bring them down. However, there still are a few warriors taking advantage of the weaker warriors. Fixed uses one of those retro-qscans that benefits from many q^2-warriors all being in the same order. Likewise, the published version of Newt exploits that same fact. Since pretty much noone uses q^2s anymore and certainly would not do it in the popularized published order, they lose some of their strength for where they are ranked for benchmark purposes. And as a benchmark, in general, how much are you going to learn by running one warrior up against Silver Talon 1.2, The Machine, Zooom..., and Boys are Back in Town 1.1? Sure, there are sometimes special cases where people optimize their papers against as many scanners as possible but in general going against that many similar warriors isn't neccessary. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 18:43:48 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA10019 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:43:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32Ffl129280 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:41:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01694; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104020400.AAA22303@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 04/02/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/02/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Wed Mar 14 00:59:01 EST 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 33/ 22/ 45 Freight Train David Moore 145 74 2 33/ 22/ 45 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 144 31 3 32/ 22/ 46 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 142 13 4 31/ 22/ 47 Guardian Ian Oversby 139 73 5 36/ 36/ 28 PacMan David Moore 137 103 6 37/ 39/ 24 Stasis David Moore 136 181 7 25/ 17/ 58 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 133 87 8 38/ 46/ 16 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 131 70 9 27/ 23/ 50 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 131 29 10 38/ 46/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 130 111 11 35/ 42/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 349 12 25/ 20/ 55 Test I Ian Oversby 129 130 13 34/ 39/ 27 Tangle Trap David Moore 128 147 14 25/ 22/ 53 sic Leonardo H. Liporati 128 3 15 30/ 33/ 37 Frog Sticker P.Kline 127 23 16 25/ 22/ 53 Evoltmp 88 John K W 127 124 17 15/ 4/ 81 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 127 2 18 37/ 47/ 16 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 126 399 19 32/ 39/ 28 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 126 14 20 37/ 49/ 15 ig Wayne Sheppard 125 1 21 35/ 51/ 14 Blurstone '88 M. J. Pihlaja 119 68 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 19:25:59 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA03384 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:25:56 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f31FVqh03961 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:31:53 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20901; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 31 Mar 2001 21:42:16 GMT, Ilmari Karonen wrote: >In article , MACSNITKOFF wrote: >>Is there anyway to get a MOV dwarf, 3 command to move everything shown? Or >>would I have to do MOV dwarf, 3 MOV dwarf+1, 4 . . . . > >Nope. One instruction per cycle is the limit, you can't move data any >faster than that. In fact, it's often called "c", as in the symbol for >the speed of light in physics. Your code is a 0.4c bomber, since it >hits two locations in five cycles. > However, If you have a mov command that gets executed more than once, you can have it copy different instructions the whole time. 'Silk' Papers often begin like this: spl @0, #99 mov }-1, >-1 That would ordinarily move only one instruction, but if you have a for 3 spl 1, 0 rof before it, it would move 8 instructions. Some CoreWarrior magazine explains it better. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 19:40:47 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA14100 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:40:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2VMaMK12963 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:36:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA12927; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:34:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:34:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <986073878.984@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , MACSNITKOFF wrote: > >dwarf: ADD #12, #6 > SUB #12, #0 > MOV 3, @-2 > MOV 2, @-2 > JMP -4 > DAT #33, #33 > >Is there anyway to get a MOV dwarf, 3 command to move everything shown? Or >would I have to do MOV dwarf, 3 MOV dwarf+1, 4 . . . . Nope. One instruction per cycle is the limit, you can't move data any faster than that. In fact, it's often called "c", as in the symbol for the speed of light in physics. Your code is a 0.4c bomber, since it hits two locations in five cycles. The speed limit for scanning in 2c, and it's actually possible to modify three instructions in one cycle with "MOV ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:35:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1XGa07611 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:33:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03270; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could someone help/flame me? ;redcode-94 ;name ImpBomb ;author Snitty ADD #100, #4 ADD #100, #4 MOV 0, @-2 SPL @-2 JMP -4 Thanks Snitty From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 20:35:45 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA03181 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:35:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1dfa29363 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:39:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03584; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:38:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:38:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200103302020.PAA24070@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: liporati@brfree.com.br Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Leonardo H. Liporati" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Hills on pizza server down? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: At 29/03/01 13:31:00, you wrote: >Does anybody get replies when sending warriors to the >hills on the pizza server. For about three days they seem >to be dead. > >Anybody else experiencing this? > [...snip...] Yes. I sent an email to Pizza's Administrator. Let's wait. Bye, Leonardo. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 20:35:45 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA04142 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:35:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1XKa15363 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:33:20 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03310; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: thida@videotron.ca Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "pvk" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: MACSNITKOFF wrote in message news:B6EA8BEC.5D4%snitty@mac.com... > Hey, I'm still learning this all, but I can't get my SPL to Split, could > someone help/flame me? > > ;redcode-94 > ;name ImpBomb > ;author Snitty > > > ADD #100, #4 > ADD #100, #4 > MOV 0, @-2 > SPL @-2 > JMP -4 Woah... Ok, well, first thing, let's optimize the thing(peephole optimization, if you want 8): Add #100, #4 Mov 0, @-2 Spl @-2 Jmp -3 Next, well, the warrior won't do anything. The line you are copying is utterly useless, resulting in the death of the process the second cycle the process executes. What you really want is sometihng like: Add #100, 1 Mov imp, 3 Spl @-1 Jmp -3 imp: mov 0, 1 But really, such a program doesn't fare a very good chance, i'd say 8) From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 20:35:47 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA03265 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:35:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f2V1XPa27475 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:33:26 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03353; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 20:31:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3AC518CC.E48B01D1@epix.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: internut@epix.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan McKenzie To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Solution to your Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Here's your code: ADD #100, #4 ADD #100, #4 MOV 0, @-2 SPL @-2 JMP -4 Now I'll pick apart what is happening, It all starts here, where 100 is added to 4 -> ADD #100, #4 ADD #100, #4 This instruction moves itself to a space 104 lines down ---------------------------> MOV 0, @-2 This creates a process and sends it to the copied instruction -------------------------> SPL @-2 JMP -4 104 lines down... Your copied instruction--> MOV 0, @-2 Now when the spl does it's thing the MOV will take the vales of the instruction of another program 2 lines back and move to where it points, meaning a self bombing hazard (i.e. it could bomb itself). Therefore, the bomb never works. Also, the ADD statements add 100 and 4, and it bombs the same spot. If you wanted this, you could omit the adds Here's the corrected version of your program that I made: mov 3, 104 spl 103 ;remember, this instruction is one down from the last jmp -2 mov 0,1 This does what your program does, and the bomb is functional. Brandon From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 21:07:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA17777 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:07:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32I5X114874 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:05:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02799; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104021801.f32I1DZ20801@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Benjamin Ford" wrote: > And as a benchmark, in general, how much are you going to learn by running > one warrior up against Silver Talon 1.2, The Machine, Zooom..., and Boys are > Back in Town 1.1? What about: 'Quicksilver', 'Newt', 'Jade', 'Fixed', 'Recovery' ... ? They are all within the Top-25 too. Christoph From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 21:32:04 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA24204 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:32:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32IU5116679 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:30:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03033; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104021822.f32IMcI21172@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: >"Benjamin Ford" wrote: >> And as a benchmark, in general, how much are you going to learn by running >> one warrior up against Silver Talon 1.2, The Machine, Zooom..., and Boys are >> Back in Town 1.1? birk@andromeda.ociw.edu wrote: > What about: 'Quicksilver', 'Newt', 'Jade', 'Fixed', 'Recovery' ... ? > They are all within the Top-25 too. .. I forgot to answer your question: I think you have a pretty darn good warrior if it is able to beat the top-25 Koenigstuhl :-) Christoph From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 2 23:02:34 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA03419 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:02:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f32K0Z122107 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:00:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA03712; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: modern benchmark Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu > >"Benjamin Ford" wrote: > >> And as a benchmark, in general, how much are you going to learn by >running > >> one warrior up against Silver Talon 1.2, The Machine, Zooom..., and >Boys are > >> Back in Town 1.1? > >birk@andromeda.ociw.edu wrote: > > What about: 'Quicksilver', 'Newt', 'Jade', 'Fixed', 'Recovery' ... ? > > They are all within the Top-25 too. > >.. I forgot to answer your question: I think you have a pretty darn >good warrior if it is able to beat the top-25 Koenigstuhl :-) > >Christoph Yes, if something does well against the top 25 Koen, it will likely do well on the regular hill as well. Just using some of those as benchmarks are silly. Like 'The Question' and 'Forty' are a bit silly with all they have in them since they were designed for a special tournament round rather than as actual hill entries (does say something about Blur style scanners however). But as a benchmark, you end up testing against like 8 blur-style scanners in the top 25 but you don't test your warrior against any HSA or carpet-variant scanners. Depends on what you are trying to use the benchmark for I guess. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 3 11:33:58 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA17550 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:33:58 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f338XuM09561 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:33:57 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA10130; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: crack Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Proudly[1] presenting: Fcrack -- tools to crack -F numbers. - It will solve ALL your problems! - Been LARTed lately? 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Proceed > at your own risk. > From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 4 03:27:15 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA08764 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:27:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f340RDM04452 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:27:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16066; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <986290465.3ac9992188ffe@email.qut.edu.au> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: s.jender@student.qut.edu.au Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: SMJ To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Embarassing problems with listbot MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi Corewarriors, I hate to post this to the list, but I'm having difficulty unsubscribing, and was wondering if anyone could fill me in on exactly what to mail, and to the address of what listbot. I've tried RTFMing, and turned up nothing that worked. :) Apologies again, guys. Any help would be appreciated. - Steve ("It's not just a name, it's a sexual preference.") From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 4 03:28:10 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA16468 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:28:10 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f340S9M02872 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:28:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA16019; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010403145747.24552.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dmalboeuf@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Malboeuf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: First Warrior MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: It's my first warrior and I'm looking for tips on how to improve it etc. Daniel C Malboeuf ;redcode ;name EBOLA strain 2.1 ;version 2.1 ;date 02/04/01 ;author DC Malboeuf ;strategy stun + clear ;strategy Stun every 8th address of the core ;strategy after each pass through memory launch a core clear ;assert CORESIZE==8000 step equ 8 scan equ 32 reset mov a1,b1 ;reset after clear mov a2,b2 jmp begin a1 mov -5, -20 a2 dat $0,$0 gun spl 0 ;stun ptr dat #scan, #scan begin mov gun,@ptr add #step,ptr jmn begin, ptr mov #scan, ptr ;clear b1 mov ptr, -20 sub #1, b1 jmz b1, b2 jmp reset b2 dat $0, $0 end __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 4 04:33:24 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA13894 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:33:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f341XNM07897 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:33:23 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA16600; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Help with optimization Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hey, you may remember me. . . I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf, and I want to optimize the code, and it never gets past the second line with my version of the optimized code, and I can't figure out why, maybe you can help. Optimized: ;redcode-94 ;name DwarfBomb ;author Ben Snitkoff ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf ;assert 1 org main dwarf: ADD #12, 2 SUB #12, 2 MOV bomb, 6 MOV bomb, 6 JMP -4 bomb: DAT #33, #33 main: ADD #800, @1 DAT #0, 8 MOV dwarf, @-1 MOV dwarf+1, @-2 MOV dwarf+2, @-3 MOV dwarf+3, @-4 MOV dwarf+4, @-5 MOV dwarf+5, @-6 SPL <-6 JMP main end Old Code: ;redcode-94 ;name DwarfBomb ;author Ben Snitkoff org main dwarf: ADD #12, 2 SUB #12, 2 MOV bomb, 6 MOV bomb, 6 JMP -4 bomb: DAT #33, #33 main: ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 ADD #800, 7 MOV dwarf, 8 MOV dwarf+1, 8 MOV dwarf+2, 8 MOV dwarf+3, 8 MOV dwarf+4, 8 MOV dwarf+5, 8 SPL @-6 JMP main end Also, can anyone tell me if pspace is a stack or a queue? Thanks! Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 4 05:33:46 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id FAA23176 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:33:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f342Vi111562 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:31:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17140; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACA7E61.EB982027@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: MACSNITKOFF wrote: > > Hey, you may remember me. . . I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf, and I want > to optimize the code, and it never gets past the second line with my version > of the optimized code, and I can't figure out why, maybe you can help. > > Optimized: > ;redcode-94 > ;name DwarfBomb > ;author Ben Snitkoff > ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf > ;assert 1 > > org main > > dwarf: ADD #12, 2 > SUB #12, 2 > MOV bomb, 6 > MOV bomb, 6 > JMP -4 > bomb: DAT #33, #33 > > > main: ADD #800, @1 > DAT #0, 8 > MOV dwarf, @-1 > MOV dwarf+1, @-2 > MOV dwarf+2, @-3 > MOV dwarf+3, @-4 > MOV dwarf+4, @-5 > MOV dwarf+5, @-6 > SPL <-6 > JMP main > > end > It looks like you crash on the second line because your process dies when it executes the "DAT". If you change it to "NOP #0, 8" then you will fall through harmlessly. But then you'll have a useless instruction wasting time in your loop. Better to move the line outside the loop entirely. Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 4 16:36:24 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA14056 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:36:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f34DYN110397 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:34:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22598; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 00:51:41 GMT, MACSNITKOFF wrote: >Hey, you may remember me. . . I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf, and I want >to optimize the code, and it never gets past the second line with my version >of the optimized code, and I can't figure out why, maybe you can help. > > >Optimized: >;redcode-94 >;name DwarfBomb >;author Ben Snitkoff >;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf >;assert 1 > > org main > >dwarf: ADD #12, 2 > SUB #12, 2 > MOV bomb, 6 > MOV bomb, 6 > JMP -4 >bomb: DAT #33, #33 > > >main: ADD #800, @1 > DAT #0, 8 > [snip] The dat would do it. Move it somewhere you're not executing. > > >Also, can anyone tell me if pspace is a stack or a queue? Thanks! > >Ben > > It's random access. You access it through index numbers. A Pspace stack is a meritoriously interesting idea, though. What are the implementation issues for-- P-switchers? -F Scanners? Process-finders? Brainwashers? > > > -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Apr 5 12:33:18 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id MAA00437 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:33:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f359XFM31092 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:33:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA01788; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 05:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9ahaic$soo$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Embarassing problems with listbot X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <986290465.3ac9992188ffe@email.qut.edu.au>, SMJ wrote: > >I hate to post this to the list, but I'm having difficulty unsubscribing, and >was wondering if anyone could fill me in on exactly what to mail, and to the >address of what listbot. I've tried RTFMing, and turned up nothing that worked. Mail `listproc@koth.org', with a message body of `unsubscribe corewar-l'. I think -- it's what I gleaned from http://www.koth.org/newsgroup.html anyway... HTH, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 01:35:16 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA22079 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:35:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f35MX9114247 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:33:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA07002; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Annoying................................................... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: There must be a way to filter this stuff out. . . . Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:30:18 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA09682 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36ES8104408 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:28:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14584; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, MACSNITKOFF wrote: > Optimized: > ;redcode-94 > ;name DwarfBomb > ;author Ben Snitkoff > ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf > ;assert 1 > > org main > > dwarf: ADD #12, 2 > SUB #12, 2 > MOV bomb, 6 > MOV bomb, 6 > JMP -4 > bomb: DAT #33, #33 > > > main: ADD #800, @1 > DAT #0, 8 > MOV dwarf, @-1 > MOV dwarf+1, @-2 > MOV dwarf+2, @-3 > MOV dwarf+3, @-4 > MOV dwarf+4, @-5 > MOV dwarf+5, @-6 > SPL <-6 > JMP main > > end > > Old Code: > ;redcode-94 > ;name DwarfBomb > ;author Ben Snitkoff > > org main > > dwarf: ADD #12, 2 > SUB #12, 2 > MOV bomb, 6 > MOV bomb, 6 > JMP -4 > bomb: DAT #33, #33 > > > main: ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > ADD #800, 7 > MOV dwarf, 8 > MOV dwarf+1, 8 > MOV dwarf+2, 8 > MOV dwarf+3, 8 > MOV dwarf+4, 8 > MOV dwarf+5, 8 > SPL @-6 > JMP main > > end Gee... A lot of code. B) > Also, can anyone tell me if pspace is a stack or a queue? Thanks! Neither a stack nor a queue. It's just a regular memory, with direct non-relative addressing. Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:30:19 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA21527 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:19 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36EUIm20202 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14633; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104041728.f34HS6902116@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: MACSNITKOFF wrote: > Hey, you may remember me. . . I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf > [...] > ;redcode-94 > ;name DwarfBomb > [...] I think this is as close as possible to your original idea. I hope the comments I added explain the changes: ;redcode-94 ;name DwarfBomb (v2) ;author Ben Snitkoff ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf ;assert 1 org main bomb: DAT #33, #33 ; move here from after 'jmp dwarf' (CCB) dwarf: ADD #12, 2 SUB #12, 2 MOV bomb, 6 MOV bomb, 6 JMP dwarf main: ADD #800, $ptr ; changed to '$' from '@' (CCB) ptr: NOP #0, 8 ; changed from DAT (CCB) MOV bomb, >ptr ; changed to '>' from '@' (CCB) MOV bomb+1, >ptr ; changed 'dwarf' to 'bomb' (CCB) MOV bomb+2, >ptr MOV bomb+3, >ptr MOV bomb+4, >ptr MOV bomb+5, >ptr SPL ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36ESJ104416 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:28:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14657; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Experimental Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I've found on standing list of '94 Experimental Hill, that "Hold still a minute... Thanks" by Dave Hillis earned 100% of points fighting against itself. Interesting... I guess it's a small trick with PIN, am I right, Dave? If not, how is it possible? Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:30:18 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA15913 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36EUFm20150 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14608; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: crack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, M Joonas Pihlaja wrote: > > Proudly[1] presenting: > > Fcrack -- tools to crack -F numbers. > > - It will solve ALL your problems! > - Been LARTed lately? Crack your enemies' -F number! > - Make Tons of $$$! Crack your local koth server and threaten > to publish their -F number! Guaranteed to pay up[2]. > > Get your copy today! > > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/cw/ > > Regards, > > Joonas (wearing fireproof overalls) > > [1] Or perhaps not so *proudly*, exactly. More caffeine, > anybody? > > [2] Extortion may be illegal in your part of the world. Proceed > at your own risk. I'd better check my hill... B))) If anybody use it on my hill, you'd better wear something more, Joonas (concrete maybe ;) Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:30:35 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA22400 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36EUXm20413 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14681; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Ransom Smith wrote: > On 31 Mar 2001 21:42:16 GMT, Ilmari Karonen wrote: > >In article , MACSNITKOFF wrote: > >>Is there anyway to get a MOV dwarf, 3 command to move everything shown? Or > >>would I have to do MOV dwarf, 3 MOV dwarf+1, 4 . . . . > > > >Nope. One instruction per cycle is the limit, you can't move data any > >faster than that. In fact, it's often called "c", as in the symbol for > >the speed of light in physics. Your code is a 0.4c bomber, since it > >hits two locations in five cycles. > > > > However, If you have a mov command that gets executed more than once, you > can have it copy different instructions the whole time. 'Silk' Papers often > begin like this: > > spl @0, #99 > mov }-1, >-1 > You can also make an ordinary loop, Snitty. Something like this: dest DAT $0, $100 sour DAT $0, $1 MOV >sour, >dest DJN $-1, #number_of_cells_to_copy MOV #number_of_cells_to_copy, $-1 ... then rest of code. Last MOV is to repair value in DJN instruction after changing it by copying loop. However simple, loops aren't very effective. The code above is the simplest I know. Classic warrior called (as I remember) Gemini works in that way. The most important thing in papers is decrement/incerment addressing, so I think you should think about it, if you want to write this kind of warriors. And here is one of my ideas: MOV #4, $0 MOV <-1, <103 JMN $-1, $-2 JMP @101 Can you understand it, Snitty? :) Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:31:09 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA25757 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:31:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36EV8m20092 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:31:08 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14561; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: First Warrior MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Daniel Malboeuf wrote: > It's my first warrior and I'm looking for tips on how > to improve it etc. > > ;redcode > ;name EBOLA strain 2.1 > ;version 2.1 > ;date 02/04/01 > ;author DC Malboeuf > ;strategy stun + clear > ;strategy Stun every 8th address of the core > ;strategy after each pass through memory launch a > core clear > ;assert CORESIZE==8000 > > step equ 8 > scan equ 32 > > reset mov a1,b1 ;reset after > clear > mov a2,b2 > jmp begin > a1 mov -5, -20 > a2 dat $0,$0 > > gun spl 0 ;stun > ptr dat #scan, #scan > begin mov gun,@ptr > add #step,ptr > jmn begin, ptr > > mov #scan, ptr ;clear > b1 mov ptr, -20 > sub #1, b1 > jmz b1, b2 > jmp reset > b2 dat $0, $0 > > end Not bad. But... Clears usually use decrement instead of SUB #1, b1 (actually modern clears use increment to be sure no imps survive). That would looks like: [...] b1 mov ptr, <-20 jmz b1, b2 [...] That's one instruction less and only 2 instructions in loop, so 150% times faster. To make your warrior more effective against b-field scanners you can make it "quiet" by avoiding non-zero b-fields and using a-field indirect addressing. I.e. stun loop can be done like this: [...] ptr dat #scan, $0 begin mov gun, *ptr add.a #step, ptr jmz.a begin, ptr ; actually I'm not sure if it will work, sorry ;) mov.a #scan, ptr [...] I cannot check the JMN.A instruction now, but general idea is that whole pointering is made by a-field. It works only under extended instruction set, but that's not a problem, most of nowadays hills allows it. Another thing, clear or bomber (like your stunning code) can also work as gate, but I won't write about it here, sorry, I have no more time. Happy coding! Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:36:50 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA20994 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:36:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36Eajm21582 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:36:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14983; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <004101c0bcd9$566d4260$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: arcusinvestment@btinternet.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Arcus Investment" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: .. > > main: ADD #800, @1 > > DAT #0, 8 > > MOV dwarf, @-1 > > MOV dwarf+1, @-2 > > MOV dwarf+2, @-3 > > MOV dwarf+3, @-4 > > MOV dwarf+4, @-5 > > MOV dwarf+5, @-6 > > SPL <-6 > > JMP main > > > > end > > > > It looks like you crash on the second line because your process dies > when it executes the "DAT". If you change it to "NOP #0, 8" then you > will fall through harmlessly. But then you'll have a useless instruction > wasting time in your loop. Better to move the line outside the loop > entirely. You will then hit problem #2, that you are using the wrong addressing modes. You want: ADD #800, 1 ; @ indirects so @1 adds 800 to the JMP main instruction MOV dwarf, >-1 ; both > and @ indirect, but > increments the pointer after each move. Otherwise the whole dwarf gets copied into a single word. SPL -6 ; < indirects and pre-decrements, which will mess up your first MOV instruction [This reminds me of my short-lived attempt to teach myself C; I could write reasonable code, but wasted far too long trying to guess whether to use pointers or pointers to pointers when passing arrays to functions...] Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 17:36:52 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA07524 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:36:50 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36EYj104858 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:34:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA14949; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010404225606.A1181@babcock.masks.net.au> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: curious@ihug.com.au Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Curious Forestweaver To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.1 Status: RO X-Status: On 2001.04.04 11:32 MACSNITKOFF wrote: > I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf, If you'll excuse this slightly off topic comment, this sounds like a great idea for a Olympic demonstration sport. Bryn. -- Dwarf Dwarf Tossing. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 22:31:26 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA18920 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36JTK117827 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:29:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16884; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACE07BE.3686EC75@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Lukasz Adamowski wrote: > > I've found on standing list of '94 Experimental Hill, that "Hold still a > minute... Thanks" by Dave Hillis earned 100% of points fighting against > itself. Interesting... I guess it's a small trick with PIN, am I right, > Dave? If not, how is it possible? > Lukasz No. Or actually yes but... I quess it's easiest to post the warriors. Big I.I.F.S. is a "sleeper" or "mole". It's acts normal, but when it gets the secret code, it switches to spy mode and reports back the starting position for one of the battles on the hill. If you ask it for the first battle, you get the -F number. So it is like fcrack, but only works on hills w/ P-space. (Your hills are very safe from me because they are encrypted in a language I can't crack :-)) The basic idea was described way back in CW30 but I didn't know that when I created these. "Hold still..." and "Aster v0" both got the death sentence yesterday but the warrior with the ;kill commands is stuck in the queue at KotH. I'll post the warriors, with their true constants, after this. I will be away from email for the next week or so, so please be patient. Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 22:31:29 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA03436 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36JVSm24217 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:28 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16906; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACE0960.AAADB4D5@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ;redcode-94x ;name Dying to Know /0 ;dist /240 rnd 0 ;author Dave Hillis ;strategy - Experimenting with P-space ;assert CORESIZE==55440 ;Tells the starting postion for a given ;round in the fixed sequence. ;The number of ties against the sleeper ;(minus the round number) ;is the answer = starting position/240 ; PIN 5339 ; I think these constants are superfluous _RESULT equ #0 _ROUNDS equ #2236 _BOOT equ #2237 _FRIEND equ #2240 _ENEMY equ #2242 _LOSE equ #2256 _WIN equ _LOSE+1 _SANE equ #2245 _TEST equ #2260 notmad equ #3276 ;these are the constants that matter _SLEEP equ #555 S_CODE equ #200 _COUNTER equ # 193 _DIST equ #12; holds the distance from first rnd WRAP equ 110 THE_RND equ #0 ; report the starting position for round 0 first stp S_CODE, _SLEEP ; activate the sleeper thecnt ldp _COUNTER, #0 ;increment a round counter add.ab #1, -1 stp.b -2, _COUNTER ; seq.ab #1, thecnt seq.ab THE_RND +1, thecnt jmp report ;scan till I find the other warrior jmz #0, }first add.a #-1, first ;falls through when it finds something div.a #240, first ; mod.a #240, first stp.ab first, _DIST report ldp _DIST, #0 ; slt.ab # WRAP, $ thecnt slt.b $ -1, $ thecnt doze jmp #0, #0 kill spl #0, #0 mov 1, }1 dat 100, 100 ; ;===================================== ;redcode-94x ;name Dying to Know %0 ;dist %240 rnd 0 ;author Dave Hillis ;strategy - Experimenting with P^3 tables ;assert CORESIZE==55440 ;The number of ties against the sleeper ;(minus the round number) ;is the answer = starting position%240 ; PIN 5339 _RESULT equ #0 _ROUNDS equ #2236 _BOOT equ #2237 _FRIEND equ #2240 _ENEMY equ #2242 _LOSE equ #2256 _WIN equ _LOSE+1 _SANE equ #2245 _TEST equ #2260 notmad equ #3276 _SLEEP equ #555 S_CODE equ #200 _COUNTER equ # 193 _DIST equ #12; holds the distance from first rnd WRAP equ 110 THE_RND equ #0 first stp S_CODE, _SLEEP ; activate the sleeper thecnt ldp _COUNTER, #0 ;increment a round counter add.ab #1, -1 stp.b -2, _COUNTER ; seq.ab #1, thecnt seq.ab THE_RND +1, thecnt jmp report ;scan till I find the other warrior jmz #0, }first add.a #-1, first ;falls through when it finds something ; div.a #240, first mod.a #240, first stp.ab first, _DIST report ldp _DIST, #0 ; slt.ab # WRAP, $ thecnt slt.b $ -1, $ thecnt doze jmp #0, #0 kill spl #0, #0 mov 1, }1 dat 100, 100 ; From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 22:31:37 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA19575 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36JVZm24218 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16926; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACE0A46.66996F4C@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Subject: koth Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:03:25 -0500 From: Hillis To: koth ;redcode-94x verbose ;assert CORESIZE == 55440 ;name Hold still a minute...Thanks ;author Dave Hillis ;kill test + ;strategy - Another abusive warrior ;strategy - updated to catch some of the warriors ;strategy - that boot away quickly. ;for -F 27723 ; ; ORG START _RESULT equ #0 ;P-space cell 0: last round result _STRATEGY equ #21345 ;user-defined off equ 0 ;100 _COUNTER equ # 200 ; doubles as a bombing offset WRAP equ 125 STEP equ 11 ;4 target1 equ target2-1 target2 dat _COUNTER, _COUNTER START thecnt ldp _COUNTER, #0 ;increment a round counter add.b -1, b ; stp.b $ b, _COUNTER slt.ab # WRAP, $ b jmp bomber add.ab # -WRAP, b mov.x @ b, @ b bomber mov.a @ b , $ target1 sub.ab $ target1, $ target1 add.f $ target1, target2 ;Get in a quick shot mov.i -200, * target2 mov.i -200, @ target2 ;== now am I the first warrior or the second? ;== scan till I find something, then attack ; ;switch mov.x $ target1, $ target1 ; I must be the second warrior ; mov.x $ target2, $ target2 ; 3/28/01 adjust boot distance relative to the enemy add.a $ target1, $ tBoot add.ab $ target1, $ tBoot attack mov.i < target2 , } target1 mov.i { target2 , > target1 mov.i } target1, < target2 mov.i > target1, { target2 for 1 mov.i < target2 , } target1 mov.i { target2 , > target1 mov.i } target1, < target2 mov.i > target1, { target2 rof add.i # -STEP,$ target2 add.i # STEP,$ target1 djn.b $ attack, # 13 ;52 ; Now to mop up. ; Boot the scanner to a favorable location relative to the ; enemy. If I lost or tied last round, try a new relative location. ; 1=win, 2=tie, 0=loss res ldp #0, 0 strat ldp _STRATEGY, 0 sne.ab # 1, $ res ; if I won, use same location jmp $ adj change mul.ab # 41, $ strat add.ab # 25442, $ strat stp.b $ strat, _STRATEGY adj add.ba $ strat, $ tBoot add.b $ strat, $ tBoot ;jmp w1 ; ========================================== w1 equ tStart tStart mov tMov , tDist+tCheck+1 spl 2 , {17843 spl 1 , {18326 spl 1 , {13965 mov {tStart , tDist+tSplx+1 , tDist+tMov ; -- I think I got this from Katafutr tStep equ 16134 tTime equ 9241 tGate equ (tWipex-3) tCheck equ (tHit+23) ;tDist equ 9362 tDist equ 0; 100 ;25442 tWipex dat 1 , tClear+5-tGate tSplx spl #tStep+1 , tClear+5-tGate mov.i }tCheck , #0 tPtrx mov tHit-tTime*tStep , *tHit-(tTime-2)*tStep add tInc , tPtrx mov tSplx , *tPtrx mov }tCheck , @tPtrx tHit jmn.a tPtrx , {tCheck tInc spl #3*tStep , <3*tStep tClear mov *tWipex , >tGate mov *tWipex , >tGate djn.f tClear , }tSplx tMov mov -tStep , }-tStep ;for 5 ; dat 0, 0 ;rof b mov.i # target2, > 1 spl.i # 27723 + off, < 24071 + off ; 1 mov.i # 14697 + off, < 21365 + off ; 2 mov.i # 13135 + off, < 26769 + off ; 3 mov.i # 26113 + off, < 9150 + off ; 4 mov.i # 29291 + off, < 36914 + off ; 5 mov.i # 469 + off, < 11357 + off ; 6 mov.i # 20894 + off, < 7136 + off ; 7 mov.i # 50452 + off, < 9306 + off ; 8 mov.i # 45250 + off, < 40755 + off ; 9 mov.i # 30769 + off, < 51580 + off ; 10 mov.i # 17013 + off, < 1817 + off ; 11 mov.i # 29014 + off, < 30467 + off ; 12 mov.i # 52081 + off, < 2076 + off ; 13 mov.i # 12106 + off, < 584 + off ; 14 mov.i # 11941 + off, < 53165 + off ; 15 mov.i # 27499 + off, < 36531 + off ; 16 mov.i # 28170 + off, < 37223 + off ; 17 mov.i # 7661 + off, < 33809 + off ; 18 mov.i # 4766 + off, < 42223 + off ; 19 mov.i # 17315 + off, < 33701 + off ; 20 mov.i # 25455 + off, < 23898 + off ; 21 mov.i # 1439 + off, < 24670 + off ; 22 mov.i # 47464 + off, < 6877 + off ; 23 mov.i # 649 + off, < 28448 + off ; 24 mov.i # 34267 + off, < 44860 + off ; 25 mov.i # 33015 + off, < 50086 + off ; 26 mov.i # 38426 + off, < 33334 + off ; 27 mov.i # 13980 + off, < 20606 + off ; 28 mov.i # 23270 + off, < 5948 + off ; 29 mov.i # 27195 + off, < 14965 + off ; 30 mov.i # 25945 + off, < 33327 + off ; 31 mov.i # 38933 + off, < 40606 + off ; 32 mov.i # 49815 + off, < 10439 + off ; 33 mov.i # 53912 + off, < 41273 + off ; 34 mov.i # 27707 + off, < 12810 + off ; 35 mov.i # 32608 + off, < 15544 + off ; 36 mov.i # 30299 + off, < 24537 + off ; 37 mov.i # 35631 + off, < 27653 + off ; 38 mov.i # 22844 + off, < 18611 + off ; 39 mov.i # 38444 + off, < 25292 + off ; 40 mov.i # 34122 + off, < 9164 + off ; 41 mov.i # 40106 + off, < 55170 + off ; 42 mov.i # 18301 + off, < 28683 + off ; 43 mov.i # 43318 + off, < 21653 + off ; 44 mov.i # 3007 + off, < 11201 + off ; 45 mov.i # 31603 + off, < 8849 + off ; 46 mov.i # 15338 + off, < 21861 + off ; 47 mov.i # 14417 + off, < 48722 + off ; 48 mov.i # 25400 + off, < 13865 + off ; 49 mov.i # 54975 + off, < 10844 + off ; 50 mov.i # 13135 + off, < 44056 + off ; 51 mov.i # 48493 + off, < 8524 + off ; 52 mov.i # 10490 + off, < 16953 + off ; 53 mov.i # 3428 + off, < 27811 + off ; 54 mov.i # 47289 + off, < 29398 + off ; 55 mov.i # 44037 + off, < 35285 + off ; 56 mov.i # 49935 + off, < 37559 + off ; 57 mov.i # 5176 + off, < 18980 + off ; 58 mov.i # 7638 + off, < 13866 + off ; 59 mov.i # 46612 + off, < 49690 + off ; 60 mov.i # 8705 + off, < 39552 + off ; 61 mov.i # 37793 + off, < 17793 + off ; 62 mov.i # 25466 + off, < 19105 + off ; 63 mov.i # 23485 + off, < 514 + off ; 64 mov.i # 49559 + off, < 35416 + off ; 65 mov.i # 41630 + off, < 25237 + off ; 66 mov.i # 17131 + off, < 31224 + off ; 67 mov.i # 8499 + off, < 18464 + off ; 68 mov.i # 2764 + off, < 47850 + off ; 69 mov.i # 37862 + off, < 3343 + off ; 70 mov.i # 48428 + off, < 11113 + off ; 71 mov.i # 48566 + off, < 54809 + off ; 72 mov.i # 12498 + off, < 53184 + off ; 73 mov.i # 8508 + off, < 14819 + off ; 74 mov.i # 44393 + off, < 8221 + off ; 75 mov.i # 53429 + off, < 17267 + off ; 76 mov.i # 17398 + off, < 22020 + off ; 77 mov.i # 314 + off, < 30120 + off ; 78 mov.i # 15757 + off, < 18810 + off ; 79 mov.i # 795 + off, < 6853 + off ; 80 mov.i # 18526 + off, < 9597 + off ; 81 mov.i # 49251 + off, < 7553 + off ; 82 mov.i # 387 + off, < 34049 + off ; 83 mov.i # 34561 + off, < 53034 + off ; 84 mov.i # 35607 + off, < 5804 + off ; 85 mov.i # 43881 + off, < 36890 + off ; 86 mov.i # 54033 + off, < 37269 + off ; 87 mov.i # 39328 + off, < 32422 + off ; 88 mov.i # 9226 + off, < 43519 + off ; 89 mov.i # 11707 + off, < 24338 + off ; 90 mov.i # 11231 + off, < 23498 + off ; 91 mov.i # 27952 + off, < 13096 + off ; 92 mov.i # 51451 + off, < 24398 + off ; 93 mov.i # 8365 + off, < 8422 + off ; 94 mov.i # 29899 + off, < 21802 + off ; 95 mov.i # 36944 + off, < 39224 + off ; 96 mov.i # 52714 + off, < 50677 + off ; 97 mov.i # 5807 + off, < 37392 + off ; 98 mov.i # 15521 + off, < 24488 + off ; 99 mov.i # 45032 + off, < 51938 + off ; 100 mov.i # 40740 + off, < 6629 + off ; 101 mov.i # 52789 + off, < 19075 + off ; 102 mov.i # 25878 + off, < 5756 + off ; 103 mov.i # 7412 + off, < 30190 + off ; 104 mov.i # 13384 + off, < 21312 + off ; 105 mov.i # 36466 + off, < 47786 + off ; 106 mov.i # 28854 + off, < 20929 + off ; 107 mov.i # 55154 + off, < 25579 + off ; 108 mov.i # 36416 + off, < 15363 + off ; 109 mov.i # 43733 + off, < 17880 + off ; 110 mov.i # 4724 + off, < 43506 + off ; 111 mov.i # 54950 + off, < 36615 + off ; 112 mov.i # 42358 + off, < 22313 + off ; 113 mov.i # 54983 + off, < 36018 + off ; 114 mov.i # 34488 + off, < 3557 + off ; 115 mov.i # 25840 + off, < 25026 + off ; 116 mov.i # 15988 + off, < 50647 + off ; 117 mov.i # 51304 + off, < 49743 + off ; 118 mov.i # 43006 + off, < 36191 + off ; 119 mov.i # 37424 + off, < 54904 + off ; 120 mov.i # 36630 + off, < 20129 + off ; 121 mov.i # 35973 + off, < 28775 + off ; 122 mov.i # 50991 + off, < 8512 + off ; 123 mov.i # 35197 + off, < 6297 + off ; 124 mov.i # 26935 + off, < 14171 + off ; 125 From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 6 22:31:41 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA17377 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36JVem24318 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:31:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16946; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACE0873.1D39F847@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Subject: koth Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 08:03:44 -0500 From: Hillis To: koth@koth.org ;redcode-94x ;name Big I.F.F.S. ;kill Big I.F.F. ;(identification friend or foe) ;author Dave Hillis ;strategy - Experimenting with P^3 tables ;strategy - using other people's components ; But this version includes a sleeper. If it gets the ;signal, it goes into a doze while the spy master ;gathers and reports back information about the -F ;number on the hill. ;p-switch idea from John Metcalf ;borrows from Katafutr by Michal Janeczek ;Paul Kline's FireHouse, ;55HSB by Robert Macrae. ;handshake from Bigboy by Robert Macrae. ;denial by david Moore ;assert CORESIZE==55440 PIN 5339 _SLEEP equ #555 S_CODE equ #200 activate ldp _SLEEP, #0 seq.ab S_CODE, activate jmp first, activate ; If enemy identified, p^3 table doze jmp #0, #0 ;here is the handshake from Bigboy by Robert Macrae. _RESULT equ #0 _ROUNDS equ #42236 _BOOT equ #42237 _FRIEND equ #42240 _ENEMY equ #42242 _LOSE equ #42256 _WIN equ _LOSE+1 _SANE equ #12245 _TEST equ #12260 notmad equ #13276 first enemy ldp _ENEMY, #0 jmn think, enemy ; If enemy identified, p^3 table friend ldp _FRIEND, #0 jmz hands, friend ; Handshake if status U/K jmp fixgame, >-8000; or else allot win as appropriate hands ldp _RESULT, #0 sne.b hands, #-1 jmp startup, >-7600; Initialise _SANE on first round sane ldp _SANE, #0 seq.b sane, notmad jmp asylum, >-7800 ; Rebuild P-space if brainwashed. rounds ldp _ROUNDS, #0 add.ba -1, 1 stp #1, _ROUNDS ; increment round counter, sne.b hands, #2 jmp think, >-8200 ; and fight until someone wins. add.b hands, wflag ; Store a Flag for winner and loser wflag stp #1, _LOSE sub.ba hands, rflag ; Won->1, Lost->2 rflag ldp _WIN, #0 ; Read the other flag jmz.b asylum, rflag ; If zero I must have an enemy. stp #1, _FRIEND ; Whoopee! stp #1, _TEST ; Flag the fact that I'm stp #0, _WIN ; identifying future winner stp #0, _LOSE ; clean up dat #0, #0 ; Yes, Anders, I like it too :-) ; First mover loses, sadly. fixgame ldp _TEST, #0 sane2 ldp _SANE, #0 ; Throw in a paranoid sanity check seq.b sane2, notmad jmp asylum jmz winlose, fixgame ; If I've finished testing, do it. round2 ldp _ROUNDS, #0 mod.ab #2, round2 stp #0, _TEST ; Don't need to test again. jmn.b winlose, round2 ; Choose which block... losewin ldp _RESULT, #0 jmz.b 0, losewin ; Wrong winner last round. dat #0, #0 winlose ldp _RESULT, #0 jmn.b 0, winlose ; Winner keeps on winning! dat #0, #0 ; Addicted? Me? asylum stp #1, _ENEMY ; If I've been washed, somebody startup stp notmad, _SANE ; _is_ out to get me! jmp think, >-7600 ; jump to p^3 table ; -- scanner from katafutr vSpace equ 18480 vStep equ 13 vPtr dat vScan , tBoot+3 dat 0 , 0 dat 0 , 0 vAttack mov.ba vPtr , vPtr mov #vPtr-vSpiral , vSpiral add.b vPtr , vSpiral vSpiral mov.x @0 , @0 ; extract spiral increment mov.b @vSpiral , vSpiral vWipe mov vSpl , vPtr , >vPtr jmn.f vWipe , >vPtr add.ba vSpiral , vPtr ; try spiral search jmz.f vMod , *vPtr mov.ab vPtr , vPtr slt vPtr , #vClr+3-vPtr jmn.f vWipe , @vPtr vMod mod #vSpace-10 , vPtr vNext add #vStep , vPtr ; f-scan vScan jmz.f vNext , @vPtr mod #vSpace-10 , vPtr ; confine search space vSelf slt vPtr , #vClr+8-vPtr vGate jmz.f vAttack , vPtr+1 djn vNext , #9 ; count self-scans spl #0 , #0 vSpl spl #0 , #0 mov vClr , <-2 ; reverse-wipe to ;overcome self-stuns mov vClr , >vGate ; forward-wipe to win mov vClr , >vGate djn.f -2 , >vGate vClr dat 0 , 2-vGate for 10 dat 0 , 0 rof ; for 4 dat 0, 0 rof ; -- bomber from katafutr tStep equ 16134 tTime equ 9241 tGate equ (tWipex-3) tCheck equ (tHit+23) tDist equ 9362 tWipex dat 1 , tClear+5-tGate tSplx spl #tStep+1 , tClear+5-tGate mov.i }tCheck , #0 tPtrx mov tHit-tTime*tStep , *tHit-(tTime-2)*tStep add tInc , tPtrx mov tSplx , *tPtrx mov }tCheck , @tPtrx tHit jmn.a tPtrx , {tCheck tInc spl #3*tStep , <3*tStep tClear mov *tWipex , >tGate mov *tWipex , >tGate djn.f tClear , }tSplx tMov mov -tStep , }-tStep ; -- brain PSTATE equ 2031 ;w0 and w3 not used w1 equ tStart w2 equ vStart ;w5 is denial ;w4 is 55HSB for 1 think ldp.a #0 , in ldp.a #PSTATE , table mod.ba *in , table stp.b *table , #PSTATE rof for 0 think nop #0 , in nop #PSTATE , table nop *in , table nop *table , #PSTATE rof ; S L W T ;table jmp first table jmp }0, # 136 ; 0: action 2 : 6 10 1 spl # w2, # 994 ; 1: action 2 : 6 0 4 spl # w4, # 240 ; 2: action 4 : 6 2 0 spl # w5, # 1955 ; 3: action 5 : 5 9 5 spl # w5, # 917 ; 4: action 5 : 7 7 2 spl # w1, # 125 ; 5: action 1 : 8 13 5 spl # w4, # 1906 ; 6: action 4 : 8 2 1 spl # w5, # 1451 ; 7: action 5 : 8 9 11 spl # w1, # 2343 ; 8: action 1 : 3 5 3 spl # w5, # 1437 ; 9: action 5 : 7 9 12 spl # w2, # 990 ; 10: action 2 : 2 10 0 spl # w5, # 1608 ; 11: action 5 : 9 12 3 spl # w5, # 779 ; 12: action 5 : 12 9 14 spl # w1, # 411 ; 13: action 1 : 8 5 6 spl # w5, # 922 ; 14: action 5 : 12 12 7 in spl #w4 , 13 ; must have non-zero b-field in spl #0 , 14 ; the previous cell dat 0 , 15 vStart mov tDist+tSplx+1 , tDist+tMov ; -- ; ----------- denial ---------- w5 equ boot hStep equ 859 hTime equ 23300 hDjn equ 45001 hOff equ 5 hDist equ 30133 hMain spl #5 , 1 ;for 85 ;dat 0,0 ;rof i13 equ 34117 i19 equ 29179 iD1 equ 203 iD2 equ 804 iDist equ 30361 imp1 mov.i #5, i19 imp2 mov.i #i13, *0 impy spl #i19, tPtr ,@tPtr mov >tPtr ,>tPtr jmn.f tWipe ,>tPtr tScan sub.x #-12 ,tPtr ; increment and look sne *tPtr ,@tPtr sub.x *pScan ,@tScan ; increment and look jmn.f tSelf ,@tPtr jmz.f tScan ,*tPtr pScan mov.x @tScan ,@tScan ; swap pointers for attack tSelf slt.b @tScan ,#tEnd+4-tPtr ; self-check djn tWipe ,@tScan ; go to attack djn *pScan ,#13 ; after 13 self-scans bw mov bb, 0, #0 db dat tSpl-tPtr, 1 dat 0, 0 tSpl spl 0, 0 dat 0, 0 bPtr dat 0, #tPtr tEnd dat 0, 0 ; ---------------------------------- From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 7 00:31:58 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA22420 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:31:57 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f36LTq121333 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:29:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17812; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <6oascts4c7ncume1aa5q28khn11o96fr5r@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nrussell@acsu.buffalo.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan F Russell To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Security Information.....................................? . 7585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: copkdp@privacy5.com wrote: >http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/go.shtml?A657156 Does anyone know how much these people are being paid to promote evidence eliminator? Nathan From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 7 06:32:38 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA10891 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:32:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f373Wbm16919 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:32:37 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20173; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: Help with optimization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of > birk@andromeda.ociw.edu > Sent: 6 avril, 2001 10:29 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: Re: Help with optimization > > > MACSNITKOFF wrote: > > Hey, you may remember me. . . I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf > > [...] > > ;redcode-94 > > ;name DwarfBomb > > [...] > > I think this is as close as possible to your original idea. I hope > the comments I added explain the changes: Actually, not quite 8) here's how i'd do it: ;redcode-94 ;name DwarfBomb (v2) ;author Ben Snitkoff ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf ;strategy [PVK] Actually, it's more like a warrior that spawns tons of stones, since the "main" part isnt a dwarf. Anyway... ;assert 1 org main bomb: DAT #12, #-12 ;You could use antoher stepsize...3044, fe. dwarf: ADD bomb, 1 ; move here from after 'jmp dwarf' (CCB) MOV bomb, 6 JMP dwarf ; in most warriors, this would be a djn, but then, ;most warriors also have a spl 0 on the top of the loop... you could still do it, though main: ADD #800-3, $ptr ; changed to '$' from '@' (CCB) [PVK] Changed the step so ;the loop rolls perfectly around the core(the ">" change the value of ptr's b-field too) MOV bomb, >ptr ; changed to '>' from '@' (CCB) MOV bomb+1, >ptr ; changed 'dwarf' to 'bomb' (CCB) MOV bomb+2, >ptr MOV bomb+3, >ptr SPL ;redcode-94 > ;name DwarfBomb (v2) > ;author Ben Snitkoff > ;stategy Dwarf throwing dwarf > ;assert 1 > > org main > > bomb: DAT #33, #33 ; move here from after 'jmp dwarf' (CCB) > dwarf: ADD #12, 2 > SUB #12, 2 > MOV bomb, 6 > MOV bomb, 6 > JMP dwarf > > > main: ADD #800, $ptr ; changed to '$' from '@' (CCB) > ptr: NOP #0, 8 ; changed from DAT (CCB) > MOV bomb, >ptr ; changed to '>' from '@' (CCB) > MOV bomb+1, >ptr ; changed 'dwarf' to 'bomb' (CCB) > MOV bomb+2, >ptr > MOV bomb+3, >ptr > MOV bomb+4, >ptr > MOV bomb+5, >ptr > SPL JMP main > > end > > Christoph _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 7 06:32:49 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA23109 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:32:49 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f373Uh126867 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:30:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20203; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Help with optimization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Curious Forestweaver wrote: > On 2001.04.04 11:32 MACSNITKOFF wrote: > > I now have a dwarf throwing dwarf, > > If you'll excuse this slightly off topic comment, this sounds like > a great idea for a Olympic demonstration sport. > > Bryn. > -- Dwarf Dwarf Tossing. :)))))))) [rolling on the floor] YES! That's the funniest thing I heard for a week! :)))))))) Lukasz PS I wonder how far can be dwarf throwen? :) From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 7 06:32:52 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA13604 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:32:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f373Wpm17116 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:32:51 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20229; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Lukasz > Adamowski > Sent: 6 avril, 2001 10:29 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: Re: Sad newbie attempt at an Imp Bomb [snip] > And here is one of my ideas: > > MOV #4, $0 > MOV <-1, <103 > JMN $-1, $-2 > JMP @101 > > Can you understand it, Snitty? IIRC, it's Smitty 8) Anyway, it's pretty cute! It could probably be used in the lp hill... ::thinks:: [Insert maniacal laugh] 8) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 7 06:39:01 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA25285 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:39:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f373as126960 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:36:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA20374; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: From: Lukasz Adamowski >I've found on standing list of '94 Experimental Hill, that "Hold still a >minute... Thanks" by Dave Hillis earned 100% of points fighting against >itself. Interesting... I guess it's a small trick with PIN, am I right, >Dave? If not, how is it possible? > Lukasz >From the startegy lines, I'd assume its one of those F-number warriors. As such, its designed so that whichever warrior is first on the command line (ie whichever warrior is located at 0 in core) wins all the time. And with 200 length for warriors, its possible to store the F-numbers for every round by using the a and b fields. Or it could be using handshaking which is described in an issue of Core Warrior. Basically uses p-space to run a MAXCYCLES-100 wait on the first round. If it surives the wait, it assumes that its a self-fight and sets up to have one warrior win every subsequent round, otherwise switches off into normal mode. No PIN tricks needed. -Ben _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 8 00:22:25 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA05579 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:22:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f37LKG115578 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:20:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28298; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <002601c0bf2f$2b6e7040$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > I've found on standing list of '94 Experimental Hill, that "Hold still a > minute... Thanks" by Dave Hillis earned 100% of points fighting against > itself. Interesting... I guess it's a small trick with PIN, am I right, > Dave? If not, how is it possible? An old trick of mine AFAIK -- see BigBoy from NSFCWT. You can clean up the code massively using a modern P-switcher, but I've never developed a new main warrior to match. As the constants in "Dying to know" look kind of familiar, I suspect the original code lives on 8-) I felt terribly guilty about using this in a competition, and I still think self-fights should not really be allowed. At best they are a waste of processing, and at worst they reward fixers rather than honest warriors. Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 8 02:35:05 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA09899 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:35:05 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f37NZ4m12176 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:35:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29149; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ACF9451.D92EE92A@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Constants etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, there i'm trying to make a paper that throws stun bombs. It was poorly against the Wilkies and Wilmoos Warriors..But then i've played with the contants, and surpising me, it fight some % more wins against the two groups of Warriors. It was not so good to send it to the Hill, but nice. Now my question: How can i know that the Warrior is good, but the constants are bad. Is there a easy way to test the same Warrior with different constants. I know that there are Programms that calculate some constants for me, but how can i test them in a Warrior without cut'n'copy hundred of Warriors. Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 8 05:59:52 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id FAA11396 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 05:59:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f382xpm16909 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 05:59:51 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00847; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: Constants etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Sascha > Zapf > Sent: 7 avril, 2001 19:33 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: Constants etc. > > > Hi, there > > i'm trying to make a paper that throws stun bombs. > > It was poorly against the Wilkies and Wilmoos Warriors..But then i've > played with the contants, and surpising me, it fight some % more wins > against the two groups of Warriors. It was not so good to send it to the > Hill, but nice. > > Now my question: How can i know that the Warrior is good, but the > constants are bad. Is there a easy way to test the same Warrior with > different constants. I know that there are Programms that calculate some > constants for me, but how can i test them in a Warrior without > cut'n'copy hundred of Warriors. Well, if you only want tp see if the warrior is any good, just send it here, and we'll try to help you. Now, to simply try evry constant possible(which IS a good approach 8), you'd want some a-life program...Like, an evolutionnary, like someone tried in the last tourney, iirc. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 8 18:38:04 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA26325 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:38:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f38Fc3m22893 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:38:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06675; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9aps6f$kih$1@uranium.btinternet.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "tmp" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Or it could be using handshaking which is described in an issue of Core > Warrior. Basically uses p-space to run a MAXCYCLES-100 wait on the > round. If it surives the wait, it assumes that its a self-fight and > to have one warrior win every subsequent round, otherwise switches off > normal mode. No PIN tricks needed. Bigboy suicided very quickly on the first round, and if it won the first round it assumed it was facing a copy of itself to which it should lose. Of course, both variants are vulnerable to exploitation 8-) Robert From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 8 19:36:46 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA28758 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:36:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f38Gajm26521 for ; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:36:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07086; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: From: "tmp" > > Or it could be using handshaking which is described in an issue of > Core > > Warrior. Basically uses p-space to run a MAXCYCLES-100 wait on the > > round. If it surives the wait, it assumes that its a self-fight and > > to have one warrior win every subsequent round, otherwise switches > off > > normal mode. No PIN tricks needed. > > Bigboy suicided very quickly on the first round, and if it won the > first > round it assumed it was facing a copy of itself to which it should > lose. > > Of course, both variants are vulnerable to exploitation 8-) > > Robert Yeah, but that method loses the first two rounds against something not trying to handshake. This method, presented in CW68, only loses the first round and non-handshakers. Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 9 07:08:16 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id HAA25253 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:08:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3948Fm01621 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:08:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11327; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104090400.AAA13088@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 04/09/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/09/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Apr 8 20:03:59 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 34/ 19/ 47 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 149 38 2 41/ 39/ 20 Behemot Michal Janeczek 143 272 3 30/ 18/ 52 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 142 449 4 41/ 41/ 18 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 141 406 5 33/ 26/ 42 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 140 211 6 32/ 24/ 44 Olivia Ben Ford 140 177 7 40/ 42/ 18 Jinx Christian Schmidt 138 412 8 23/ 9/ 68 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 137 149 9 34/ 32/ 33 Blacken Ian Oversby 136 696 10 40/ 44/ 16 G2-b David Moore 135 235 11 30/ 27/ 43 Uninvited John Metcalf 134 131 12 41/ 48/ 11 Kenshin Steve Gunnell 134 39 13 34/ 35/ 31 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 133 150 14 31/ 29/ 41 Velvet Fist Ayan Chakrabarti 132 21 15 28/ 24/ 48 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 132 42 16 28/ 26/ 46 Jade Ben Ford 130 518 17 28/ 29/ 43 Yesterday's Scream a P.Kline 126 1 18 37/ 49/ 14 Toofan Ayan Chakrabarti 126 67 19 29/ 47/ 24 rTest P.Kline 110 2 20 18/ 43/ 39 Disaster Area 3.2 Stefan Foerster 94 18 21 2/ 2/ 2 Yesterday's Scream P.Kline 6 4 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 9 07:08:30 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id HAA05376 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:08:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3946K116190 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:06:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11358; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104090400.AAA13076@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 04/09/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/09/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Wed Mar 14 00:59:01 EST 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 33/ 22/ 45 Freight Train David Moore 145 74 2 33/ 22/ 45 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 144 31 3 32/ 22/ 46 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 142 13 4 31/ 22/ 47 Guardian Ian Oversby 139 73 5 36/ 36/ 28 PacMan David Moore 137 103 6 37/ 39/ 24 Stasis David Moore 136 181 7 25/ 17/ 58 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 133 87 8 38/ 46/ 16 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 131 70 9 27/ 23/ 50 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 131 29 10 38/ 46/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 130 111 11 35/ 42/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 349 12 25/ 20/ 55 Test I Ian Oversby 129 130 13 34/ 39/ 27 Tangle Trap David Moore 128 147 14 25/ 22/ 53 sic Leonardo H. Liporati 128 3 15 30/ 33/ 37 Frog Sticker P.Kline 127 23 16 25/ 22/ 53 Evoltmp 88 John K W 127 124 17 15/ 4/ 81 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 127 2 18 37/ 47/ 16 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 126 399 19 32/ 39/ 28 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 126 14 20 37/ 49/ 15 ig Wayne Sheppard 125 1 21 35/ 51/ 14 Blurstone '88 M. J. Pihlaja 119 68 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 9 07:08:33 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id HAA07134 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:08:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3946N116194 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:06:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11382; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104090400.AAA13084@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 04/09/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/09/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Apr 8 20:13:43 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 70/ 22/ 8 Hold still a minute...Tha Dave Hillis 219 2 2 36/ 21/ 43 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 151 10 3 42/ 34/ 24 Black Moods Ian Oversby 149 74 4 44/ 40/ 16 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 148 38 5 36/ 31/ 33 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 140 78 6 32/ 28/ 41 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 135 17 7 28/ 21/ 51 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 135 18 8 35/ 38/ 27 Ogre Christian Schmidt 133 26 9 18/ 4/ 77 Black Box v1.1 JKW 132 41 10 21/ 10/ 70 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 132 147 11 30/ 32/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 128 7 12 28/ 31/ 42 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 125 4 13 20/ 15/ 65 Denial David Moore 125 19 14 25/ 25/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 124 100 15 33/ 43/ 23 Pagan John K W 124 132 16 25/ 28/ 47 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 123 5 17 16/ 12/ 72 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 121 95 18 28/ 37/ 35 test CS 118 35 19 20/ 25/ 55 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 115 99 20 9/ 83/ 8 Disabuse Dave Hillis 35 1 21 4/ 1/ 0 Aster v0 Dave Hillis 11 6 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 9 20:33:49 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA25426 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:33:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f39HXlm22462 for ; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:33:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17518; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9asob3$aso$1@taliesin.netcom.net.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: david@np2p.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "david" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Powerful X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: http://www.nopay2play.com -- powerful entertainment! 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Dave From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 00:37:29 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA20907 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:37:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3ALZG112685 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:35:16 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29531; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AD3734C.EB20E238@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Pizza Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, i've just Submitted my first Warrior to the Pizza's Beginner's Hill... I want only a test, so my Redcode-Line looks like ;redcode-94b test But i'm in the Holding Pen with 35 other Warriors.. Where can i see when the next Challenge is.. Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 02:31:43 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA19147 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:31:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3ANTU115717 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:29:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00407; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: snitty@mac.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: MACSNITKOFF To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Submitting to Servers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hmm, on second thought that subject sounds kinda kinky. . . Anyway, I was wondering how you go about sending a warrior to a server, so it can one day get it's ass kicked in a battle? Thanks Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 08:33:04 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id IAA15211 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:33:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3B5Uo123890 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:30:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA03188; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <986965069.700546@bau2.a-city.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: foerster@a-city.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_F=F6rster?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Pizza MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi Sascha, at the moment the pizza hills are VERY SLOOOW. They were down for about two weeks. Since Monday one gets replies again, but the holding pen is long. One of my warriors I had sent in two weeks ago was processed yesterday. The challenge usually takes place within hours. But at the moment - nobody knows. Wait and see... Tschüß, Stefan. -- Stefan Foerster http://home.a-city.de/stefan.foerster Quote of the Day: In sports, those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Mark H. McCormack, On Communicating (p. 31) (created at stardate [-30]6465.9825, Wed Apr 11 06:42:59 2001) "Sascha Zapf" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3AD3734C.EB20E238@netcologne.de... > Hi all, > > i've just Submitted my first Warrior to the Pizza's Beginner's Hill... > I want only a test, so my Redcode-Line looks like > > ;redcode-94b test > > But i'm in the Holding Pen with 35 other Warriors.. > > Where can i see when the next Challenge is.. > > Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 09:33:13 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id JAA26285 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:33:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3B6XBm18253 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:33:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA03662; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <986965618.521192@bau2.a-city.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: foerster@a-city.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_F=F6rster?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Submitting to Servers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi Ben, just go to the corresponding web sites and read the manual, since every site has different hills and demands a little bit different syntax. Some hints: Hills (with ICWS94 standard) on koth.org: Send to koth@koth.org with no subject First line of your warrior: ;redcode-94nop -> No Pspace Hill ;redcode-94x -> Experimental Hill ;redcode-94m -> Multiwarrior Hill ;redcode-94xm -> Experimental Multiwarrior Hill Add "verbose" to the redcode line to get info every time a battle is fought (even if the other warrior gets pushed off the hill immediately.) Your warrior has to include a assert line to assert that it can run under the conditions of specific hills, like ;assert (MAXLENGTH>=100) && (CORESIZE>=8000) or simply ;assert 1 Hills on Pizza (ICWS 94) www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pizza/koth : Send to pizza@ecst.csuchico.edu with "koth" as subject ;redcode-b -> beginner hill ;redcode-94 -> normal hill with pspace ;redcode-94x -> experimental (tiny) hill You can add "test" to the redcode line to be entered into the test challenge only so you get "as-if results" only. I hope this helps, Stefan. -- Stefan Foerster http://home.a-city.de/stefan.foerster Quote of the Day: In sports, those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Mark H. McCormack, On Communicating (p. 31) (created at stardate [-30]6465.9825, Wed Apr 11 06:42:59 2001) "MACSNITKOFF" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:B6F90863.6AE%snitty@mac.com... > Hmm, on second thought that subject sounds kinda kinky. . . > > Anyway, I was wondering how you go about sending a warrior to a server, so > it can one day get it's ass kicked in a battle? > > Thanks > > Ben > From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 12:33:53 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id MAA01174 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:33:53 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3B9Xqm10056 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:33:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA06236; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9b158e$h3a$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Submitting to Servers X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , MACSNITKOFF wrote: > >Anyway, I was wondering how you go about sending a warrior to a server, so >it can one day get it's ass kicked in a battle? http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/submit.html However, Pizza ( pizza@ecst.csuchico.edu ) is currently suffering problems, so you probably won't get any responses of it for a while :-( HTH, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 11 21:04:38 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA27767 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:04:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3BI2N107536 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:02:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09547; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Pizza MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: Sometimes pizza gets stuck. Email the guy who maintains the site (the email is on the page) and ask him to restart it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sascha Zapf" To: "Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L" Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: Pizza > Hi all, > > i've just Submitted my first Warrior to the Pizza's Beginner's Hill... > I want only a test, so my Redcode-Line looks like > > ;redcode-94b test > > But i'm in the Holding Pen with 35 other Warriors.. > > Where can i see when the next Challenge is.. > > Sascha > From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 16 23:35:03 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA11216 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:35:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GKWe119876 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:32:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA02253; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 16:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ADB45F7.A88BD9D6@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Q^3 and q^4 Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, i have understood what the difference between Quick and Q^2 Scanner... But what are Q^3 or Q^4 Scanners...Faster then Q^2 means that the scanniong Parts ar slower, or? Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 17 00:41:12 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA17067 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:41:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GLcn121986 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:38:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02688; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <01041618162404.00745@bh-59-226> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: liporati@brfree.com.br Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Leonardo H. Liporati" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q^3 and q^4 Scanner Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Status: RO X-Status: Em seg, 16 abr 2001, Sascha Zapf escreveu: > Hi, > > i have understood what the difference between Quick and Q^2 Scanner... > > But what are Q^3 or Q^4 Scanners...Faster then Q^2 means that the > scanniong Parts ar slower, or? > > Sascha Hi Sascha, a question similar to yours appeared in this newsgroup last month. You can read my response, reproduced in Mr. Pihlaja Corewar page, at: http://www.cs.Helsinki.FI/u/jpihlaja/cw/qscaninfo.txt Or you can read the entire thread at DejaNews (now Google Groups): http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&group=rec.games.corewar&safe=off&ic=1&th=ba802fecaabf0952&seekd=917040417#917040417 NOTICE: The above URL maybe wrapped. Regards, Leonardo. From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 17 01:11:30 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA05156 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GM97122793 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:09:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03009; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104160400.AAA01392@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 04/16/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/16/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Apr 13 12:20:21 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 36/ 20/ 44 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 153 42 2 43/ 39/ 18 Behemot Michal Janeczek 147 276 3 36/ 27/ 38 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 145 215 4 32/ 21/ 47 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 144 453 5 42/ 41/ 17 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 143 410 6 34/ 26/ 40 Olivia Ben Ford 143 181 7 36/ 32/ 32 Blacken Ian Oversby 140 700 8 25/ 12/ 63 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 137 153 9 33/ 28/ 39 Uninvited John Metcalf 137 135 10 40/ 45/ 15 G2-b David Moore 135 239 11 40/ 46/ 13 Toofan Ayan Chakrabarti 134 71 12 30/ 25/ 45 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 134 46 13 39/ 44/ 16 Jinx Christian Schmidt 134 416 14 35/ 35/ 30 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 134 154 15 30/ 28/ 42 Jade Ben Ford 133 522 16 31/ 31/ 37 Velvet Fist Ayan Chakrabarti 131 25 17 31/ 30/ 39 Yesterday's Scream a P.Kline 131 5 18 40/ 50/ 10 Kenshin Steve Gunnell 130 43 19 32/ 45/ 23 rTest P.Kline 118 6 20 35/ 53/ 12 atest P.Kline 116 1 21 34/ 53/ 13 Necessary Evil Anton Marsden 116 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 17 01:11:34 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA21436 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GM9C122801 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:09:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA03036; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104160400.AAA01384@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 04/16/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/16/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Mon Apr 9 15:27:16 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 47 148 2 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 28 11 3 Her Majesty P.Kline 28 74 4 Dracula's Cape Ben Ford 26 33 5 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 23 55 6 Foo John Metcalf 22 9 7 fclear Brian Haskin 20 39 8 Scan Test Tester 19 14 9 Friction Ken Espiritu 13 27 10 Parasite 1.3 Stefan Foerster 5 1 11 Tom & Jerry 1.0 Stefan Foerster 0 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 17 01:11:30 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA31782 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GMBTm26660 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02984; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104160400.AAA01388@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 04/16/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/16/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Mon Apr 9 18:49:22 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 69/ 23/ 8 Hold still a minute...Tha Dave Hillis 215 2 2 39/ 20/ 42 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 158 10 3 44/ 32/ 24 Black Moods Ian Oversby 156 74 4 45/ 39/ 16 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 152 38 5 38/ 30/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 145 78 6 31/ 18/ 50 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 145 18 7 34/ 26/ 39 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 143 17 8 39/ 35/ 26 Ogre Christian Schmidt 142 26 9 22/ 4/ 73 Black Box v1.1 JKW 140 41 10 25/ 11/ 65 Denial David Moore 139 19 11 24/ 9/ 67 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 139 147 12 33/ 31/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 135 7 13 27/ 22/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 133 100 14 20/ 9/ 71 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 132 95 15 36/ 41/ 22 Pagan John K W 131 132 16 30/ 36/ 34 test CS 125 35 17 28/ 31/ 42 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 125 4 18 24/ 23/ 54 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 124 99 19 25/ 28/ 47 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 122 5 20 8/ 83/ 9 Disabuse Dave Hillis 32 1 21 6/ 86/ 8 5-imp bdonlan 26 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 17 01:11:30 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA13897 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3GMBTm26609 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:11:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02959; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104160400.AAA01380@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 04/16/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/16/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sun Apr 15 18:19:05 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 31/ 20/ 49 Freight Train David Moore 142 74 2 30/ 20/ 49 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 141 31 3 30/ 20/ 50 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 139 13 4 38/ 37/ 25 Stasis David Moore 139 181 5 28/ 21/ 51 Guardian Ian Oversby 136 73 6 40/ 44/ 17 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 136 70 7 34/ 35/ 31 PacMan David Moore 134 103 8 38/ 44/ 18 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 132 111 9 36/ 41/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 131 349 10 33/ 37/ 30 Tangle Trap David Moore 130 147 11 22/ 16/ 62 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 128 87 12 37/ 46/ 17 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 128 399 13 29/ 30/ 41 Frog Sticker P.Kline 128 23 14 37/ 47/ 16 ig Wayne Sheppard 128 1 15 25/ 22/ 54 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 127 29 16 32/ 38/ 30 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 126 14 17 22/ 19/ 59 Test I Ian Oversby 126 130 18 23/ 21/ 56 Evoltmp 88 John K W 126 124 19 23/ 20/ 57 sic Leonardo H. Liporati 125 3 20 13/ 3/ 84 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 123 2 21 2/ 25/ 72 Replic 2.2 Eike Preuss 79 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 18 04:35:36 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA29122 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:34:59 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3I1WF100828 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 04:32:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA15416; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ADCDB22.2E1389D@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Experimental Hill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Robert Macrae wrote: > > > I've found on standing list of '94 Experimental Hill, that "Hold still a > > minute... Thanks" by Dave Hillis earned 100% of points fighting against > > itself. Interesting... I guess it's a small trick with PIN, am I right, > > Dave? If not, how is it possible? > > An old trick of mine AFAIK -- see BigBoy from NSFCWT. You can clean up the > code massively using a modern P-switcher, but I've never developed a new > main warrior to match. As the constants in "Dying to know" look kind of > familiar, I suspect the original code lives on 8-) Yes. A useful and instructive piece of code. Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Apr 19 05:31:56 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id FAA01223 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:31:55 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3J2TT128418 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:29:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26378; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <10esdtgfl6cpklhq9u745ek6h9esog6crj@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: wrb@wrbuckley.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "William R. Buckley" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Level of activity. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: A To CoreWar Gamers Everywhere: The volume of postings to this newsgroup is just as low as I had expected at the time that I passed control of the ICWS to Mark Durham in 1992 (or, was it 1993?). With no central organisation to promote the game, CoreWar has lapsed into obscurity. Perhaps the time is now for a resurrection! So, this is the announcement of the formation of a new CoreWar authority, CoreWar International. You can find more information by regular reading of this site, or by sending a Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE) to: CoreWar International PO Box 292728 Phelan CA 92329-2728 From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Apr 19 23:36:48 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA30297 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:36:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3JKahv32656 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:36:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04751; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <8JGD6.34$3n.2374@news.itd.umich.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jklewis@myke.itd.umich.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "John K. Lewis" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Level of activity. X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: William R. Buckley wrote: > To CoreWar Gamers Everywhere: > The volume of postings to this newsgroup is just as low as I > had expected at the time that I passed control of the ICWS > to Mark Durham in 1992 (or, was it 1993?). With no central > organisation to promote the game, CoreWar has lapsed into > obscurity. Perhaps the time is now for a resurrection! > So, this is the announcement of the formation of a new > CoreWar authority, CoreWar International. You can find > more information by regular reading of this site, or by > sending a Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE) > to: > CoreWar International > PO Box 292728 > Phelan CA 92329-2728 Let me be the first to say, Welcome Back. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 20 03:35:01 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA32294 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:35:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3K0Z0v17792 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:35:00 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA06325; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Level of activity. X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:02:17 -0700, William R. Buckley wrote: >To CoreWar Gamers Everywhere: > >The volume of postings to this newsgroup is just as low as I >had expected at the time that I passed control of the ICWS >to Mark Durham in 1992 (or, was it 1993?). With no central >organisation to promote the game, CoreWar has lapsed into >obscurity. Perhaps the time is now for a resurrection! > CoreWar players of the world, unite! >So, this is the announcement of the formation of a new >CoreWar authority, CoreWar International. You can find >more information by regular reading of this site, or by >sending a Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope (SASE) >to: > >CoreWar International >PO Box 292728 >Phelan CA 92329-2728 > Would you mean this newsgroup? Or was there a url that I missed? Also, was the volume much higher before you transferred control? That would be a sight. I seem to have arrived after this happened. Say, does this mean that we'll have an official standards body, to make pMARS the official simulator of an actual organization? Diversity has its merits, but unity is definitely cool. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 20 17:57:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA28104 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:57:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3KDOm104529 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:24:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12783; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 09:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104191843.f3JIhig07742@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Koenigstuhl News X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Congratulations to John Metcalf! 'Uninvited' has entered the 94nop-Koenigstuhl at rank-2. (http://andromeda.ociw.edu/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html) Christoph From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 02:35:07 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA12238 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:35:06 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3MNWXn08716 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:32:34 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA14045; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE35091.91FBE5D1@epix.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: internut@epix.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan McKenzie To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Level of activity. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Finally! I may have arrived after the ICWS, but it sounded like good times when it was around!!! Brandon From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 15:43:16 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA29561 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NCehn27728 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:40:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20573; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104230400.AAA23641@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 04/23/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/23/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Tue Apr 17 15:00:19 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 38/ 20/ 42 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 157 11 2 44/ 32/ 24 Black Moods Ian Oversby 156 75 3 45/ 39/ 16 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 152 39 4 38/ 31/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 145 79 5 31/ 18/ 51 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 144 19 6 34/ 26/ 39 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 142 18 7 38/ 36/ 26 Ogre Christian Schmidt 140 27 8 22/ 4/ 74 Black Box v1.1 JKW 139 42 9 25/ 11/ 65 Denial David Moore 139 20 10 24/ 9/ 67 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 139 148 11 28/ 22/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 133 101 12 36/ 42/ 22 Pagan John K W 129 133 13 19/ 9/ 72 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 129 96 14 28/ 31/ 41 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 126 5 15 24/ 23/ 54 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 125 100 16 30/ 36/ 34 test CS 124 36 17 25/ 28/ 47 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 123 6 18 28/ 33/ 39 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 123 8 19 9/ 81/ 11 Disabuse Dave Hillis 37 2 20 9/ 81/ 11 Disabuse 2 Dave Hillis 37 1 21 4/ 1/ 0 Hold still a minute...Tha Dave Hillis 11 3 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 15:43:35 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA00331 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NCein27736 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:40:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20547; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104230400.AAA23646@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 04/23/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/23/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Apr 20 11:38:28 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 36/ 19/ 45 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 153 65 2 43/ 39/ 19 Behemot Michal Janeczek 147 299 3 36/ 26/ 38 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 147 238 4 35/ 24/ 41 Olivia Ben Ford 145 204 5 34/ 27/ 39 Uninvited John Metcalf 141 158 6 42/ 43/ 15 Jinx Christian Schmidt 141 439 7 40/ 41/ 18 Test Test 139 1 8 41/ 43/ 16 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 138 433 9 41/ 44/ 15 G2-b David Moore 138 262 10 32/ 26/ 43 Jade Ben Ford 137 545 11 30/ 23/ 46 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 137 476 12 23/ 10/ 67 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 137 176 13 35/ 34/ 31 Blacken Ian Oversby 137 723 14 35/ 35/ 30 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 135 177 15 28/ 25/ 47 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 132 69 16 40/ 50/ 9 Kenshin Steve Gunnell 130 66 17 37/ 46/ 16 btest P.Kline 128 7 18 37/ 51/ 12 Toofan Ayan Chakrabarti 123 94 19 27/ 32/ 40 Yesterday's Scream a P.Kline 123 28 20 28/ 34/ 38 Velvet Fist Ayan Chakrabarti 122 48 21 29/ 58/ 13 atest P.Kline 100 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 15:43:36 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA00073 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NChYT23386 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:43:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20522; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104230400.AAA23635@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 04/23/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/23/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Mon Apr 9 15:27:16 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 47 148 2 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 28 11 3 Her Majesty P.Kline 28 74 4 Dracula's Cape Ben Ford 26 33 5 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 23 55 6 Foo John Metcalf 22 9 7 fclear Brian Haskin 20 39 8 Scan Test Tester 19 14 9 Friction Ken Espiritu 13 27 10 Parasite 1.3 Stefan Foerster 5 1 11 Tom & Jerry 1.0 Stefan Foerster 0 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 22:32:09 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA29491 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:32:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NJW8T09835 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:32:08 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23190; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: wetpanda@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "phil" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: what is this? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website to sign up on to play? From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 22:32:19 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA30962 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:32:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NJWDT07581 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:32:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23209; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE46E40.9B265F0F@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: mOpt vs. corestep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, I'm trying to learn something about corestep and mOpt and effects of better Constants. OK. I'm working on a Stone which throws two bombs to different positions.. The important instruktions are like mov.i datb,*datb mov.i datb,@datb add.a #A_Inkr,datb add.ab #B_Inkr,datb ... ... ... ... datb dat #4000,#0 OK...The hole Warrios has Spaces for the Bombs, so i can Mod4-bombing. When i ask corestep for constants with corestep 8000 -m 4 -cc -l 4000 -b 10 It reports 3004 and 3364 as the best. Now i think mOpt is better because i can Input two Inkrements and the Offsets. So i use mOpt with Coresize 8000 Target Size 30 inkrement generator #1 : a=4,a<8000,a=a+4 ;for the A_Inkr offset : 0 inkrement generator #2 : b=4,b<8000,b=b+4 ;for the B_Inkr offset : 4000 Now my Questions. 1) Are the params for mOpt right.? 2) Are the results of corestep good enough or do i better wait for the mOpt result.? 3) Works mOpt like i think and use both? Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 23 23:34:11 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA04931 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:34:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NKVan01699 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:31:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23673; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3ae47e83@news.starhub.net.sg> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ts1@its.com.sg Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ts1@its.com.sg To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: * mail server not work on NT through cable modem X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I had tried many mail server, on my Windows NT or Windows 2000 server, my server connect through cable modem which assigned by DHCP server an IP address, my computer installed windows 2000, and I had tried Rockliffe Mailsite, Imail, etc , mail server. my computer is connect through cable modem to internet, ISP use DHCP server to assign an IP address on my computer but got same problem, when I use my own configed mail server to send mail, all message will go to holding, and system event viewer show, no response from any DNS server when searching for domain..." but I got no problem to send and receive email which domain configed under my own DNS(on my NT server). any help will be much appreciated. thanks ts From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 00:32:27 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA09939 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:32:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NLWQT25503 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:32:26 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24109; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <988056406.4556@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , phil wrote: >I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website >to sign up on to play? There's a webring at http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring , but unfortunately it's currently missing one of the most important Core War sites of all, http://www.koth.org . I'd better send another request to join to the CW sites not yet in the webring. I understand if someone really doesn't want to join, but I've received no response from either koth.org or pizza, and I'm wondering if my e-mails have simply vanished somewhere. In any case, a webring that doesn't include the central sites is pretty pointless. :-( -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ Join the Core War Imp Ring: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 02:32:49 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA18638 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:32:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NNUFn07385 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:30:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24943; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: thida@videotron.ca Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "pvk" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: mOpt vs. corestep X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Sascha Zapf wrote in message news:3AE46E40.9B265F0F@netcologne.de... > Hi, > > I'm trying to learn something about corestep and mOpt and effects of > better Constants. > > OK. > > I'm working on a Stone which throws two bombs to different positions.. > The important instruktions are like > > > mov.i datb,*datb > mov.i datb,@datb > add.a #A_Inkr,datb > add.ab #B_Inkr,datb > ... > ... > ... > ... > datb dat #4000,#0 [snip] Well, first, the warrior isn't really optimized 8) A real 100% same functionality way of doing it would be like: Mov.i Datb, *Datb Mov.i Datb, @Datb Add.f Incr, Datb [...] datb dat.f [x], [y] incr dat.f [step1], [step2] Oh, and i really suck with mopt,. so don't ask 8) Anyway, the "best" mod-4 step, mathematically, is usually considered to be 3044 and (8000-3044) (functionally, they work just as well 8). From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 02:32:51 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA18650 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:32:51 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NNUIn07391 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:30:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24924; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:37:03 GMT, phil wrote: >I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website >to sign up on to play? Two people write programs, see? Maybe more, but start with two. Run both programs at the same time. Watch carefully, and see which one kicks the other one's butt. TA-DAAA! Corewar. :-) -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 02:32:53 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA18308 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:32:53 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3NNUKn07397 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:30:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24970; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: mOpt vs. corestep X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:02:40 +0200, Sascha Zapf wrote: >Hi, > >I'm trying to learn something about corestep and mOpt and effects of >better Constants. > >OK. > >I'm working on a Stone which throws two bombs to different positions.. >The important instruktions are like > > > mov.i datb,*datb > mov.i datb,@datb > add.a #A_Inkr,datb > add.ab #B_Inkr,datb > ... > ... > ... > ... >datb dat #4000,#0 > Yes, your real question has merit. But I like to comment here better. You can save 1 cycle (which is VERY cool) here by integrating your two ADDs, and adding a DAT. It'll look like this: mov.i datb,*datb mov.i datb,@datb add.f incr,datb ... ... ... ... datb dat #4000,#0 incr dat #A_Inkr,#B_Inkr Isn't that just the coolest? Anyway, in a situation like this, I think I'd use mopt. Don't remember exactly the advantages and such, as it's been a while since I've used it. But anyway, that last cycle can work wonders for performance. Your original model was <.5c. This new way is <.66c. You can make it even more deadly with a little decrement-tweaking. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 05:33:33 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id FAA28234 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:33:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3O2Uwn10509 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:30:59 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26409; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE4D122.FF8CF6C3@epix.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: internut@epix.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan McKenzie To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: phil wrote: > I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website > to sign up on to play? Okay, here's how this works: 1: No sign-ups. All you is read tutorials to learn the ropes and then get started. 2: What you do is write a program that competes in a simulated arena with one or more programs. 3: Keep practicing, you can discover new tactics that can really give you and advantage. 4: Use all of your resources! This is very important! Brandon From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 11:35:19 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA26996 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:35:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3O8Wfn11003 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:32:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA00882; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE52C82.E10B9B11@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Nathan McKenzie schrieb: > > phil wrote: > > > I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website > > to sign up on to play? > > Okay, here's how this works: > > 1: No sign-ups. All you is read tutorials to learn the ropes and then get > started. > > 2: What you do is write a program that competes in a simulated arena with one > or more programs. If it were so simple! > > 3: Keep practicing, you can discover new tactics that can really give you and > advantage. > > 4: Use all of your resources! This is very important! > Yes, the lecture of CoreWarrior 1 to 79 was an 20 Hour trip into CoreWar > Brandon From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 11:36:31 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA09866 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:36:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3O8aQ025674 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:36:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA00906; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE52C11.B2BFC70@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: mOpt vs. corestep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Ransom Smith schrieb: > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:02:40 +0200, Sascha Zapf wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm trying to learn something about corestep and mOpt and effects of > >better Constants. > > > >OK. > > > >I'm working on a Stone which throws two bombs to different positions.. > >The important instruktions are like > > > > > > mov.i datb,*datb > > mov.i datb,@datb > > add.a #A_Inkr,datb > > add.ab #B_Inkr,datb > > ... > > ... > > ... > > ... > >datb dat #4000,#0 > > > > Yes, your real question has merit. But I like to comment here better. > You can save 1 cycle (which is VERY cool) here by integrating your two > ADDs, and adding a DAT. It'll look like this: > > mov.i datb,*datb > mov.i datb,@datb > add.f incr,datb > ... > ... > ... > ... > datb dat #4000,#0 > incr dat #A_Inkr,#B_Inkr > > Isn't that just the coolest? > > Anyway, in a situation like this, I think I'd use mopt. Don't remember > exactly the advantages and such, as it's been a while since I've used it. > > But anyway, that last cycle can work wonders for performance. Your original > model was <.5c. This new way is <.66c. You can make it even more deadly > with a little decrement-tweaking. > > -- Thanx, saving one Instruktion can be the difference between Win or Tie... O.K, In CoreSize 55440 all Modulo from2 up to 12 will work, so it's easy to protect your Stone from Selfbombing. But what's with CoreSize 8000, were only 2,4,5,8 and 10 are factors. Should i count any Bomb i've dropped and stop before the last. Or should i try to find out an Offset/Inkrement-Pair which take the Selfboming to the end of the Round. Is it a Solution to use the Selfbombing for mutating to something like CoreClear. Oh, too much Questions... Sascha > [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] > [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] > I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 16:32:03 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA15602 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:32:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3ODW1032354 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:32:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02570; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <007001c0cc83$e3f2dbe0$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: mOpt vs. corestep MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > I'm trying to learn something about corestep and mOpt and effects of > better Constants. I only know MOpt. > Now i think mOpt is better because i can Input two Inkrements and the > Offsets. .. which is useful, provided this is what you really want... > So i use mOpt with > > Coresize 8000 > Target Size 30 > inkrement generator #1 : a=4,a<8000,a=a+4 ;for the A_Inkr > offset : 0 > inkrement generator #2 : b=4,b<8000,b=b+4 ;for the B_Inkr > offset : 4000 .. but I'm not sure it is. This is a very general search, looking at (8000/4)^2 = 4 million choices, many of which can be eliminated: 1) you probably don't want mod-8 steps, so use a=a+8 to test only 4, 12, 20... 2) MOpt doesn't care about direction, so use a<4000 to only test positive steps. In practice, positive and negative do differ because of their interractions with directional things like imps (and, for scanners, with boot code and decoys) but MOpt doesn't know about these and they are probably best tackled in the debugger (cdb) or in hand-written simulation code. Each of these suggestions can be applied to both a and b, reducing the problem to a friendlier (4000/8)^2. However, most people, most of the time, make much more radical simplifications. When optimising two steps, it is _usual_ to make them equal in magnitude though they are often different sign. This may sound pretty brutal, but for a good choice of step this is always "filling in the gaps" in an efficient way*. The best approach, in my experience, is to pull out some different-looking patterns and watch how they fill core in cdb. > 1) Are the params for mOpt right.? Yes, as far as I remember the syntax, and subject to what you want to achieve. > 2) Are the results of corestep good enough or do i better wait for the > mOpt result.? It is no disgrace to quit MOpt early as after a few thousand runs the best yet will probably be as good as it will ever achieve. Examine both in cdb and see which makes most sense to you. Paul Kline has published some nice stepsize tables you might want to examine; they include some other kinds of interractions, such as those with imps. > 3) Works mOpt like i think and use both? I have never entirely understood MOpt. It is a great place to start... but then roll out cdb and look at the resulting patterns. If you can understand why MOpt prefers some to others it will help you to make a good choice. Good luck! Robert Macrae * Questions of optimality left to resident mathematicians 8-) From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 16:32:20 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA07138 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:32:19 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3ODTin18920 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:29:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA02595; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <006f01c0cc83$e3afb860$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website > to sign up on to play? Take a look at www.koth.org; it has links to everything you need. You don't have to sign up, you just get a copy of PMARS and start hacking 8-) Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 18:14:53 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA28200 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:14:53 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3OFCIn28339 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:12:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03502; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: what is this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Sascha Zapf wrote: > > Nathan McKenzie schrieb: > > > > phil wrote: > > > > > I was curious what this game is that you all play and if there is a website > > > to sign up on to play? > > > 4: Use all of your resources! This is very important! > > > Yes, the lecture of CoreWarrior 1 to 79 was an 20 Hour trip into CoreWar Hey! You don't have to read this! I've read only two or three last CoreWarriors, and the most I've learnt about CoreWars was from pMARS documentation (redcode.ref file especially). Strategies? Well... You will have to learn about some basics, but it isn't very hard. Knowledge comes with time. Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 18:15:10 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA02876 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:15:10 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3OFCZn28376 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:12:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA03478; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: mOpt vs. corestep MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I don't know both m0pt and corestep. Where can I find them? Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 20:33:13 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA21824 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:33:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3OHUan07791 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:30:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04597; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE5AA17.5F6C9D66@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Just an idea... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Here is what i thougt about, I think Benchmarks like Wilkies or Wilmoo are very important, but for work out general strategies they wouldn't help too much. Last day if have looked in Planars Warriors Archive. The Warriors are sorted by Strategy. What about an Benchmark with 200 Hundred Warriors, in all categories. 25-50 Scanner 25-50 Stones .. .. .. When i'm thinking about and anti-scan strategy, then i can choose all Scanners to fight again. So i will see the improvement of me Warrios since the last change. Or i can run against all Warriors, and the Results are listed like this. Testfighter V1.7 - Benchmark =================================================== Category W% /L% /T% --------------------------------------------------- B-Scanner ( 20 Warrior(s) ) 17%/23%/%60 Q^2-Scanner ( 17 Warrior(s) ) 10%/12%/%78 .. .. Imp-Spirals ( 3 Warrior(s) ) 98%/01%/%01 --------------------------------------------------- O.k, not all Warriors in the archive have strategy-Lines, but quite enough i think. What do you think about this? Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 22:45:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA05066 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:45:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3OJh5n15028 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:43:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05549; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104241835.f3OIZWM00047@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: birk@andromeda.ociw.edu To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: new Koenigstuhl address X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: The 'Koenigstuhl' moved to http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html Christoph From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Apr 24 22:53:15 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA05651 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:53:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3OJrC005273 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:53:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA05633; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Just an idea... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: And what about multi-strategy warriors, i.e. paper->stun->clear or paper/clear? It's hard to classify them, I think. Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 25 04:36:47 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA27365 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:36:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3P1ak030325 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:36:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA08417; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <867cet00ck541o0rda61650o948dbfm66n@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ragmanx@mailandnews.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Randy Graham To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Just an idea... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:30:15 +0200, Sascha Zapf wrote: >Here is what i thougt about, > >I think Benchmarks like Wilkies or Wilmoo are very important, but for >work out general strategies they wouldn't help too much. They are geared towards getting a warrior on the hills. You are correct that they aren't good for testing out specific strategies. >Last day if have looked in Planars Warriors Archive. The Warriors are >sorted by Strategy. Love Planar. Best site outside of koth. >What about an Benchmark with 200 Hundred Warriors, in all categories. > >25-50 Scanner >25-50 Stones >... >... >... > > >When i'm thinking about and anti-scan strategy, then i can choose all >Scanners to fight again. So i will see the improvement of me Warrios >since the last change. Good idea to see if you strategy is working against warriors you expect it to work against. Not quite as useful for seeing if you have a shot at getting on the hills. >Or i can run against all Warriors, and the Results are listed like this. > >Testfighter V1.7 - Benchmark >=================================================== >Category W% /L% /T% >--------------------------------------------------- >B-Scanner ( 20 Warrior(s) ) 17%/23%/%60 >Q^2-Scanner ( 17 Warrior(s) ) 10%/12%/%78 >... >... >Imp-Spirals ( 3 Warrior(s) ) 98%/01%/%01 >--------------------------------------------------- Hmmmm, not that would be nice. >O.k, not all Warriors in the archive have strategy-Lines, but quite >enough i think. > >What do you think about this? Sounds great. I just wish I had enough time to play instead of just watching the group. Most of you probably don't even know me, but I used to be actice and write some good stuff. I miss corewar. >Sascha RagManX From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Apr 25 05:37:10 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id FAA01373 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 05:37:10 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3P2b9032732 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 05:37:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09067; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE62E2A.F774B170@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Just an idea... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Randy Graham wrote: .. > ... I just wish I had enough time to play instead of just > watching the group. Most of you probably don't even know me, but I > used to be actice and write some good stuff. I miss corewar. > If I had a dime for every time "Porch Swing" creamed one of my warriors I would be a rich man. Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Apr 26 01:34:17 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id BAA27179 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:34:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3PMVdn27719 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:31:39 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19119; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <11ieetcao003v1rjf3avelndc7cba5gptl@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ragmanx@mailandnews.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Randy Graham To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Just an idea... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:53:46 -0400, Hillis wrote: > > >Randy Graham wrote: >... > > >> ... I just wish I had enough time to play instead of just >> watching the group. Most of you probably don't even know me, but I >> used to be actice and write some good stuff. I miss corewar. >> > If I had a dime for every time "Porch Swing" creamed one of my warriors >I would be a rich man. Can't believe anyone still knows or uses Porch Swing. He got pushed off the hills so long ago. Easiest way to beat him is to use a decoy with at least 1000 core cells spacing. Also, backwards scanning/bombing warriors can whip him. I will admit, however, that it was a real thrill when he broke on to the hill with a 172 score. Highest I had ever seen up to that point (I think Robert Macrae (sp?) beat that out after Porch Swing had fallen, though). >Dave Hillis RagManX From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Apr 26 15:44:29 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA26846 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:44:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3QCfpn26476 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:41:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26659; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fordbc@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Benjamin Ford" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Just an idea... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: From: "Randy Graham" > On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:53:46 -0400, Hillis wrote: > > If I had a dime for every time "Porch Swing" creamed one of my warriors > >I would be a rich man. > Can't believe anyone still knows or uses Porch Swing. He got pushed > off the hills so long ago. Easiest way to beat him is to use a decoy > with at least 1000 core cells spacing. Also, backwards > scanning/bombing warriors can whip him. > > I will admit, however, that it was a real thrill when he broke on to > the hill with a 172 score. Highest I had ever seen up to that point > (I think Robert Macrae (sp?) beat that out after Porch Swing had > fallen, though). I think Porch Swing still sees some because its in the Wilkie benchmark. Even though that benchmark is horribly out of date, many newbies could download it and use it to rate their warriors. -Ben From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 27 00:33:05 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA02379 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:33:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3QLURn27346 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:30:27 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA00839; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010426161203.09498.00001092@ng-mk1.aol.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ianoversby@aol.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ianoversby@aol.com (IanOversby) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Vain X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: The idea for Vain was simply to implement an imp-gate in Gigolo which had been a very successful imp/stone. Watching the stone systematically obliterate each square twice while cleverly avoiding itself it seemed to be quite a difficult problem to slot a gate in. Gigolo-style (Rosebud) stone: clr spl #0, -step, step+1 add split, stone cnt djn.f stone, 2) ;strategy Rosebudish Stone, Impfinity Imps ;strategy and a core-clear ;assert CORESIZE==8000 sdist equ (start+3614) dec equ 6944 tr equ 6565 idist equ (start+2214) st equ 1432 ddist equ sdist-1054-2 ist equ 2667 mx equ -7 spin spl.b #pump+tr, >-3000 sub.f #-(ist+1), jump pump mov.i imp, }spin jump jmp.f tr-2*(ist+1), 800 spl.b #0, 0+st, 3-st add.f p, -1 djn.f -2, 1, #10 spl.b #0, #0 mov.i mx, >mx-1 dl djn.f -1, >mx-2 for 5 dat.f 0, 0 rof qf equ qKil qs equ (qd*2) qd equ 107 qi equ 7 qr equ 11 ; -+)>] 0/1 cycles [(<+- start qGo: seq qd+qf+qs, qf+qs ; 1 jmp qSki, {qd+qf+qs+qi seq qd+qf+6*qs, qf+6*qs ; B jmp qFas, {qd+qf+6*qs+qi seq qd+qf+5*qs, qf+5*qs ; B-1 jmp qFas, qBmb seq qd+qf+9*qs, qf+9*qs ; A-1 djn qFas, {qFas seq qd+qf+10*qs, qf+10*qs ; A jmp qFas, {qFas ; -+>)] 2 cycles [(<+- seq qd+qf+3*qs, qf+3*qs ; C jmp >qFas, {qd+qf+3*qs+qi seq qd+qf+2*qs, qf+2*qs ; C-1 jmp >qFas, {qSlo seq qd+qf+4*qs, qf+4*qs ; C+1 jmp >qFas, }qSlo seq qd+qf+12*qs, qf+12*qs ; B*C-B jmp qSlo, {qSlo seq qd+qf+15*qs, qf+15*qs ; B*C-C jmp qSlo, qBmb seq qd+qf+24*qs, qf+24*qs ; B*C+B jmp qSlo, }qSlo seq qd+qf+27*qs, qf+27*qs ; A*C-C djn qSlo, {qFas seq qd+qf+30*qs, qf+30*qs ; A*C jmp qSlo, {qFas sne qd+qf+18*qs, qf+18*qs ; B*C jmz.f pGo, qd+qf+18*qs-10 qSlo:mul.ab #3, qKil ; C=3 qFas:mul.b qBmb, @qSlo qSki:sne >3456, @qKil add #qd, qKil qLoo:mov qBmb, @qKil qKil:mov qBmb, *qs sub #qi, qKil djn qLoo, #qr jmp pGo, >10 ; A=10 qBmb:dat {qi*qr-10, {6 ; B=6 end start From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Apr 27 07:36:21 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id HAA22648 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:36:20 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3R4aK004557 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:36:20 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA04176; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AE8E0EE.5EF61397@erols.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dbhillis@erols.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hillis To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: infinite hills and benchmarks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: How can you use information from an infinite hill to estimate a warrior's chances of getting onto a hill at KotH or PIZZA? I'm interested in this subject because (surprise) it relates to evolving core warriors. Here are a couple of ideas. Koeniqstuhl calculates the subscores of every warrior on the infinite hill against every other warrior (presumably storing them in a table) and then forms a recursive hill where the score of each warrior is based on a weighted sum of its subscores. It might be handy to be able to approximate this recursive score for a new warrior without competing it against all the warriors on the hill. Competing the new warrior against the top 12 warriors on the recursive hill and averaging the scores is unlikely to work :-( But if you set it up as a search problem, find N warriors and N weights such that, for each warrior, the weighted sum of the subscores approximates the recursive scores, it might be fairly easy to do. Now the second idea. Unlike the first, I have coded it up already. I took the top 400 warriors from the recursive 94nop hill at Koeniqstuhl and calculated the relevant subscores (fortunately I only need some of them). Then I let the warriors play an endless game of KOTH against each other with a size 20 virtual hill. (Because the subscores are in a table, simulating the battles takes very little time.) This process is like a GA experiment without the GA. Now I can take a warrior, calculate its hill score for each point in time and plot this score against the lowest score on the virtual hill to get a graphical look at when the warrior would have gotten onto the virtual hill and when it wouldn't have. Or I can take the time average to produce a single number. It's also interesting to vary parameters and see how that can impact the behavior of the virtual hill. Maybe I'll apply for a grant so I can pursue this further ;-) Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 10:32:45 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id KAA10520 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:32:45 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3S7U3n26894 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:30:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA17557; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and F.....k Off with the spam OK. "Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 11:33:26 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA05350 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:33:26 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3S8Ujn28100 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:30:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18243; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9ksketk00kl7vrassv247668lmfoupcj1f@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: orionca@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: OrionCA To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:10:46 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. > > > >"Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... >It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > > >> > > > Here's an even easier way to be a jerk: Change the subject line and start a new thread, then fail to quote any relevant text to show why you think the poster should fuck off with the spam. Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 11:33:27 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA13975 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:33:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3S8Ukn28105 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:30:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18263; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "OrionCA" wrote in message news:9ksketk00kl7vrassv247668lmfoupcj1f@4ax.com... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:10:46 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. > > > >"Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... >It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > > >> > > > Here's an even easier way to be a jerk: Change the subject line and start a new thread, then fail to quote any relevant text to show why you think the poster should fuck off with the spam. Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 11:33:31 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id LAA08702 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:33:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3S8XU012205 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:33:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18289; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) "OrionCA" wrote in message news:9ksketk00kl7vrassv247668lmfoupcj1f@4ax.com... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:10:46 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. > > > >"Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... >It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > > >> > > > Here's an even easier way to be a jerk: Change the subject line and start a new thread, then fail to quote any relevant text to show why you think the poster should fuck off with the spam. Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 17:33:30 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA03831 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:33:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SEUmn05446 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:30:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20381; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kate@mhn.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Katherine To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:43:17 +1000, "JL1" expounded: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) #1 Changing the subject does, for many newsreaders, change the thread. #2 The person you attributed the spam to was NOT the person who posted the spam. Be careful of the attributions. Katherine, Grandmaster Healer Ciaran, Lia Fail Empire (Atlantic) Hosting Dr. Dolittle's Stories From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 18:34:27 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA06351 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:34:23 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SFYM013508 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:34:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20788; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1rjletok6bp47f9hnbpehhu971e3cta8rv@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: IceLady@nowhere.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ice To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:10:46 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. > > > >"Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... >It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > > >> *plonk* From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 20:34:02 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA13385 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:34:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SHY1018214 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:34:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21562; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AEAF722.B0885827@maine.rr.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: elrick@maine.rr.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: The Demogorgon To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: OrionCA wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:10:46 +1000, "JL1" > wrote: > > >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > > > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. > > > > > > > >"Ian" wrote in message news:9ccvbn$kqu$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... > >It is illeagel, its a form of illeagel gambling > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here's an even easier way to be a jerk: Change the subject line and > start a new thread, then fail to quote any relevant text to show why > you think the poster should fuck off with the spam. > > Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e > y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with > asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. > > -- > "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from > 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day > to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit > would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." > - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. Actually, I've always wondered why it was okay to say "shucks" or "fudge" when it wasn't okay to say "shit" or "fuck." Since you're obviously implying the latter with the former, it seemed just as "wrong" to me. I don't really see swearing as wrong at all, though. -- --**<< The Demogorgon, Graymalkin Dragon, Elrick >>**-- From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 20:34:06 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA13213 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:34:05 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SHY4022519 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:34:05 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21582; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <6isletshfb32gn3h5v4b925b1p6m1884a3@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: orionca@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: OrionCA To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:43:17 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) What makes you think a spammer even reads the newsgroups he spams? In most cases they're using a utility to mass-post to newsgroups; the group names are just pulled down from a list of available newsgroups on his news server. Oh, and it's also improper to quote text w/o providing a quotation indicator at the beginning of the line, aka: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) or: |For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. |it was a direct reply to the original |spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. |(there is that cute enough for you) or whatever character you've selected to be your quotation identifier. Otherwise the readers can't easily tell where the quoted text ends and your comments begin. Outlook Express is pretty much a kiddy-newsreader (only kiddies use it) but it DOES add quotation identifiers by default. You must have been fooling around with the settings and messed them up. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 21:34:16 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA18545 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:34:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SIVan10719 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:31:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22007; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AEAFFD9.F20DC97D@maine.rr.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: elrick@maine.rr.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: The Demogorgon To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Man, talk about blowing things out of proportion. This whole thread is like a bunch of pointless flames after another. I can understand not liking spam or anything that resembles spam, but for the love of god, flaming each other about who has the right to complain more is even worse! -- --**<< The Demogorgon, Graymalkin Dragon, Elrick >>**-- From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Apr 28 21:34:18 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA17803 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:34:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3SIVcn10723 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:31:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA22026; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: no@spam.me Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Insane Ranter" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "JL1" wrote in message news:kouG6.13169$482.65668@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original > spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) With simple elegance you have managed to fall flay on your face. Not only have you do this fact for no logical reason but you did it too well. If everyone had you clumsiness it would very hard to believe that man would still be sitting in his cave wondering how to create fire. But alas not all of have your inability at logic and reason. Yet it seems that some matter of defective genetic material still exists in your family line that failed to become extinct whether caused by still human compassion, which you have none, or by some medical breakthrough or just by blind chance. It is your backward thinking that still keeps the rest of the human race from aspiring to the great highest that it could have already obtained some centuries ago. Yet we can only hope that you are incapable of passing on this defect from your line. We can all hope that you are sterile and unable to father/mother children or else some freakish act of nature will cause you to revert to such a state of unable to bear children. Yet if things are as they seem to be.. your kind tend to breed like rabbits and will continue to pollute the genetic stream of the human gene pool. Please do use all a favor and sacrifice yourself for the greater good of humanity by casually strolling in front of a moving train so that it may squash you out of the gene pool. Thank you and good day. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 03:35:05 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA01628 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:35:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T0WNn16374 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:32:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24057; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Re 1. I agree to disagree, nuff said 2. Yes I realise that now....It still doesn't answer the Q of why it made to this forum in the first place. Hey shit happens. "Katherine" wrote in message news:C8nqOo5Vbm1euLMMfnmYZFHmSW0X@4ax.com... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:43:17 +1000, "JL1" expounded: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) #1 Changing the subject does, for many newsreaders, change the thread. #2 The person you attributed the spam to was NOT the person who posted the spam. Be careful of the attributions. Katherine, Grandmaster Healer Ciaran, Lia Fail Empire (Atlantic) Hosting Dr. Dolittle's Stories From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 03:35:12 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA01810 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:35:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T0ZB007444 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 03:35:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24076; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Yes. Very clever. I applaud your outstanding abilities....your wit etc etc...and also the fact you have shown everyone your a sanctimonious prick.....Somehow I expected something better from a Southerner....Must be the polluted air in Dallas that has affected your brain cells. "OrionCA" wrote in message news:6isletshfb32gn3h5v4b925b1p6m1884a3@4ax.com... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:43:17 +1000, "JL1" wrote: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) What makes you think a spammer even reads the newsgroups he spams? In most cases they're using a utility to mass-post to newsgroups; the group names are just pulled down from a list of available newsgroups on his news server. Oh, and it's also improper to quote text w/o providing a quotation indicator at the beginning of the line, aka: >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) or: |For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. |it was a direct reply to the original |spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. |(there is that cute enough for you) or whatever character you've selected to be your quotation identifier. Otherwise the readers can't easily tell where the quoted text ends and your comments begin. Outlook Express is pretty much a kiddy-newsreader (only kiddies use it) but it DOES add quotation identifiers by default. You must have been fooling around with the settings and messed them up. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 04:35:15 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA04094 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T1ZE009375 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24506; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Well said.......and I couldn't agree with you more.....For everyone else who want to put their 2 cents worth in I have now lost interest in the subject, so go your hardest if you wish to I really couldn't care less......thank you. To those who wasted their time reading the damn flames after the original one sent by me I apologize.......Bye now. "The Demogorgon" wrote in message news:3AEAFFD9.F20DC97D@maine.rr.com... Man, talk about blowing things out of proportion. This whole thread is like a bunch of pointless flames after another. I can understand not liking spam or anything that resembles spam, but for the love of god, flaming each other about who has the right to complain more is even worse! -- --**<< The Demogorgon, Graymalkin Dragon, Elrick >>**-- From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 04:35:22 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA27931 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:21 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T1ZL009708 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:21 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24546; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NoSpamHere@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "JL1" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: So where did you cut and paste this passage out of...hmm..... I really don't think you would have the intelligence to think it up all by yourself.........I won't bother about getting into the relative merits of our respective genetic defects, if any....although I must admit I would find it extremely difficult to fall (flay?) on my face...must be that genetic spelling defect in your line..what do you think?...Perhaps your nom-de-plume says it all! This has become rather tedious....How about we all just get back to the bloody forum issues ok.....I was merely venting my spleen and displeasure on the original crossposter of the spam. We have enough of that shit in our lives as it is....... "Insane Ranter" wrote in message news:OTCG6.4051$NH5.251674@news2.atl... "JL1" wrote in message news:kouG6.13169$482.65668@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original > spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) With simple elegance you have managed to fall flay on your face. Not only have you do this fact for no logical reason but you did it too well. If everyone had you clumsiness it would very hard to believe that man would still be sitting in his cave wondering how to create fire. But alas not all of have your inability at logic and reason. Yet it seems that some matter of defective genetic material still exists in your family line that failed to become extinct whether caused by still human compassion, which you have none, or by some medical breakthrough or just by blind chance. It is your backward thinking that still keeps the rest of the human race from aspiring to the great highest that it could have already obtained some centuries ago. Yet we can only hope that you are incapable of passing on this defect from your line. We can all hope that you are sterile and unable to father/mother children or else some freakish act of nature will cause you to revert to such a state of unable to bear children. Yet if things are as they seem to be.. your kind tend to breed like rabbits and will continue to pollute the genetic stream of the human gene pool. Please do use all a favor and sacrifice yourself for the greater good of humanity by casually strolling in front of a moving train so that it may squash you out of the gene pool. Thank you and good day. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 04:35:30 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id EAA02822 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T1ZT009239 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 04:35:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA24526; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: orionca@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: OrionCA To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:00:18 -0400, The Demogorgon wrote: >> Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e >> y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with >> asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. >> >> -- >> "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from >> 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day >> to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit >> would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." >> - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. > >Actually, I've always wondered why it was okay to say "shucks" or "fudge" when it wasn't okay to >say "shit" or "fuck." Since you're obviously implying the latter with the former, it seemed just >as "wrong" to me. I don't really see swearing as wrong at all, though. In the Christian ethic there are no 'points' for sins: You either commit one or you don't. It isn't, "Darn is a 1 pointer and "Damn" is a 5 pointer, the F-word is worth a cool 50!", *ANY* sin unrepented puts you in Hell. This concept bothers people because it means swiping a coke out of the machine w/o paying put you on the same moral level with, say, Jeffrey Dalmer. Well, that's true: Hell doesn't have cheap seats. In a sense euphamisms are worse than the swear words they replace: You're saying, "Look, I know these words are bad and hurtful and spiteful, but by putting a '*' in place of them I'm trying not to get blamed for using them!" Trying to have your cake and eat it, too, as it were. Best thing to do is just use the word that you think appropriate to the occasion and not worry about it too much. On a point system every human being on this planet builds enough of these up by the age of 8 to spring the trapdoor. If there is a God you have to hope He's the infinitely merciful sort. -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 06:35:35 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA07350 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:35:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3T3Wsn17732 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 06:32:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA25397; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: no@spam.me Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Insane Ranter" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "JL1" wrote in message news:yXIG6.13551$482.68923@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > Well said.......and I couldn't agree with you more.....For everyone else who want to put their 2 > cents worth in I have now lost interest in the subject, so go your hardest if you wish to I really > couldn't care less......thank you. > > To those who wasted their time reading the damn flames after the original one sent by me I > apologize.......Bye now. > Hypocrite. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 15:37:49 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA23455 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:37:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TCbl006081 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:37:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA29836; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 08:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3aebfce4@alijku02.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: martinusNo-Spam@lion.cc Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Martin Ankerl" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: You post offtopic messages to rec.games.corewars. Please stop this. Thanks. Martin From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 17:12:45 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA01523 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:12:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TECh011645 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 17:12:43 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA00494; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010428201454.009f99f0@ea-pop.oac.uci.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: tsanth@iname.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Stephen Anthony Uy To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Unsubscribing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Status: RO X-Status: How do I unsubscribe? I've tried to unsubscribe repeatedly, but apparently the listserv doesn't want to let me go. -Steve -- email.(ROT-13)................tsanthNO@SPAMiname.com aim...........................................tsanth homepage.......................http://www.tsanth.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 18:30:52 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id SAA06743 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:30:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TFS9n28812 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:28:09 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01029; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nrussell@acsu.buffalo.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Nathan F Russell To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Unsubscribing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Stephen Anthony Uy wrote: >How do I unsubscribe? I've tried to unsubscribe repeatedly, but apparently >the listserv doesn't want to let me go. > >-Steve Whether you are "subscribed" to a newsgroup is a setting on your client only. You should consult its documentation. Nathan From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 19:30:57 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA05485 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:30:57 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TGSEn00159 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:28:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01426; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9chccv$ki7$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Unsubscribing X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Nathan F Russell wrote: >Stephen Anthony Uy wrote: > >>How do I unsubscribe? I've tried to unsubscribe repeatedly, but apparently >>the listserv doesn't want to let me go. >> >Whether you are "subscribed" to a newsgroup is a setting on your >client only. > >You should consult its documentation. [I can't see the original post here, so I'm guessing, but...] Remember that there is also the corewar-l mailing list mirror of r.g.cw; instructions for this are at http://www.koth.org/newsgroup.html. If you still can't get off the list, mail the admin (Tuc? JKW? Anyone know for sure?) HTH, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 21:31:15 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA16656 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:31:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TISWn03212 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:28:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02190; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ItsFAKE@Not-A-Real-Address.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Bateau To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: JL1: Do you expect me to reply?? Bateau: No Mr JL1, I expect you to die! >Hey Arsehole.... Learn how to spell!! and > >F.....k Off with the spam OK. What's with all the fucking cluebies these days replying to spam? -- | _ \ _ ^~ email:bateau at jupiter-io.net | <')_,/ , ; \ >(')__, . ` ' , ,______________._ | (_~=/ \._`.'. \ (_~_/ _, '------:_______ ;==( *BANG* | ='- \=~_) ; \ ~^~~^~ ` (_~_/ | | `-\ \ *BANG* | ICQ:11367619 -'= \ ~^~~^~ `~' \_; From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Apr 29 21:31:22 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id VAA24664 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:31:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3TISdn03220 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:28:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA02209; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ItsFAKE@Not-A-Real-Address.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Bateau To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: JL1: Do you expect me to reply?? Bateau: No Mr JL1, I expect you to die! >For your information boofhead....no new thread was started.. it was a direct reply to the original >spammer... Get with the program. Oh BTW fuck you to.. (there is that cute enough for you) On usenet, changing the topic IS starting a new thread. That's the way most people configure their newsreaders and it's the most convenient. Go back to your yahoo message boards, kook. -- | _ \ _ ^~ email:bateau at jupiter-io.net | <')_,/ , ; \ >(')__, . ` ' , ,______________._ | (_~=/ \._`.'. \ (_~_/ _, '------:_______ ;==( *BANG* | ='- \=~_) ; \ ~^~~^~ ` (_~_/ | | `-\ \ *BANG* | ICQ:11367619 -'= \ ~^~~^~ `~' \_; From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 08:34:02 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id IAA23076 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:34:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3U5VHn15664 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:31:18 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA06606; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AECF04C.17E1EA23@maine.rr.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: elrick@maine.rr.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: The Demogorgon To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: OrionCA wrote: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:00:18 -0400, The Demogorgon > wrote: > > >> Oh, and if you think you WON'T go to Hell or you don't l**k l**e > >> y**'** s****ing if you cutsy-poo replace the "uc" in "fuck" with > >> asterisks you're quite wrong. False piety is a sin of commission. > >> > >> -- > >> "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from > >> 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day > >> to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit > >> would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." > >> - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. > > > >Actually, I've always wondered why it was okay to say "shucks" or "fudge" when it wasn't okay to > >say "shit" or "fuck." Since you're obviously implying the latter with the former, it seemed just > >as "wrong" to me. I don't really see swearing as wrong at all, though. > > In the Christian ethic there are no 'points' for sins: You either > commit one or you don't. It isn't, "Darn is a 1 pointer and "Damn" is > a 5 pointer, the F-word is worth a cool 50!", *ANY* sin unrepented > puts you in Hell. This concept bothers people because it means > swiping a coke out of the machine w/o paying put you on the same moral > level with, say, Jeffrey Dalmer. Well, that's true: Hell doesn't > have cheap seats. > > In a sense euphamisms are worse than the swear words they replace: > You're saying, "Look, I know these words are bad and hurtful and > spiteful, but by putting a '*' in place of them I'm trying not to get > blamed for using them!" Trying to have your cake and eat it, too, as > it were. > > Best thing to do is just use the word that you think appropriate to > the occasion and not worry about it too much. On a point system every > human being on this planet builds enough of these up by the age of 8 > to spring the trapdoor. If there is a God you have to hope He's the > infinitely merciful sort. > -- > "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from > 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day > to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit > would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." > - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. That was more or less what I was saying. Then again, I don't see how specific words could possibly be worse than others. If you're kidding around and call a friend an asshole in jest in school, you would be chastised, whereas if you called someone an ignorant pig-dog (read: schweinhund) and meant it to hurt, there would be no repercussions. And somehow this is supposed to make sense... -- --**<< The Demogorgon, Graymalkin Dragon, Elrick >>**-- From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 15:40:30 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA20757 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:40:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3UCeT005757 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:40:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10547; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104300400.AAA28974@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 04/30/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/30/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Wed Apr 25 11:23:21 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 31/ 20/ 49 Freight Train David Moore 142 74 2 30/ 20/ 50 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 141 31 3 38/ 37/ 25 Stasis David Moore 139 181 4 29/ 20/ 51 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 139 13 5 40/ 44/ 16 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 137 70 6 28/ 21/ 51 Guardian Ian Oversby 136 73 7 40/ 44/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 111 8 34/ 35/ 31 PacMan David Moore 134 103 9 36/ 40/ 24 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. 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Liporati 125 3 20 13/ 3/ 84 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 123 2 21 2/ 25/ 73 Imp Source Eike Preuss 79 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 15:40:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA13770 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:40:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3UCbnn19064 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:37:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10573; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104300400.AAA28978@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 04/30/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/30/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Apr 28 20:08:47 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 29 149 2 Her Majesty P.Kline 27 75 3 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 25 56 4 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 24 12 5 Scan Test Tester 23 15 6 fclear Brian Haskin 22 40 7 Friction Ken Espiritu 20 28 8 Dracula's Cape Ben Ford 18 34 9 Foo John Metcalf 13 10 10 j0 Stefan Foerster 9 1 11 Double Dwarf James Rand (jrand@cs 0 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 15:40:40 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA18630 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:40:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3UCbvn19076 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:37:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10523; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200104300400.AAA28988@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 04/30/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 04/30/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Apr 28 12:06:40 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 33/ 18/ 49 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 147 79 2 41/ 40/ 18 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 143 447 3 41/ 41/ 18 G2-b David Moore 142 276 4 41/ 40/ 19 Behemot Michal Janeczek 142 313 5 31/ 22/ 47 Olivia Ben Ford 141 218 6 31/ 24/ 45 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 138 252 7 34/ 31/ 35 Blacken Ian Oversby 137 737 8 35/ 34/ 32 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 136 191 9 39/ 43/ 18 Jinx Christian Schmidt 135 453 10 27/ 20/ 53 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 135 490 11 41/ 49/ 10 Kenshin Steve Gunnell 133 80 12 22/ 11/ 67 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 133 190 13 29/ 24/ 47 Uninvited John Metcalf 133 172 14 29/ 25/ 46 Vain Ian Oversby 132 1 15 38/ 46/ 16 ctest P.Kline 131 6 16 28/ 25/ 46 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 131 83 17 27/ 24/ 49 Pulp Ian Oversby 130 4 18 27/ 24/ 50 Jade Ben Ford 129 559 19 28/ 27/ 45 Qtest Christian Schmidt 129 12 20 28/ 32/ 40 Velvet Fist Ayan Chakrabarti 124 62 21 5/ 54/ 41 qpp 1.2 Stefan Foerster 55 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 16:34:51 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA30021 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:34:51 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3UDW8n21705 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:32:08 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA11087; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:37:51 +0200, Martin Ankerl wrote: >You post offtopic messages to rec.games.corewars. Please stop this. Thanks. > >Martin > > Uh... Dude... Your post didn't go to any other of the cross-posted newsgroups. And yes, I was thinking the same thing. But don't. Just leave it, it'll go away quicker. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Apr 30 17:34:56 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id RAA29771 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:34:56 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f3UEWDn23899 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:32:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA11490; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9cjo1f$54r$1@ites.inria.fr> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: Damien.Doligez@inria.fr Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Planar To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: >From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) >Uh... >Dude... >Your post didn't go to any other of the cross-posted newsgroups. >And yes, I was thinking the same thing. >But don't. >Just leave it, it'll go away quicker. I'm canceling all the cross-posted messages. It's a bit cavalier, but I hope it will help stop the thread. -- Planar From corewar-l@koth.org Tue May 1 19:33:41 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA03277 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:33:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f41GXd016828 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:33:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23780; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3af6cb7e.7690413@news.tokyo.att.ne.jp> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jared@intNOSPAMvelt.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: jared@intNOSPAMvelt.com (Jared of Europa) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:00:59 GMT, OrionCA wrote: >>Actually, I've always wondered why it was okay to say "shucks" or "fudge" when it wasn't okay to >>say "shit" or "fuck." Since you're obviously implying the latter with the former, it seemed just >>as "wrong" to me. I don't really see swearing as wrong at all, though. > >In the Christian ethic there are no 'points' for sins: You either >commit one or you don't. It isn't, "Darn is a 1 pointer and "Damn" is >a 5 pointer, the F-word is worth a cool 50!", *ANY* sin unrepented >puts you in Hell. This concept bothers people because it means >swiping a coke out of the machine w/o paying put you on the same moral >level with, say, Jeffrey Dalmer. Well, that's true: Hell doesn't >have cheap seats. I thought hell had different levels for different types of sin. Then again, I'm not an expert (*refers to "hell", not to "sin*) and the seven levels may just be something Dante made up. Saying "Darn" might put you in the cheap seat, ie. stuck inside a coffin for eternity, whereas false preachings may land you head first in the pool of boiling blood, or perhaps stealing will find you on the business end of a pitchfork. Take your pick. -*- Decorators, visit Famous Houses of Britannia: http://fhb.intvelt.com We are not made, for Labour and Trade that Fools on each other impose From corewar-l@koth.org Tue May 1 19:33:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA27959 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:33:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f41GUun01025 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:30:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA23743; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: frostcat@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "PixelCat" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "OrionCA" wrote > Here's an even easier way to be a jerk: Change the subject line and > start a new thread, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Get a real newsreader, one that threads properly, on the References: line. > then fail to quote any relevant text to show why > you think the poster should fuck off with the spam. Hm. I figured he was demonstrating how to be a jerk by flaming. > "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from > 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day > to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit > would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." > - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. ROFLOL. In tech support, we call that TPTLBTKATC. -- So much for a crossbow tank rush. - Jason Kozak From corewar-l@koth.org Tue May 1 20:34:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA08265 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:34:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f41HVkn02967 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:31:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA24269; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3aeedf1e.3322954@news1.on.sympatico.ca> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kruposki@yahoospa.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: kruposki@yahoospa.com (AcK!) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 01 May 2001 15:50:57 GMT, "PixelCat" wrote: >ROFLOL. > >In tech support, we call that TPTLBTKATC. That's a new acronym for me, could you please explain? >So much for a crossbow tank rush. >- Jason Kozak LOL!!!! TTYL .. Life is a series of interrelated delusions. kruposki@yahoospa.com remove "spa" to email From corewar-l@koth.org Tue May 1 22:34:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA16662 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:34:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f41JVkn06651 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:31:46 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25080; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: frostcat@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "PixelCat" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "AcK!" wrote Wow, I haven't seen a post from you in a long time. Where you reading this? > On Tue, 01 May 2001 15:50:57 GMT, "PixelCat" wrote: > >ROFLOL. > >In tech support, we call that TPTLBTKATC. > That's a new acronym for me, could you please explain? The Problem That Lies Between The Keyboard And The Chair. 0 -- So much for a crossbow tank rush. - Jason Kozak From corewar-l@koth.org Tue May 1 22:34:37 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA14179 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:34:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f41JYY031486 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:34:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25100; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: drake@nospam.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Drake" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "PixelCat" wrote in message news:X1DH6.1952$9w6.162442@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net... | "AcK!" wrote | | Wow, I haven't seen a post from you in a long time. Where you reading this? | | > On Tue, 01 May 2001 15:50:57 GMT, "PixelCat" | wrote: | | > >ROFLOL. | | > >In tech support, we call that TPTLBTKATC. | | > That's a new acronym for me, could you please explain? | | The Problem That Lies Between The Keyboard And The Chair. Almost as bad as the ID 10T prob. From corewar-l@koth.org Wed May 2 06:35:48 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id GAA15441 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:35:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f423X1n18513 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:33:01 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28358; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <55uuetsp7rqhkrb51qm3q5iisdci1hk5n6@4ax.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: orionca@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: OrionCA To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 1 May 2001 11:34:57 -0700, "Drake" wrote: >"PixelCat" wrote in message >news:X1DH6.1952$9w6.162442@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net... >| "AcK!" wrote >| >| Wow, I haven't seen a post from you in a long time. Where you reading >this? >| >| > On Tue, 01 May 2001 15:50:57 GMT, "PixelCat" >| wrote: >| >| > >ROFLOL. >| >| > >In tech support, we call that TPTLBTKATC. >| >| > That's a new acronym for me, could you please explain? >| >| The Problem That Lies Between The Keyboard And The Chair. > >Almost as bad as the ID 10T prob. > Detroit Engineer: "Our new Mark VX Towncar is technically perfect except for one critical flaw!" Manager: "What's that?" Detroit Engineer: "That darned nut behind the wheel!" -- "I don't understand it. When I raised the tax from 100% to 200% in Scara Brae revenues went from 107,000/day to -1000. You wouldn't think raising taxes a little bit would impact revenues so much: It must be a bug." - Faction leader, complaining on OSI's forums. From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 3 20:34:33 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA04142 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:34:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f43HVhn07064 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:31:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15477; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3AF18775.3EC0F2C2@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: pMARS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, is there somebody who has Compiled pMARS 0.9.2 from Sourceforge.. I have tried it under Windows95 and Linux but nothing. Can some give me a little How-to or send me the binaries for Linux with X TIA Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 3 20:34:47 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id UAA07771 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:34:47 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f43HVwn07082 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:31:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15496; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: macecil@home.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Polychromic To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 03 May 2001 15:45:32 GMT, "PixelCat" wrote: >"Acid Queen" wrote in message >news:MPG.155a595a38079ec698ae1a@news.alt.net... >> Headers re-set. Copy of your post with full headers sent to your server. >> Do what you want in your little cesspit, but x-posting to a group that >> has politely pointed out you are off topic violates your TOS. > >Explain how asking what Corewars is is OT in r.g.corewar, k? Maybe you have to write your posts in redcode? -- The Polychromic Dragon (Michael Cecil) of the -=={UDIC}==- Dragons For Adventure guild http://members.home.net/macecil/dfa Gaming > http://members.home.net/macecil Tech > http://members.home.net/macecil/howto macecil@home.com From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 3 22:35:13 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA16680 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:35:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f43JWNn12777 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:32:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16321; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: frostcat@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "PixelCat" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Polychromic" wrote in message news:v203fts2tnvv9u3lr658jmpaemudevtiqk@4ax.com... > On Thu, 03 May 2001 15:45:32 GMT, "PixelCat" > wrote: > >"Acid Queen" wrote in message > >news:MPG.155a595a38079ec698ae1a@news.alt.net... > >> Headers re-set. Copy of your post with full headers sent to your server. > >> Do what you want in your little cesspit, but x-posting to a group that > >> has politely pointed out you are off topic violates your TOS. > >Explain how asking what Corewars is is OT in r.g.corewar, k? > Maybe you have to write your posts in redcode? I haven't looked at redcode in years. Can I program in Vax ASM instead? :) -- So much for a crossbow tank rush. - Jason Kozak From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 00:38:06 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA01564 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 00:38:06 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f43LZFn17342 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 00:35:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17119; Thu, 3 May 2001 17:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9csfrn$51v$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <3AF18775.3EC0F2C2@netcologne.de>, Sascha Zapf wrote: > >is there somebody who has Compiled pMARS 0.9.2 from Sourceforge.. I certainly have. >I have tried it under Windows95 and Linux but nothing. I can't believe you got "nothing" -- what (more specifically) was the problem? If the Linux version couldn't find the X libs, have you tried my autoconf patch (also on SourceForge)? >Can some give me a little How-to or send me the binaries for Linux with >X I'll happily send you my binaries, but I doubt they'll be much use to you unless you've got an Alpha running a bizarre mix of Debian stable and unstable! :-) Cheers, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 02:36:06 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id CAA07567 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 02:36:05 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f43NXFn20396 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 02:33:15 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17906; Thu, 3 May 2001 19:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010503143041.2775.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dmalboeuf@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Malboeuf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Ahh stop the insanity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: You people are crazy stop this right now not only is it annoying it's cluttering up my mail box with useless religion non-sense, and to the Roman Catholic religion expert there(Walt or whetever he calls himself)there is no such thing as purgatory Jesus paid for our sins in full when he died on the cross all we have to do is believe in that and we're saved. Now every one calm down I'm going to go make my self a sandwich and when I come back every thing had better of stoped with the whole jerk off thing. Dan "Cheep weed" Malboeuf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 07:37:16 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id HAA15403 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:37:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f444bFI02198 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 07:37:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA19954; Fri, 4 May 2001 00:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Ahh stop the insanity X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 3 May 2001 19:34:35 -0400, Daniel Malboeuf wrote: >You people are crazy stop this right now not only is >it annoying it's cluttering up my mail box with >useless religion non-sense, and to the Roman Catholic >religion expert there(Walt or whetever he calls >himself)there is no such thing as purgatory Jesus paid >for our sins in full when he died on the cross all we >have to do is believe in that and we're saved. Now >every one calm down I'm going to go make my self a >sandwich and when I come back every thing had better >of stoped with the whole jerk off thing. > Careful examination of the headers will reveal that we are but innocent bystanders. Some lout has started a cross-posted flame war, and we're taking fire for it, though I don't expect any of us had anything to do with it. We just got spammed, and everybody who replied to the spam was courteous enough to include us in their wonderful, insightful thought-process. Please don't hastily blame us. We're a cool bunch. Especially me. :-) Stick around, I'm sure we'll come up with something to say about corewar. Corewar? What? Oh, THAT corewar. (In the newsgroup name, even.) Well, Un___Ortant 1.1 is in 8th place on the beginner hill, and I'm not doing too bad, eh? My next project is Yet Another remake of Limb-Rending Incisors. I'm sure you'll all hear when it comes out... -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 12:31:28 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id MAA08642 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:31:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f449VPI01043 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:31:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA23015; Fri, 4 May 2001 05:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 05:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9ctpvr$8ui$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Ahh stop the insanity X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <20010503143041.2775.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com>, Daniel Malboeuf wrote: [snip rant] To be honest, this is precisely what killfiles are for -- I haven't seen any of this stuff at all. This may be trickier if you're reading r.g.cw via the mailing list mirror, and probably even trickier still if you're using Yahoo! for your mail service, but... Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 16:43:52 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA27334 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:43:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f44Df2n19567 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:41:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA24510; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: Ahh stop the insanity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: yahoo has email blocking. and corewar-l is kind enough to put the sender'S real email address and name in the from field 8) > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Philip > Kendall > Sent: 4 mai, 2001 05:30 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: Re: Ahh stop the insanity > > > In article <20010503143041.2775.qmail@web10401.mail.yahoo.com>, > Daniel Malboeuf wrote: > > [snip rant] > > To be honest, this is precisely what killfiles are for -- I haven't seen > any of this stuff at all. This may be trickier if you're reading r.g.cw > via the mailing list mirror, and probably even trickier still if you're > using Yahoo! for your mail service, but... > > Phil > > -- > Philip Kendall > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 4 22:32:46 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA04940 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:32:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f44JTun05089 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:29:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26768; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: Mick@baywatch.demon.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Kiril Threndor To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: How to be a jerk off in one minute...! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <020520011123110230%dovey_atlantic@yahoo.com>, Little WhiteDove writes >Yeah Kiiriil. I might try some of it in a salad for lunch (in hopes >that Italian dressing will cover up some of the stench). > >-Little WhiteDove >Badb Catha, Lia Fail Empire >Atlantic How many souls do I have? Madcat was trying to convince me that I have one on each shard. You conned the Atlantic one out of me and now her and Myrex have been bidding against each other for my Europa one, I shudder to think what they want to do with it. -- ________________________________________________ Kiril Threndor OGD http://ogd.syix.com/ From corewar-l@koth.org Wed May 9 23:57:39 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA16501 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:57:39 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f49KvbE23336 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:57:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18552; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105070400.AAA14883@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 05/07/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/07/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 6 18:06:01 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 35 151 2 fclear Brian Haskin 33 42 3 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 27 58 4 Her Majesty P.Kline 24 77 5 Foo John Metcalf 19 12 6 sp 1.0 Stefan Foerster 19 2 7 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 17 14 8 Friction Ken Espiritu 17 30 9 Scan Test Tester 12 17 10 sp 3.0 Stefan Foerster 8 1 11 Kurara Lukasz Adamowski 8 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed May 9 23:59:15 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA26725 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:59:15 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f49KxEE19749 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:59:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18593; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105070400.AAA14896@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 05/07/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/07/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 6 18:14:18 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 34/ 18/ 47 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 150 84 2 34/ 24/ 42 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 144 257 3 42/ 39/ 19 Behemot Michal Janeczek 144 318 4 33/ 23/ 44 Olivia Ben Ford 143 223 5 41/ 42/ 18 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 139 452 6 31/ 25/ 45 Uninvited John Metcalf 137 177 7 29/ 21/ 50 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 137 495 8 35/ 34/ 30 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 137 196 9 40/ 43/ 17 G2-b David Moore 137 281 10 34/ 32/ 34 Blacken Ian Oversby 136 742 11 22/ 10/ 67 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 134 195 12 39/ 44/ 17 Jinx Christian Schmidt 134 458 13 29/ 27/ 44 Vain Ian Oversby 132 6 14 29/ 25/ 46 Jade Ben Ford 132 564 15 38/ 46/ 16 Phantasm 50 Robert Macrae 130 3 16 28/ 27/ 45 Qtest Christian Schmidt 129 17 17 27/ 26/ 47 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 129 88 18 27/ 27/ 46 Pulp Ian Oversby 128 9 19 38/ 47/ 15 ctest P.Kline 128 11 20 39/ 51/ 11 atest c P.Kline 127 1 21 16/ 53/ 31 Kurara Lukasz Adamowski 78 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 10 00:00:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA20902 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 00:00:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f49Kvin13652 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:57:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA18631; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105070400.AAA14889@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 05/07/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/07/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 6 10:11:28 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 32/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 152 80 2 44/ 39/ 17 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 148 44 3 34/ 22/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 146 16 4 38/ 33/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 143 32 5 27/ 15/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 139 24 6 33/ 30/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 137 13 7 31/ 25/ 44 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 137 23 8 32/ 30/ 38 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 84 9 35/ 42/ 23 Pagan John K W 129 138 10 15/ 7/ 78 Denial David Moore 124 25 11 29/ 34/ 37 test CS 124 41 12 14/ 5/ 81 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 123 101 13 15/ 7/ 78 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 123 153 14 21/ 20/ 59 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 122 106 15 12/ 5/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 119 47 16 16/ 18/ 66 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 113 105 17 22/ 32/ 45 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 112 10 18 20/ 28/ 52 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 111 11 19 19/ 35/ 47 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 103 3 20 20/ 37/ 43 Disaster Area 2.18 Stefan Foerster 103 1 21 19/ 37/ 44 qsimclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 101 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 10 16:35:07 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA14083 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:35:06 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4ADW7n18607 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:32:07 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26950; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B0518F5@MailAndNews.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: Dav32b@MailAndNews.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Dave Badger To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Birthday? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Is it corewar's 18th birthday this month? If so, happy birthday to corewar :-) Does anyone know what the exact date is? I might just celebrate with a little drink down the local. Regards, Dave Badger. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: http://MailAndNews.com Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. ------------------------------------------------------------ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri May 11 03:31:40 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA24584 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 03:31:39 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4B0VdE26201 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 03:31:39 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01746; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: wrb@wrbuckley.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "William R. Buckley" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Birthday? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I am disappointed by the lack of knowledge regarding the history of CoreWar that is implied by Dave Badger's posting. CoreWar was first reported in the May, 1984 issue of Scientific American, though Dr. A. K. Dewdney (professor emeritus of the University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario, Canada) and a student of his developed the game some time earlier. This is one of the consequences which I expected to occur upon the demise of the ICWS. In addition, there were three other articles which mention CoreWar in Scientific American: March, 1985 (wherein you will find the first program which Scientific American ever published in its entirety - which I and a professor of mine from California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, California, USA), January, 1987, and I leave the other for you to discover. William R. Buckley Director Emeritus, International Core Wars Society On Thu, 10 May 2001 08:24:47 -0400, Dave Badger wrote: >Is it corewar's 18th birthday this month? >If so, happy birthday to corewar :-) > >Does anyone know what the exact date is? >I might just celebrate with a little drink down the local. > >Regards, >Dave Badger. > >------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE web-based e-mail and newsgroup access at: > http://MailAndNews.com > > Create a new mailbox, or access your existing IMAP4 or > POP3 mailbox from anywhere with just a web browser. >------------------------------------------------------------ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 14 15:16:04 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA21286 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4ECG3E00909 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06832; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105140400.AAA04060@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 05/14/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/14/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 13 19:57:36 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 35/ 17/ 48 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 152 92 2 43/ 38/ 18 Behemot Michal Janeczek 149 326 3 35/ 23/ 42 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 147 265 4 33/ 18/ 49 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 147 503 5 34/ 23/ 43 Olivia Ben Ford 146 231 6 33/ 27/ 40 ytest d P.Kline 140 3 7 35/ 31/ 34 Blacken Ian Oversby 139 750 8 32/ 25/ 43 Uninvited John Metcalf 139 185 9 40/ 43/ 16 G2-b David Moore 138 289 10 40/ 43/ 17 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 137 460 11 31/ 26/ 43 Vain Ian Oversby 137 14 12 23/ 10/ 67 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 137 203 13 36/ 35/ 29 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 136 204 14 30/ 25/ 45 Jade Ben Ford 136 572 15 30/ 25/ 45 Qtest Christian Schmidt 136 25 16 39/ 45/ 17 Jinx Christian Schmidt 132 466 17 39/ 46/ 15 Phantasm 50 Robert Macrae 131 11 18 27/ 24/ 49 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 131 96 19 38/ 47/ 14 ctest P.Kline 129 19 20 20/ 63/ 17 haki Fredrik Ohrstrom 77 1 21 2/ 2/ 0 haki Fredrik Ohrstrom 8 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 14 15:16:10 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA23598 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4ECG8E04254 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:08 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06856; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105140400.AAA04056@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 05/14/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/14/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 6 10:11:28 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 32/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 152 80 2 44/ 39/ 17 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 148 44 3 34/ 22/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 146 16 4 38/ 33/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 143 32 5 27/ 15/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 139 24 6 33/ 30/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 137 13 7 31/ 25/ 44 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 137 23 8 32/ 30/ 38 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 84 9 35/ 42/ 23 Pagan John K W 129 138 10 15/ 7/ 78 Denial David Moore 124 25 11 29/ 34/ 37 test CS 124 41 12 14/ 5/ 81 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 123 101 13 15/ 7/ 78 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 123 153 14 21/ 20/ 59 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 122 106 15 12/ 5/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 119 47 16 16/ 18/ 66 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 113 105 17 22/ 32/ 45 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 112 10 18 20/ 28/ 52 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 111 11 19 19/ 35/ 47 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 103 3 20 20/ 37/ 43 Disaster Area 2.18 Stefan Foerster 103 1 21 19/ 37/ 44 qsimclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 101 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 14 15:16:11 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA28905 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4ECGAE06319 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:10 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06881; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105140400.AAA04052@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 05/14/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/14/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Mon May 7 11:56:45 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 42 151 2 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 38 58 3 fclear Brian Haskin 37 42 4 Foo John Metcalf 27 12 5 Friction Ken Espiritu 23 30 6 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 20 14 7 sp 1.0 Stefan Foerster 15 2 8 Scan Test Tester 14 17 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 13 77 10 sp 3.0 Stefan Foerster 12 1 11 Leach Omega 2 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 14 15:16:21 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA21133 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:16:20 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4ECDEn23855 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:13:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06906; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105140400.AAA04048@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 05/14/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/14/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sun May 13 17:34:36 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 33/ 21/ 45 Freight Train David Moore 146 75 2 32/ 21/ 47 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 142 14 3 32/ 23/ 45 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 140 32 4 31/ 22/ 47 Guardian Ian Oversby 140 74 5 36/ 36/ 28 PacMan David Moore 135 104 6 37/ 39/ 24 Stasis David Moore 135 182 7 39/ 45/ 15 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 133 71 8 24/ 17/ 59 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 132 88 9 38/ 46/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 131 112 10 35/ 38/ 27 Tangle Trap David Moore 131 148 11 27/ 23/ 50 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 130 30 12 25/ 20/ 55 Test I Ian Oversby 130 131 13 35/ 42/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 128 350 14 38/ 47/ 15 ssss ssss 128 1 15 25/ 22/ 53 Evoltmp 88 John K W 127 125 16 15/ 3/ 82 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 126 3 17 33/ 39/ 28 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 126 15 18 36/ 48/ 16 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 125 400 19 29/ 33/ 37 Frog Sticker P.Kline 125 24 20 37/ 49/ 15 ig Wayne Sheppard 125 2 21 24/ 24/ 53 sic Leonardo H. Liporati 123 4 From corewar-l@koth.org Sun May 20 13:37:57 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id NAA08748 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:37:56 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4KAYen01089 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:34:40 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA07304; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: s_vaelma@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Sakari Vaelma" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Yeah, when i run pMARS it say "no warrior file specied". So, where i write warriors? what extension? And where i need pMARS if i need to send warrior to Koth? I'm very interested about learning this game, but i haven't found good, basic tutorials. Someone plz help me!! Thank you already, -Sakke From corewar-l@koth.org Sun May 20 19:35:23 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA27549 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:35:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4KGW5n09050 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:32:06 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA09379; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <990371347.7096@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Sakari Vaelma wrote: >Yeah, when i run pMARS it say "no warrior file specied". If you just type "pmars" on the command line and hit enter, it should print a description of what options it expects. Something like: pMARS v0.9.2, 25/12/00, corewar simulator with ICWS'94 extensions Copyright (C) 1993-95 Albert Ma, Na'ndor Sieben, Stefan Strack and Mintardjo Wangsaw Usage: pmars [options] file1 [files ..] The special file - stands for standard input Options: -r # Rounds to play [1] -e Enter debugger -s # Size of core [8000] -b Brief mode (no source listings) -c # Cycles until tie [80000] -V Verbose assembly -p # Max. processes [8000] -k Output in KotH format -l # Max. warrior length [100] -8 Enforce ICWS'88 rules -d # Min. warriors distance -f Fixed position series -F # Fixed position of warrior #2 -o Sort result output by score -S # Size of P-space [1/16th core] -P Permutate starting positions -= $ Score formula $ [(W*W-1)/S] -@ $ Read options from file $ Note the lines that say "Usage: pmars [options] file1 [files ..]". That means that after typing "pmars", you need to give zero or more options and then at least one file name, like this: pmars -b -r 100 rave.red aeka.red >So, where i write warriors? what extension? Anywhere you like, any extension you like. The example warriors that come with pMARS are in a directory named "warriors" and have ".red" as their extension. Many people seem to prefer ".txt" instead. >And where i need pMARS if i need to send warrior to Koth? You use pMARS on your own computer to test the warrior. Once you think it's good enough, you send it to the hill. >I'm very interested about learning this game, but i haven't found good, >basic tutorials. Someone plz help me!! I'd like to suggest my own tutorial (see link below) but it doesn't really answer any of the questions you asked. Maybe a new tutorial might be a good idea. I wonder if I'll find time to write one.. -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ Join the Core War Imp Ring: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 00:36:03 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id AAA16226 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 00:36:03 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4KLWmn16696 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 00:32:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA11120; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 20 May 2001, Sakari Vaelma wrote: > Yeah, when i run pMARS it say "no warrior file specied". So, where i write > warriors? what extension? And where i need pMARS if i need to send warrior > to Koth? I'm very interested about learning this game, but i haven't found > good, basic tutorials. Someone plz help me!! > > Thank you already, > > -Sakke Hi! The answers to your questions are: Warriors are written in any ASCII editor (notepad, vi, pico etc.) and files doesn't have to have any extentions, but we (well... actually I) use usually ".red". You don't need to run pMARS at all to send your warrior to the KOTH, but I suggest checking if your warrior works properly. So pMARS can be useful. Many links to manuals, tutorials and archives you can find on KOTH (www.koth.org). And if you want to learn something about pMARS, read its documentation ("pmars.doc"). There are some Redcode references in "redcode.ref" also very useful, but it's not a tutorial. Greetings! Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 15:31:51 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id PAA25275 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:31:49 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LCVlE30170 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:31:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17830; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: s_vaelma@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Sakari Vaelma" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Thanks! I have programmed before, so i know some stuff (asm too... well for my TI-83+, but that red looks pretty similar). I have good idea about warrior now, so be careful!!! :) -Sakke From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 16:32:30 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id QAA13028 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:32:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LDWTE30738 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:32:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18227; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Unsubscribing X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:39:57 -0400, Nathan F Russell wrote: >Stephen Anthony Uy wrote: > >>How do I unsubscribe? I've tried to unsubscribe repeatedly, but apparently >>the listserv doesn't want to let me go. >> >>-Steve > >Whether you are "subscribed" to a newsgroup is a setting on your >client only. > >You should consult its documentation. > >Nathan Yeah, but some people don't come here through, a newsfeed. He's probably on the listserv (note the use of the term 'listserv' in his comment...) This really does need to be unsubscribed from. Unfortunately, the method escapes me. Maybe it was sending an unsubscribe and your email address to pizza, either somewhere in the subject line, or with a semicolon command or something. Not like all that was any help. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 19:20:30 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA03490 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:20:30 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LGHDn04396 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:17:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19491; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105210400.AAA11357@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 05/21/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/21/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 20 23:31:37 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 32/ 18/ 50 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 145 107 2 41/ 39/ 20 Behemot Michal Janeczek 144 341 3 41/ 40/ 19 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 141 475 4 31/ 23/ 45 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 139 280 5 41/ 43/ 17 G2-b David Moore 139 304 6 36/ 33/ 31 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 138 219 7 31/ 25/ 43 ytest m P.Kline 138 1 8 40/ 42/ 18 Jinx Christian Schmidt 138 481 9 28/ 20/ 53 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 136 518 10 32/ 32/ 36 Blacken Ian Oversby 133 765 11 29/ 25/ 45 Olivia Ben Ford 133 246 12 39/ 45/ 16 Phantasm 50 Robert Macrae 133 26 13 39/ 46/ 16 ctest P.Kline 132 34 14 28/ 25/ 48 Uninvited John Metcalf 130 200 15 20/ 10/ 70 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 129 218 16 26/ 26/ 48 Qtest Christian Schmidt 127 40 17 26/ 26/ 48 Jade Ben Ford 126 587 18 26/ 28/ 46 Vain Ian Oversby 125 29 19 23/ 26/ 51 Brigadeer M Joonas Pihlaja 120 111 20 35/ 52/ 13 JGFTest00Q Gino Oblena 117 10 21 6/ 24/ 70 sptst Stefan Foerster 87 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 19:20:31 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA07455 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:20:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LGHEn04397 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:17:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19468; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: well, corewar sure ain't on a Z80, but it's a bit alike. You'll want to check oitu the instruction modifiers, though. > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Sakari > Vaelma > Sent: 21 mai, 2001 08:30 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: Re: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? > > > > Thanks! I have programmed before, so i know some stuff (asm > too... well for > my TI-83+, but that red looks pretty similar). I have good idea about > warrior now, so be careful!!! :) > > -Sakke > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 19:20:38 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA27540 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:20:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LGHLn04407 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:17:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19540; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105210400.AAA11349@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 05/21/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/21/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 20 23:33:16 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 33 158 2 fclear Brian Haskin 31 49 3 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 31 4 4 Her Majesty P.Kline 29 84 5 Scan Test Tester 28 24 6 Friction Ken Espiritu 25 37 7 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 22 21 8 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 17 65 9 Foo John Metcalf 16 19 10 sptst Stefan Foerster 9 1 11 pTestvi C Gino Oblena 8 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 19:20:40 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA23710 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:20:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LGHNn04420 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:17:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19516; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105210400.AAA11353@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 05/21/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/21/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 20 23:54:11 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 32/ 26 Black Moods Ian Oversby 151 80 2 36/ 20/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 151 16 3 44/ 39/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 149 44 4 39/ 33/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 145 32 5 29/ 15/ 56 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 142 24 6 35/ 29/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 141 13 7 31/ 25/ 44 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 138 23 8 32/ 30/ 38 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 134 84 9 36/ 41/ 23 Pagan John K W 131 138 10 23/ 19/ 58 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 128 106 11 30/ 33/ 37 test CS 127 41 12 15/ 6/ 78 Denial David Moore 124 25 13 15/ 7/ 78 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 123 153 14 13/ 5/ 82 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 122 101 15 12/ 5/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 119 47 16 15/ 18/ 66 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 112 105 17 21/ 30/ 49 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 112 10 18 19/ 26/ 55 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 111 11 19 23/ 35/ 42 Disaster Area 2.18 Stefan Foerster 110 1 20 17/ 33/ 50 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 102 3 21 7/ 43/ 50 sptst Stefan Foerster 71 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 19:20:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA04122 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:20:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LGHPn04432 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:17:25 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA19567; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105210400.AAA11345@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 05/21/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/21/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sun May 20 14:57:49 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 38/ 21/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 154 75 2 36/ 21/ 43 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 151 14 3 36/ 23/ 41 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 149 32 4 35/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 148 74 5 39/ 35/ 26 PacMan David Moore 143 104 6 40/ 38/ 22 Stasis David Moore 142 182 7 29/ 17/ 55 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 141 88 8 42/ 43/ 15 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 141 71 9 38/ 36/ 26 Tangle Trap David Moore 139 148 10 29/ 20/ 51 Test I Ian Oversby 139 131 11 39/ 40/ 21 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 139 350 12 31/ 23/ 46 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 139 30 13 41/ 44/ 15 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 138 112 14 19/ 3/ 77 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 136 3 15 40/ 45/ 15 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 135 400 16 29/ 22/ 49 Evoltmp 88 John K W 135 125 17 36/ 37/ 27 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 135 15 18 40/ 46/ 14 ig Wayne Sheppard 134 2 19 39/ 46/ 15 ssss ssss 132 1 20 32/ 33/ 35 Frog Sticker P.Kline 132 24 21 2/ 98/ 0 The Great Escape Sebman 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 21 22:33:24 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA13299 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:33:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4LJXNE09715 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:33:23 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA20970; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <990469740.11002@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Unsubscribing X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Ransom Smith wrote: > >Yeah, but some people don't come here through, a newsfeed. He's probably >on the listserv (note the use of the term 'listserv' in his comment...) > >This really does need to be unsubscribed from. > >Unfortunately, the method escapes me. Send mail to listproc@koth.org. Put "unsubscribe corewar-l" in the message body. More info at http://www.koth.org/newsgroup.htm -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ Join the Core War Imp Ring: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring From corewar-l@koth.org Thu May 24 19:47:34 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id TAA06688 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:47:33 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4OGiCn23230 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:44:12 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22081; Thu, 24 May 2001 12:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <001601c0e35e$570ee9c0$2100a8c0@HomePC> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS? err... where i write warrior? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Status: RO X-Status: > Thanks! I have programmed before, so i know some stuff (asm too... well for > my TI-83+, but that red looks pretty similar). I have good idea about > warrior now, so be careful!!! :) Write it, test it, wonder why it doesn't work, submit it, wonder why it doesn't win, achieve enlightenment, repeat... At some stage you will get stuck, and then you should consider publishing your warrior to the newsgroup. Comments can be a big help, if only in revealing their authors' blind spots! Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 28 09:31:19 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id JAA08479 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:31:19 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4S6Rpn19641 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:27:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA27816; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105280400.AAA16493@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 05/28/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/28/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat May 26 14:31:20 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 43/ 32/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 155 81 2 35/ 20/ 46 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 149 17 3 44/ 39/ 17 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 149 45 4 38/ 33/ 29 Ogre Christian Schmidt 143 33 5 28/ 15/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 142 25 6 32/ 30/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 135 14 7 31/ 30/ 39 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 85 8 29/ 24/ 47 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 133 24 9 34/ 42/ 24 Pagan John K W 127 139 10 15/ 6/ 78 Denial David Moore 124 26 11 29/ 34/ 38 test CS 124 42 12 14/ 5/ 82 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 122 102 13 20/ 18/ 61 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 122 107 14 14/ 7/ 79 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 122 154 15 12/ 5/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 120 48 16 19/ 25/ 56 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 112 12 17 21/ 30/ 49 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 112 11 18 15/ 18/ 66 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 112 106 19 17/ 32/ 51 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 103 4 20 14/ 28/ 58 sptst Stefan Foerster 100 1 21 9/ 31/ 60 pmix (q^b) Stefan Foerster 87 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 28 09:31:35 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id JAA29551 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:31:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.1/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4S6VYE06945 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:31:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA27866; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105280400.AAA16485@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 05/28/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/28/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sun May 20 14:57:49 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 38/ 21/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 154 75 2 36/ 21/ 43 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 151 14 3 36/ 23/ 41 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 149 32 4 35/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 148 74 5 39/ 35/ 26 PacMan David Moore 143 104 6 40/ 38/ 22 Stasis David Moore 142 182 7 29/ 17/ 55 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 141 88 8 42/ 43/ 15 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 141 71 9 38/ 36/ 26 Tangle Trap David Moore 139 148 10 29/ 20/ 51 Test I Ian Oversby 139 131 11 39/ 40/ 21 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 139 350 12 31/ 23/ 46 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 139 30 13 41/ 44/ 15 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 138 112 14 19/ 3/ 77 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 136 3 15 40/ 45/ 15 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 135 400 16 29/ 22/ 49 Evoltmp 88 John K W 135 125 17 36/ 37/ 27 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 135 15 18 40/ 46/ 14 ig Wayne Sheppard 134 2 19 39/ 46/ 15 ssss ssss 132 1 20 32/ 33/ 35 Frog Sticker P.Kline 132 24 21 2/ 98/ 0 The Great Escape Sebman 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon May 28 09:31:38 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id JAA06030 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:31:38 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.3/8.11.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4S6SAn19676 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:28:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA27890; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 02:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105280400.AAA16489@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 05/28/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 05/28/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun May 27 08:01:57 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 fclear Brian Haskin 33 53 2 QuiVa John Metcalf 32 162 3 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 30 69 4 sptst Stefan Foerster 29 1 5 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 24 25 6 Friction Ken Espiritu 24 41 7 Her Majesty P.Kline 21 88 8 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 19 8 9 Foo John Metcalf 17 23 10 Scan Test Tester 9 28 11 Radium 3 Petru Paler ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:37:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f4VNXmG09807 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 02:33:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA13470; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9f6fn3$iai$1@news.huji.ac.il> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: amirlb@bezeqint.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Amir Livne Bar-On" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: irc.koth.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: is this server really being used? i checked, and it was empty (no channels active) Amir Livne From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 1 22:31:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA28028 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:31:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f51JS5G20432 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:28:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22022; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010601143237.25420.00002120@ng-ck1.aol.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: compwiz2000@aol.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: compwiz2000@aol.com (Compwiz2000) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: new pmars X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I am planning on making a C/C++ version (truly portable) of pMARS From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 1 22:32:05 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id WAA10722 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:32:05 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f51JW3h29786 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 22:32:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22048; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <991421357.13135@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: new pmars X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <20010601143237.25420.00002120@ng-ck1.aol.com>, Compwiz2000 wrote: >I am planning on making a C/C++ version (truly portable) of pMARS Eh? pMARS is already written entirely in C. The simulator itself should also compile on pretty much any platform for which a C compiler exists -- the graphical display code is unfortunately not as portable. -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ Join the Core War Imp Ring: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 1 23:20:16 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id XAA12363 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:20:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f51KGeG22247 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:16:41 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA22449; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: irc.koth.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 31 May 2001, Amir Livne Bar-On wrote: > is this server really being used? > i checked, and it was empty (no channels active) > > Amir Livne > Well, there used to be some meetings once upon a time, but lately it's rather a bit "dead". However, it still can be useful. LLucky From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jun 2 03:33:01 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.9.3/8.9.3-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id DAA15906 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:33:00 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f520TOG28153 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:29:24 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA24104; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20010601194345.14600.00002171@ng-mm1.aol.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: compwiz2000@aol.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: compwiz2000@aol.com (Compwiz2000) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: new pmars X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: oops From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 4 17:37:23 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EbNO18397 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:37:23 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EbMh10082 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:37:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19809; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106040400.AAA21288@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 06/04/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/04/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jun 3 16:18:03 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 34/ 19/ 47 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 149 125 2 44/ 39/ 17 Behemot Michal Janeczek 148 359 3 35/ 22/ 44 Inky Ian Oversby 148 15 4 32/ 18/ 50 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 145 536 5 34/ 24/ 42 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 143 298 6 34/ 26/ 40 Revival Fire P.Kline 143 4 7 35/ 30/ 35 Blacken Ian Oversby 141 783 8 32/ 24/ 44 Olivia Ben Ford 140 264 9 36/ 33/ 31 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 140 237 10 41/ 43/ 16 G2-b David Moore 139 322 11 40/ 43/ 17 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 137 493 12 40/ 43/ 16 Jinx Christian Schmidt 137 499 13 31/ 26/ 43 TestAxB2 Gino Oblena 137 3 14 23/ 10/ 67 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 136 236 15 31/ 26/ 44 Uninvited John Metcalf 135 218 16 28/ 21/ 51 Vain Ian Oversby 134 1 17 30/ 26/ 44 test RF B1 Gino Oblena 133 6 18 40/ 46/ 14 ctest P.Kline 133 52 19 29/ 24/ 47 Qtest Christian Schmidt 133 58 20 39/ 46/ 15 Phantasm 50 Robert Macrae 132 44 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 4 17:43:18 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EhIO08587 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:43:18 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EhGh08054 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:43:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19915; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106040400.AAA21284@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 06/04/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/04/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jun 3 11:17:48 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 44/ 31/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 157 81 2 37/ 19/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 154 17 3 46/ 38/ 17 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 153 45 4 39/ 32/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 147 33 5 30/ 15/ 55 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 146 25 6 32/ 24/ 44 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 140 24 7 34/ 30/ 36 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 139 14 8 34/ 29/ 37 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 138 85 9 20/ 6/ 74 Denial David Moore 133 26 10 36/ 41/ 23 Pagan John K W 131 139 11 18/ 7/ 75 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 129 154 12 24/ 18/ 58 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 129 107 13 30/ 33/ 37 test CS 127 42 14 15/ 5/ 81 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 124 102 15 13/ 5/ 82 Black Box v1.1 JKW 122 48 16 16/ 18/ 65 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 114 106 17 21/ 29/ 50 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 112 11 18 18/ 25/ 57 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 111 12 19 16/ 32/ 52 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 101 4 20 14/ 28/ 58 sptst Stefan Foerster 100 1 21 1/ 62/ 37 Hell's Bells Stefan Foerster 41 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 4 17:43:22 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EhLO15387 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:43:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f54EhKh22512 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 17:43:21 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA19940; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106040400.AAA21280@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 06/04/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/04/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jun 3 11:46:21 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 sptst Stefan Foerster 36 2 2 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 32 70 3 fclear Brian Haskin 30 54 4 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 28 26 5 8thTest Gino Oblena 27 1 6 Scan Test Tester 25 29 7 QuiVa John Metcalf 23 163 8 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 20 9 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 19 89 10 Foo John Metcalf 17 24 11 Friction Ken Espiritu 17 42 From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jun 7 07:33:59 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f574XwM25087 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:33:58 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f574UEG28949 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 07:30:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA16843; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 00:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9fmud0$5m5$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hermann Samso To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hello, everybody. Here I post my sound patches, maybe you dig some *** kweeel *** sounds ;-) much joy, and happy birthday, saludos, hermann samso ------8<------------8<------------8<---CUT------8<------------8<------------8<- diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/SOUND pmars-0.8.6-s/SOUND *** pmars-0.8.6/SOUND Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/SOUND Thu Jun 7 00:24:00 2001 *************** *** 0 **** --- 1,68 ---- + 2001.06.06, by Hermann Samso + + Ok, this is a little presentation of my contribution to + this great program: pmars. + + Introduction. + + Having many supports for many different graphics systems, + including text based curses, I use to look at the different + patterns and sweeps that form the battle. + So, I wondered what it would sound like in the middle of + a Core War conflagration. I have patched the program + under Linux and gcc, to spit a file that resembles the + war in at sound level. + + Description. + + Till yet the sound support is kept to a minimum, avoiding + direct output, and writing to a raw-wave file called + "music.raw". There are three different output options, + depending on the parameters that form the base of the + composition (if you can call it that way ;-) + The first one -w 1, bases its output in the arena's form. + It normally produces high pitched strings, or repetitive + drums that reflect those common coloured assault strips. + This option may be tweaked with the sample step option: + -W . Note that this step or size doesn't have + anything to do with the output sample format. This just + specifies from which portion of the mars will the sample + value be calculated. This means that for long arenas or + long cycles, you probably want a bigger step size, to avoid + too much flat samples and also to avoid that output doesn't + explode in size. + The second output type: -w 2, bases its samples on the + position of each warrior's primary task. It waits till + every warrior's PC has been updated, before their task + position as a sample. This type of sound is probably more + interesting than type 1. + At least I added a third type: -w 3, which is ideal for + 2 warriors' war stereo sound exam. + + Installation. + + This is as simple as editing the "makefile" and adding + -DSOUNDOUT option to compilation flags. Read the makefile + for further details. + If you don't like the name of the output file, you may + change in config.h DEFAULTSNDOUT to your prefered name. + + Implementation Notes. + + This patches should be pretty compatible with any computer + as they don't care about sound drivers or direct sound + output, and relies on Hard Disk file output. + Your computer may slow down considerably when using this + option, specially when using -w 1, or if you use a 286 :) + You may listen to music.raw with any frequency you may + agree, but you have to consider that samples are 16 bits + and Little Endian. + + ToDos. + + Ok, options for file format output: 8/16 bits, Big/Little + Endian, and also for output file name, as it is more or less + hard coded by now. + + + Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover) diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/clparse.c pmars-0.8.6-s/clparse.c *** pmars-0.8.6/clparse.c Tue Feb 20 19:15:32 1996 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/clparse.c Wed Jun 6 23:33:18 2001 *************** *** 11,16 **** --- 11,17 ---- * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * clparse.c: command line parser * $Id: clparse.c,v 2.25 1996/02/20 19:15:31 stst Exp stst $ *************** extern char *credits_screen1, *credits_s *** 67,72 **** --- 67,78 ---- *fFExclusive, *coreSizeTooSmall, *dLessThanl, *FLessThand, *FTooBig, *outOfMemory, *badScoreFormula, *optPSpaceSize, *pSpaceTooBig; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + extern char *optSound, *optStep, *wSoundType, *wSampleStep; + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif + #if defined(XWINGRAPHX) extern char *badArgumentForXSwitch, *optXOpt[]; #endif *************** parse_param(largc, largv) *** 453,461 **** /******************************************************************* * command line parameters and options * ********************************************************************/ ! ! #define OPTNUM 20 /* don't forget to increase when adding new * options */ static clp_opt_t options[OPTNUM]; int optI = 0; /* used by record() macro */ --- 459,467 ---- /******************************************************************* * command line parameters and options * ********************************************************************/ ! #define OPTNUM 22 /* don't forget to increase when adding new * options */ + static clp_opt_t options[OPTNUM]; int optI = 0; /* used by record() macro */ *************** parse_param(largc, largv) *** 491,496 **** --- 497,508 ---- 0, optFixedPosition); record('o', clp_bool, &SWITCH_o, 0, 1, 0, optSort); + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + record('w', clp_int, &SWITCH_w, 1, 3, 0, optSound); + record('W', clp_int, &SWITCH_W, 1, MAXCORESIZE, 200, optStep); + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif #if defined(PSPACE) record('S', clp_addr, &pSpaceSize, 1, MAXCORESIZE, 0, optPSpaceSize); *************** parse_param(largc, largv) *** 569,574 **** --- 581,600 ---- errout(FTooBig); result = CLP_NOGOOD; } + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + if ((SWITCH_w) && (3 < SWITCH_w)) { + print_usage(options); + errout(wSoundType); + result = CLP_NOGOOD; + } + if ((SWITCH_W) && (coreSize < SWITCH_W)) { + print_usage(options); + errout(wSampleStep); + result = CLP_NOGOOD; + } + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif set_reg('W', (long) warriors); for (i = 1; i <= warriors; ++i) { set_reg('S', (long) i); diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/config.h pmars-0.8.6-s/config.h *** pmars-0.8.6/config.h Tue Feb 20 19:15:33 1996 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/config.h Thu Jun 7 00:27:07 2001 *************** *** 5,16 **** --- 5,18 ---- * - Programmable debugger. * - Turbo simulator. * - Graphics for many platforms. + * - Sound wave output to disk. * * Contributors: * Albert Ma (ama@mit.edu) * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * config.h: user configuration * $Id: config.h,v 1.21 1996/02/20 19:15:32 stst Exp stst $ *************** *** 157,162 **** --- 159,176 ---- */ /* ******************************************************************** + SOUNDOUT: If defined, specifies that pMARS has sound output support + included. It saves generated sound .raw format in 16bit Little + Endian format. The output file is called "music.raw". + ******************************************************************** */ + + /* + #ifndef SOUNDOUT + #define SOUNDOUT + #endif + */ + + /* ******************************************************************** PMARSLANG: Currently, all messages are in English, but as soon as new translations of str_*.c come out, you can use this symbol to specify your choice of language *************** *** 256,262 **** /* 'l' or 'L' is required if the number is bigger than 32767 */ #define DEFAULTCYCLES 80000L #define DEFAULTSCORE "(W*W-1)/S"/* formula used for score calculation */ ! /* ******************************************************************** Do not alter the next sections. They mainly ensure consistency. ******************************************************************** */ --- 270,278 ---- /* 'l' or 'L' is required if the number is bigger than 32767 */ #define DEFAULTCYCLES 80000L #define DEFAULTSCORE "(W*W-1)/S"/* formula used for score calculation */ ! /* HSJ 2001 */ ! #define DEFAULTSNDFILE "music.raw" /* music file output name */ ! /* HSJ 2001 */ /* ******************************************************************** Do not alter the next sections. They mainly ensure consistency. ******************************************************************** */ diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/copy.red pmars-0.8.6-s/copy.red *** pmars-0.8.6/copy.red Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/copy.red Wed Jun 6 23:12:32 2001 *************** *** 0 **** --- 1,11 ---- + ORG START + DAT.F # 0, # 1 + DAT.F # 0, # 1 + DAT.F # 0, # 1 + START MOV.AB # 9, $ -3 + MOV.AB # 28, $ -3 + MOV.AB # 9, $ -3 + MOV.I < -6, < -5 + DJN.B $ -1, $ -5 + JMP.B $ 15, $ 0 + \ No newline at end of file diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/global.c pmars-0.8.6-s/global.c *** pmars-0.8.6/global.c Tue Feb 20 19:15:37 1996 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/global.c Wed Jun 6 23:29:16 2001 *************** *** 11,16 **** --- 11,17 ---- * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * global.c: global data declarations * $Id: global.c,v 1.18 1996/02/20 19:15:36 stst Exp stst $ *************** int SWITCH_V; *** 47,52 **** --- 48,59 ---- int SWITCH_o; int SWITCH_Q = -1; /* not set */ char *SWITCH_eq = DEFAULTSCORE; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + int SWITCH_w = 0; /* default music output */ + int SWITCH_W = 200; /* default sample step */ + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif #ifdef VMS int SWITCH_D; #endif diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/global.h pmars-0.8.6-s/global.h *** pmars-0.8.6/global.h Mon Apr 10 10:07:48 2000 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/global.h Wed Jun 6 23:34:17 2001 *************** *** 11,16 **** --- 11,17 ---- * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * global.h: global header * $Id: global.h,v 1.29 1996/02/20 19:15:37 stst Exp stst $ *************** extern int SWITCH_V; *** 315,320 **** --- 316,327 ---- extern int SWITCH_o; extern int SWITCH_Q; extern char *SWITCH_eq; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + extern int SWITCH_w; + extern int SWITCH_W; + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif #ifdef VMS extern int SWITCH_D; #endif diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/makefile pmars-0.8.6-s/makefile *** pmars-0.8.6/makefile Thu Oct 26 21:07:29 1995 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/makefile Thu Jun 7 00:52:50 2001 *************** CC = cc # if you don't have gcc *** 14,25 **** # (4) -DEXT94 ICWS'94 + SEQ,SNE,NOP,*,{,} # (5) -DSMALLMEM 16-bit addresses, less memory # (6) -DXWINGRAPHX 1 X-Windows graphics (UNIX) - CFLAGS = -O -DEXT94 LFLAGS = -x ! LIB = -lcurses -ltermlib # enable this one for curses display # LIB = -lvgagl -lvga # enable this one for Linux/SVGA ! # LIB = -lX11 # enable this one for X11 .SUFFIXES: .o .c .c~ .man .doc .6 MAINFILE = pmars --- 14,30 ---- # (4) -DEXT94 ICWS'94 + SEQ,SNE,NOP,*,{,} # (5) -DSMALLMEM 16-bit addresses, less memory # (6) -DXWINGRAPHX 1 X-Windows graphics (UNIX) + # (7) -DSOUNDOUT Music Sample output to disk. + + CFLAGS = -O -DEXT94 -DCURSESGRAPHX -DSOUNDOUT + #CFLAGS = -O -DEXT94 -DSOUNDOUT + #CFLAGS = -O -DEXT94 -DXWINGRAPHX -DSOUNDOUT LFLAGS = -x ! LIB = -lncurses ! #LIB = -lcurses -ltermlib # enable this one for curses display # LIB = -lvgagl -lvga # enable this one for Linux/SVGA ! #LIB = -L/usr/X11/lib -lX11 # enable this one for X11 .SUFFIXES: .o .c .c~ .man .doc .6 MAINFILE = pmars diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/sim.c pmars-0.8.6-s/sim.c *** pmars-0.8.6/sim.c Mon Apr 10 09:07:46 2000 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/sim.c Thu Jun 7 00:55:48 2001 *************** *** 11,16 **** --- 11,17 ---- * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * sim.c: simulator * $Id: sim.c,v 3.19 1996/02/20 19:15:48 stst Exp stst $ *************** mem_struct FAR *memory; *** 173,178 **** --- 174,190 ---- long cycle; int round; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ, 2001 */ + long mem_idx1; + long mem_idx2; + long war_idx; + long smp; + long snd_cycles = 0; + FILE* output_file; /* output file */ + /* HSJ, 2001 */ + #endif + char alloc_p = 0; /* indicate whether memory has been allocated */ int warriorsLeft; /* number of warriors still left in core */ *************** register int temp; *** 242,247 **** --- 254,271 ---- endWar = warrior + warriors; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 open file for raw music output */ + if (SWITCH_w) { + output_file = fopen(DEFAULTSNDFILE, "wb"); + if (!output_file) { + printf("Error creating output file \"%s\".\n", DEFAULTSNDFILE); + exit(-1); + } + } + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif + #ifdef DOS16 if (!alloc_p) { memory = farmalloc((long) coreSize * sizeof(mem_struct)); *************** register int temp; *** 344,353 **** --- 368,427 ---- W = W->nextWarrior; } while (++temp < warriors); + + display_clear(); /* the inner loop of execution */ do { /* each cycle */ display_cycle(); + + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + if (snd_cycles == warriors) { + smp = 0; + if (SWITCH_w == 1) { + for (mem_idx1 = 0; mem_idx1 < coreSize; mem_idx1 = mem_idx1+SWITCH_W) { + for (mem_idx2 = 0; mem_idx2 < SWITCH_W && mem_idx2 < coreSize; mem_idx2++) { + smp = smp+ + (memory[mem_idx1+mem_idx2].A_value+ + memory[mem_idx1+mem_idx2].B_value)/2; + } + smp = smp/SWITCH_W; + smp = (smp*65535)/coreSize; + fputc(smp&0xFF, output_file); + fputc((smp>8)&0xFF, output_file); + /* beware: 1. most values are zero, 2. values > 256, 3. 7999 peak */ + } + } + else if (SWITCH_w == 2) { + W = starter; + for (war_idx = 0; war_idx < warriors; war_idx++) { + smp = smp + *(W->taskHead); + W = W->nextWarrior; + } + smp = smp/warriors; + smp = (smp*65535)/coreSize; + fputc(smp&0xFF, output_file); + fputc((smp>8)&0xFF, output_file); + } + else if (SWITCH_w == 3) { + W = starter; + for (war_idx = 0; war_idx < warriors; war_idx++) { + smp = smp + *(W->taskHead); + smp = (smp*65535)/coreSize; + fputc(smp&0xFF, output_file); + fputc((smp>8)&0xFF, output_file); + W = W->nextWarrior; + } + } + + snd_cycles = 1; + } + else + snd_cycles++; + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif + // progCnt = *(W->taskHead++); // IR = memory[progCnt]; /* copy instruction into register */ IR = memory[(progCnt= *(W->taskHead++))]; diff -r -b -B -c -p -P pmars-0.8.6/str_eng.c pmars-0.8.6-s/str_eng.c *** pmars-0.8.6/str_eng.c Tue Feb 20 19:15:50 1996 --- pmars-0.8.6-s/str_eng.c Wed Jun 6 23:30:56 2001 *************** *** 11,16 **** --- 11,17 ---- * Na'ndor Sieben (sieben@imap1.asu.edu) * Stefan Strack (stst@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) * Mintardjo Wangsawidjaja (wangsawm@kira.csos.orst.edu) + * Hermann Samso (samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de) * * strings.c: externalized messages for easy translation (ENGLISH version) * $Id: str_eng.c,v 1.20 1996/02/20 19:15:50 stst Exp stst $ *************** char *optDistance = "Min. warriors dis *** 394,399 **** --- 395,406 ---- char *optFixedSeries = "Fixed position series"; char *optFixedPosition = "Fixed position of warrior #2"; char *optSort = "Sort result output by score"; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + char *optSound = "Write sound [1,3]"; + char *optStep = "Sample step size [1,CORESIZE]"; + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif #if defined(DOSTXTGRAPHX) || defined(DOSGRXGRAPHX) || defined(LINUXGRAPHX)\ || defined(XWINGRAPHX) char *optView = "Coreview mode [103]"; *************** char *dLessThanl = "\nWarrior distance *** 419,424 **** --- 426,437 ---- char *FLessThand = "\nPosition of warrior #2 cannot be smaller than warrior distance\n"; char *FTooBig = "\nPosition of warrior #2 is too big\n"; char *badScoreFormula = "\nBad score formula\n"; + #ifdef SOUNDOUT + /* HSJ 2001 */ + char *wSoundType = "\nWrong sound type, must be number in range [1,3]\n"; + char *wSampleStep = "\nWrong sample step size, must be in range [1,CORESIZE]\n"; + /* HSJ 2001 */ + #endif #ifdef PSPACE char *pSpaceTooBig = "\nP-space is bigger than core\n"; #endif From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jun 7 15:58:34 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57CwTM31729 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:58:29 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57CsiG13653 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 15:54:45 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA21115; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@if.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Sounds fantastic to me! Now I will be able to hear screams of dying enemies. :))) Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jun 7 16:35:36 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57DZaM17654 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:35:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57DVpG17076 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:31:52 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA21435; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 7 Jun 2001 04:02:40 GMT, Hermann Samso wrote: > Hello, everybody. > > Here I post my sound patches, maybe you dig some > *** kweeel *** sounds ;-) > > much joy, > and happy birthday, > saludos, > hermann samso > Bizarre. Does it patch cleanly into 0.9.1? -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jun 7 19:35:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57GZWM07799 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:35:32 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57GVlG27779 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 19:31:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA22796; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9fo5nm$qv6$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Ransom Smith wrote: > > > >Bizarre. Does it patch cleanly into 0.9.1? Don't know, but it doesn't quite patch into 0.9.2 (basically because of the copyright messages, but a couple of other bits need hand-tweaking); However, if Hermann is happy for his code to be GPL'd, I'll put up my version of his patch which does. I'll try and integrate it with my autoconf patch sometime in the next couple of days... P -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 8 01:40:37 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57MebM23070 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:40:37 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f57MapG11587 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:36:51 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25332; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9fordh$bro$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: samso@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Hermann Samso To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Philip Kendall wrote: > In article , > Ransom Smith wrote: >> >> >> >>Bizarre. Does it patch cleanly into 0.9.1? > Don't know, but it doesn't quite patch into 0.9.2 (basically because of > the copyright messages, but a couple of other bits need hand-tweaking); > However, if Hermann is happy for his code to be GPL'd, I'll put up my > version of his patch which does. Yes. That would be fine. [searching for that 0.9.2 ...] saludos, hermann samso From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 8 17:33:41 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f58EXeW25069 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f58EXdh28924 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 17:33:39 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA02521; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 10:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9fql8t$3vc$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pmars-v0.8.6 sound output patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <9fordh$bro$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>, Hermann Samso wrote: > > Yes. That would be fine. [searching for that 0.9.2 ...] It's on SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/corewar/ Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 11 13:32:45 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BAWiW21837 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:32:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BASt406717 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:28:55 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA01154; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9g22ai$2mv$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: New pMARS automake/autoconf patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all. Due to a lack of Internet connectivity at my house yesterday afternoon, I was stuck doing stuff which was already on my local machine... so I decided to finally get around writing proper automake/autoconf support for pMARS. Which I got working, and I've now uploaded to SourceForge... Some quick comments: * I no longer build doc/pmars.man or doc/pmars.doc (the `online' and `printable' versions of the pMARS man page); I can see that these might be useful on a non-Unix system, but they need nroff to build, and I imagine the number of systems with nroff but without man is pretty small... * The documentation, example warriors and example config files are installed into $PREFIX/share/doc, .../warriors and ../config respectively, where $PREFIX defaults to /usr/local. Couldn't quite see where else to put them :-) Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 11 14:51:28 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBpRW23360 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:51:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBpQh25110 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:51:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01676; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106110400.AAA11878@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 06/11/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/11/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jun 10 04:08:48 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 33/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 152 85 2 34/ 21/ 45 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 146 21 3 42/ 40/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 144 49 4 38/ 34/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 142 37 5 26/ 16/ 58 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 136 29 6 31/ 32/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 131 18 7 26/ 24/ 50 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 128 28 8 34/ 42/ 24 Pagan John K W 127 143 9 29/ 31/ 40 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 126 89 10 15/ 6/ 79 Denial David Moore 124 30 11 13/ 5/ 82 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 121 106 12 14/ 7/ 79 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 121 158 13 27/ 34/ 38 test CS 121 46 14 12/ 5/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 119 52 15 18/ 18/ 63 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 118 111 16 14/ 18/ 67 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 111 110 17 18/ 26/ 56 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 110 16 18 14/ 19/ 67 sptst (4D) Stefan Foerster 110 1 19 20/ 30/ 50 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 109 15 20 13/ 19/ 68 sptst (3D) Stefan Foerster 106 2 21 16/ 32/ 52 qsmclear 1.1 Stefan Foerster 100 8 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 11 14:51:32 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBpVW22309 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:51:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBlh414567 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:47:43 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01700; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106110400.AAA11870@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 06/11/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/11/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Jun 8 15:47:30 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 38/ 21/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 154 75 2 36/ 21/ 43 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 151 14 3 36/ 23/ 41 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 149 32 4 35/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 148 74 5 39/ 35/ 26 PacMan David Moore 143 104 6 40/ 38/ 22 Stasis David Moore 142 182 7 29/ 17/ 55 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 141 88 8 42/ 43/ 15 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 141 71 9 38/ 36/ 26 Tangle Trap David Moore 139 148 10 29/ 20/ 51 Test I Ian Oversby 139 131 11 39/ 40/ 21 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 139 350 12 31/ 23/ 46 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 139 30 13 41/ 44/ 15 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 138 112 14 19/ 3/ 77 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 136 3 15 40/ 45/ 15 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 135 400 16 29/ 22/ 49 Evoltmp 88 John K W 135 125 17 36/ 37/ 27 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 135 15 18 40/ 46/ 14 ig Wayne Sheppard 134 2 19 39/ 46/ 15 ssss ssss 132 1 20 32/ 33/ 35 Frog Sticker P.Kline 132 24 21 2/ 98/ 0 bombardero Albert 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 11 14:56:25 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBuOW01673 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:56:24 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5BBqa415082 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:52:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01724; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 07:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106110400.AAA11874@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 06/11/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/11/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jun 10 03:38:14 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 24 16 2 QuiVa John Metcalf 21 170 3 test John Metcalf 16 5 4 8thTest Gino Oblena 16 8 5 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 12 33 6 fclear Brian Haskin 11 61 7 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 10 77 8 Her Majesty P.Kline 8 96 9 sptst (3D) Stefan Foerster 4 2 10 sptst (4D) Stefan Foerster 3 1 11 sptst Stefan Foerster 2 6 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jun 12 12:35:49 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5C9ZmW25278 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:35:48 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5C9Vw418864 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:31:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA11324; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 05:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <992334625.26377@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New pMARS automake/autoconf patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <9g22ai$2mv$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>, Philip Kendall wrote: > >Due to a lack of Internet connectivity at my house yesterday afternoon, >I was stuck doing stuff which was already on my local machine... so I >decided to finally get around writing proper automake/autoconf support >for pMARS. > >Which I got working, and I've now uploaded to SourceForge... Neat! And I just got some round tuits too. Now where did I put those.. Ah, here. I'll spend one to take a look at that patch of yours as soon as I get home this evening. >* I no longer build doc/pmars.man or doc/pmars.doc (the `online' and > `printable' versions of the pMARS man page); I can see that these Separate make target? >* The documentation, example warriors and example config files are > installed into $PREFIX/share/doc, .../warriors and ../config > respectively, where $PREFIX defaults to /usr/local. Couldn't quite see > where else to put them :-) The default installation path for warriors and config files should IMHO probably have "/pmars/" in it somewhere. I'll think about that more once I've taken a look at the patch itself. -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ Join the Core War Imp Ring: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/cgi-bin/impring From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jun 12 13:36:27 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5CAaRW00677 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:36:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5CAaPh17096 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:36:26 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA11710; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 06:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9g4ovj$k67$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New pMARS automake/autoconf patch X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <992334625.26377@itz.pp.sci.fi>, Ilmari Karonen wrote: >In article <9g22ai$2mv$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>, Philip Kendall wrote: [pMARS automake/autoconf patch] >>* I no longer build doc/pmars.man or doc/pmars.doc (the `online' and >> `printable' versions of the pMARS man page); I can see that these > >Separate make target? Certainly possible -- what do people think is actually needed? The `online' version printed fine from my box. >>* The documentation, example warriors and example config files are >> installed into $PREFIX/share/doc, .../warriors and ../config >> respectively, where $PREFIX defaults to /usr/local. Couldn't quite see >> where else to put them :-) > >The default installation path for warriors and config files should IMHO >probably have "/pmars/" in it somewhere. I'll think about that more >once I've taken a look at the patch itself. It does (typo in my post; the patch is fine) -- they end up in $PREFIX/share/pmars/{doc,warriors,config}. Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jun 16 02:32:28 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5FNWRW19591 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:32:27 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5FNST426153 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:28:30 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16974; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3b2a8fda$0$29726$9b622d9e@news.freenet.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: wingx@gmx.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Michael Hoch" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Oh, btw, can anyone send me the binaries for Win95? thx, Michael From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jun 16 16:35:17 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5GDZHW25932 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:35:17 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5GDVJ408475 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:31:19 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA23674; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 09:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gfks4$qag$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: New version of koth.c X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all. I've just uploaded a new version of koth.c (my C replacement for koth.bat, the testing script distributed with the Wilkies benchmark suite) to: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/koth.html to fix a small bug, as pointed out (and fixed) by Stefan Foerster. Thanks to that man :-) Sorry -- no DOS binaries of the new version as I don't have a DOS machine anymore. If anyone wants to give me one, I'll put it on the koth page. Cheers, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jun 17 04:42:26 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5H1gPW06527 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:42:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5H1gOh28792 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 04:42:25 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA27723; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Khuong" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: RE: New version of koth.c MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Status: RO X-Status: Would love to compile it for win32 console and DOS; however it seems BCPP doesn't wanna make it 8) > -----Original Message----- > From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Philip > Kendall > Sent: 16 juin, 2001 09:32 > To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L > Subject: New version of koth.c > > > Hi all. > > I've just uploaded a new version of koth.c (my C replacement for > koth.bat, the testing script distributed with the Wilkies benchmark > suite) to: > > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/koth.html > > to fix a small bug, as pointed out (and fixed) by Stefan Foerster. > Thanks to that man :-) > > Sorry -- no DOS binaries of the new version as I don't have a DOS > machine anymore. If anyone wants to give me one, I'll put it on the koth > page. > > Cheers, > > Phil > > -- > Philip Kendall > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 01-06-12 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 01-06-12 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jun 17 05:31:41 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5H2VeW05803 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:31:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5H2Rg420695 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:27:42 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA28084; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gh1ch$n5e$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New version of koth.c X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <9gfks4$qag$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>, Philip Kendall wrote: >Hi all. > >I've just uploaded a new version of koth.c (my C replacement for >koth.bat, the testing script distributed with the Wilkies benchmark >suite) to: > >http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/koth.html Or at least, I meant to. However, my usual incompetence took over and I actually uploaded the old version. I'm stupid :-) Now (hopefully) fixed... Phil (may be some DOS binaries tomorrow, again thanks to Stefan Foerster). -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jun 17 14:33:21 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5HBXLW31614 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:33:21 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5HBTL428532 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 14:29:21 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02536; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9ghvd1$kl$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New version of koth.c X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Paul Khuong wrote: [Quoting fixed; there's a very good summary of quoting issues at http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html ] >> From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Philip >> Kendall [new version of koth.c] >> Sorry -- no DOS binaries of the new version as I don't have a DOS >> machine anymore. If anyone wants to give me one, I'll put it on the koth >> page. > >Would love to compile it for win32 console and DOS; however it seems BCPP >doesn't wanna make it 8) That's not supposed to happen :-( What errors do you get (preferably with the actual v0.02...) ? Cheers, Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 18 07:37:35 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5I4bZW16152 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:37:35 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5I4bYh25098 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:37:34 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA08800; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <992836428.752659@bau2.a-city.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: foerster@a-city.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_F=F6rster?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New version of koth.c MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: BCPP probably doesn't know about pipes (popen(), pclose()). If that's the reason, just take the koth.c version 0.01 together with readConfig() of version 0.02 (one line added). ;-) -- Stefan Foerster http://home.a-city.de/stefan.foerster Quote of the Day: Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #109: Dignity and an empty sack ... is worth the sack. Quark, Star Trek Deep Space 9: "Rivals" (created at stardate [-30]6805.7796, Mon Jun 18 05:44:32 2001) "Philip Kendall" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:9ghvd1$kl$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk... > In article , > Paul Khuong wrote: > > [Quoting fixed; there's a very good summary of quoting issues at > http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html ] > > >> From: corewar-l@koth.org [mailto:corewar-l@koth.org]On Behalf Of Philip > >> Kendall > > [new version of koth.c] > > >> Sorry -- no DOS binaries of the new version as I don't have a DOS > >> machine anymore. If anyone wants to give me one, I'll put it on the koth > >> page. > > > >Would love to compile it for win32 console and DOS; however it seems BCPP > >doesn't wanna make it 8) > > That's not supposed to happen :-( What errors do you get (preferably > with the actual v0.02...) ? > > Cheers, > > Phil > > -- > Philip Kendall > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 18 14:21:12 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBLCW14220 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:21:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBHBo24808 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:17:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12651; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106180400.AAA03936@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 06/18/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/18/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Thu Jun 14 02:23:46 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 32/ 25 Black Moods Ian Oversby 153 88 2 34/ 21/ 45 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 148 24 3 42/ 41/ 17 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 144 52 4 38/ 34/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 143 40 5 26/ 16/ 58 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 137 32 6 31/ 31/ 38 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 131 21 7 34/ 42/ 24 Pagan John K W 126 146 8 24/ 23/ 53 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 125 31 9 28/ 31/ 41 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 124 92 10 15/ 6/ 79 Denial David Moore 124 33 11 14/ 7/ 79 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 121 161 12 12/ 5/ 83 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 120 109 13 27/ 34/ 39 test CS 120 49 14 12/ 4/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 120 55 15 18/ 18/ 65 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 118 114 16 14/ 18/ 68 Purple v0.1 Christian Schmidt 109 113 17 17/ 25/ 58 Disaster Area 2.8 Stefan Foerster 109 19 18 18/ 29/ 53 Disaster Area 2.10 Stefan Foerster 107 18 19 12/ 19/ 68 sptst (3D) Stefan Foerster 105 5 20 12/ 19/ 68 sptst (4D) Stefan Foerster 105 1 21 0/ 0/ 5 sptst (4D) Stefan Foerster 5 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 18 14:21:15 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBLEW28311 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:21:14 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBLDh05032 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:21:13 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12674; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106180400.AAA03928@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 06/18/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/18/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Thu Jun 14 12:51:33 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 32/ 20/ 48 Freight Train David Moore 145 77 2 30/ 20/ 50 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 141 16 3 30/ 21/ 49 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 139 34 4 28/ 21/ 51 Guardian Ian Oversby 136 76 5 36/ 40/ 24 Stasis David Moore 132 184 6 39/ 45/ 16 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 132 73 7 34/ 37/ 28 PacMan David Moore 131 106 8 30/ 30/ 40 Frog Sticker P.Kline 129 26 9 38/ 46/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 129 114 10 33/ 39/ 29 Tangle Trap David Moore 127 150 11 22/ 16/ 62 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 127 90 12 23/ 19/ 58 Jinglo John Metcalf 126 1 13 24/ 22/ 54 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 126 32 14 22/ 19/ 59 Test I Ian Oversby 125 133 15 34/ 43/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 125 352 16 36/ 47/ 16 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 125 402 17 22/ 21/ 57 Evoltmp 88 John K W 124 127 18 36/ 49/ 15 ig Wayne Sheppard 124 4 19 31/ 39/ 30 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 124 17 20 13/ 3/ 84 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 123 5 21 0/ 0/ 4 Jinglo John Metcalf 5 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 18 14:21:17 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBLGW32503 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:21:16 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IBHEo24823 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:17:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12627; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106180400.AAA03932@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 06/18/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/18/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Jun 16 04:11:29 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 29 36 2 QuiVa John Metcalf 23 173 3 test John Metcalf 22 8 4 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 19 19 5 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 14 80 6 fclear Brian Haskin 13 64 7 Her Majesty P.Kline 12 99 8 8thTest Gino Oblena 11 11 9 sptst (3D) Stefan Foerster 10 5 10 sptst (5D) Stefan Foerster 3 1 11 sptst (5D) Stefan Foerster 0 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 18 18:34:01 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IFY0W10993 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:34:00 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5IFTso15761 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:30:00 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA14232; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gl2dv$j25$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: New version of koth.c X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <9gh1ch$n5e$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>, Philip Kendall wrote: Sorry for following up to myself again :-) [new version of koth.c] >Phil (may be some DOS binaries tomorrow, again thanks to Stefan >Foerster). Now up in the usual location ( http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/koth.html ). Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 10:33:55 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M7XsW23680 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:33:55 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M7Tmo07448 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:29:48 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA24842; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 03:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gun4l$1kaf$1@news.lf.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: aiforge@heindl.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Dennis Luehring" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: corewar and crobots for qnx X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: there is corewar and crobots version for qnx (www.qnx.com) under http://matrix.tesi.dsi.unimi.it/pub/qnx-tools/other/games/crobots/ and http://matrix.tesi.dsi.unimi.it/pub/qnx-tools/other/games/corewars/ but what the hell is the z fiel format? ... i try uncompress -> nothing happens :-/ any qnx-crobots-or-corewars-z-fileformat-freak out there? ciao dennis From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 11:33:43 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8XgW02565 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:33:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8TZo08644 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:29:35 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25220; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: vincent@ss-a.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: vincent@ss-a.org (vincent) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: windows 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hello everybody. Do yuo know where i can find a decent carewar graphic viewer for W2000. Thanks. Vincent From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 11:33:43 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8XhW13645 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:33:43 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8Tao08648 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:29:36 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25239; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gurqj$1obt$1@news.lf.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: aiforge@flatmem.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Dennis Luehring" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: windows 2000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: what is a "carewar" graphic viewer ... this is the COREWAR newsgroup "vincent" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:a3bc6987.0106212314.206a8f01@posting.google.com... > Hello everybody. > > Do yuo know where i can find a decent carewar graphic viewer for W2000. > > Thanks. > > Vincent From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 11:33:44 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8XiW28298 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:33:44 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M8Tbo08652 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:29:37 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA25259; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gut61$1pp6$1@news.lf.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: aiforge@flatmem.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Dennis Luehring" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: corewar and crobots for qnx X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: sorry ... but the email aiforge@heindl.de is wrong use aiforge@flatmem.de for reply "Dennis Luehring" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:9gun4l$1kaf$1@news.lf.net... > there is corewar and crobots version for qnx (www.qnx.com) under > http://matrix.tesi.dsi.unimi.it/pub/qnx-tools/other/games/crobots/ > > and > > http://matrix.tesi.dsi.unimi.it/pub/qnx-tools/other/games/corewars/ > > but what the hell is the z fiel format? ... i try uncompress -> nothing > happens :-/ > > any qnx-crobots-or-corewars-z-fileformat-freak out there? > > ciao dennis > > > From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 12:33:57 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M9XvW20463 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:33:57 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M9Too09870 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:29:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25729; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:32:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gv09n$2gb$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: pak21@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: windows 2000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <9gurqj$1obt$1@news.lf.net>, Dennis Luehring wrote: [quoting fixed -- there's a good guide to this at http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html] >"vincent" schrieb im Newsbeitrag >news:a3bc6987.0106212314.206a8f01@posting.google.com... >> >> Do yuo know where i can find a decent carewar graphic viewer for W2000. > >what is a "carewar" graphic viewer ... this is the COREWAR newsgroup Here's a suggestion, Dennis: unless you've never made a typo when posting to Usenet (like, say, posting with the wrong e-mail address), why don't you try to be helpful when replying to other people? Anyway, Vincent: I presume you've tried pMARS and that either doesn't work or you don't like it... if it doesn't work, which version where you trying? Someone (Philip Knight??) compiled a version for Win95 at one stage, which may help if you were trying the DOS version. If you've got pMARS working (in graphics mode) and you don't like it... sorry, I can't really help there. pMARS is basically the be all and end all of corewar simulators... Phil -- Philip Kendall http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 12:34:12 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M9YCW32437 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:34:12 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5M9YBh05591 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:34:11 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA25748; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9gv1bq$1tdc$1@news.lf.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: aiforge@flatmem.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Dennis Luehring" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: windows 2000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Here's a suggestion, Dennis: unless you've never made a typo when > posting to Usenet (like, say, posting with the wrong e-mail address), > why don't you try to be helpful when replying to other people? sorry,sorry,sorry ... but i've found a "careware" viewer in the internet ... :-} @Vincent: if you just need links try www.aiforge.net (my programming game link list) ciao dennis (from germany/tübingen) "Philip Kendall" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:9gv09n$2gb$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk... > In article <9gurqj$1obt$1@news.lf.net>, > Dennis Luehring wrote: > > [quoting fixed -- there's a good guide to this at > http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html] > > >"vincent" schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >news:a3bc6987.0106212314.206a8f01@posting.google.com... > >> > >> Do yuo know where i can find a decent carewar graphic viewer for W2000. > > > >what is a "carewar" graphic viewer ... this is the COREWAR newsgroup > > Here's a suggestion, Dennis: unless you've never made a typo when > posting to Usenet (like, say, posting with the wrong e-mail address), > why don't you try to be helpful when replying to other people? > > Anyway, Vincent: I presume you've tried pMARS and that either doesn't > work or you don't like it... if it doesn't work, which version where you > trying? Someone (Philip Knight??) compiled a version for Win95 at one > stage, which may help if you were trying the DOS version. > > If you've got pMARS working (in graphics mode) and you don't like it... > sorry, I can't really help there. pMARS is basically the be all and end > all of corewar simulators... > > Phil > > -- > Philip Kendall > http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jun 22 16:39:55 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5MDdtW31258 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:39:55 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5MDdsh22670 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 16:39:54 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA27259; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:32:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ransom@localhost.localdomain Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: ransom@localhost.localdomain (Ransom Smith) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: corewar and crobots for qnx X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:04:05 +0200, Dennis Luehring wrote: > >but what the heck is the z file format? ... i try uncompress -> nothing >happens :-/ > >any qnx-crobots-or-corewars-z-fileformat-freak out there? If by "z file format" you mean a file that ends with the extension .Z, that is a common extension for files compressed using the adaptive Lempel-Ziv coding of compress(1). It should be extractable with uncompress, winzip, pkunzip, or gunzip (but NOT bunzip2). The only other "z file format" I can think of is Z-code. This has even less to do with corewar than compression. Its extensions are stuff like .z3 and z5 and such. Those are infocom data files. This would probably be the wrong group for them. -- [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=5913] [foehg@burtonian.com] [http://www.koth.org/] [http://www.nethack.org/] [http://www.slashdot.org/] I reserve the right to be normal, at any time and without notice. From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jun 23 07:36:40 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5N4aeW07327 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:36:40 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5N4adh08509 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:36:39 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03569; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B340E88.76387E04@alaska.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: cgbean@alaska.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Winston Bean To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: windows 2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Here's a suggestion, Dennis: unless you've never made a typo when > posting to Usenet (like, say, posting with the wrong e-mail address), > why don't you try to be helpful when replying to other people? LMAO, Phil. -Winston From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jun 23 07:36:42 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5N4agW27745 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:36:42 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5N4WXo02161 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 07:32:33 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03589; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 00:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: vincent@ss-a.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: vincent@ss-a.org (vincent) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: windows 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Thanks "everybody" for yours answer. In fact PMARS 0.8 work in W2000 but only in TEXT. The "graphical" or "svga" viewers make conflicts and errors with windows. Thanks again. Vincent pak21@cam.ac.uk (Philip Kendall) wrote in message news:<9gv09n$2gb$1@kern.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk>... > In article <9gurqj$1obt$1@news.lf.net>, > Dennis Luehring wrote: > > [quoting fixed -- there's a good guide to this at > http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting.html] > > >"vincent" schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >news:a3bc6987.0106212314.206a8f01@posting.google.com... > >> > >> Do yuo know where i can find a decent carewar graphic viewer for W2000. > > > >what is a "carewar" graphic viewer ... this is the COREWAR newsgroup > > Here's a suggestion, Dennis: unless you've never made a typo when > posting to Usenet (like, say, posting with the wrong e-mail address), > why don't you try to be helpful when replying to other people? > > Anyway, Vincent: I presume you've tried pMARS and that either doesn't > work or you don't like it... if it doesn't work, which version where you > trying? Someone (Philip Knight??) compiled a version for Win95 at one > stage, which may help if you were trying the DOS version. > > If you've got pMARS working (in graphics mode) and you don't like it... > sorry, I can't really help there. pMARS is basically the be all and end > all of corewar simulators... > > Phil From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 25 15:55:07 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCt6W09755 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:55:06 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCoso17842 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:50:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28132; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106250400.AAA23644@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 06/25/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/25/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Thu Jun 14 12:51:33 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 32/ 20/ 48 Freight Train David Moore 145 77 2 30/ 20/ 50 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 141 16 3 30/ 21/ 49 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 139 34 4 28/ 21/ 51 Guardian Ian Oversby 136 76 5 36/ 40/ 24 Stasis David Moore 132 184 6 39/ 45/ 16 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 132 73 7 34/ 37/ 28 PacMan David Moore 131 106 8 30/ 30/ 40 Frog Sticker P.Kline 129 26 9 38/ 46/ 16 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 129 114 10 33/ 39/ 29 Tangle Trap David Moore 127 150 11 22/ 16/ 62 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 127 90 12 23/ 19/ 58 Jinglo John Metcalf 126 1 13 24/ 22/ 54 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 126 32 14 22/ 19/ 59 Test I Ian Oversby 125 133 15 34/ 43/ 23 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 125 352 16 36/ 47/ 16 Iron Gate Wayne Sheppard 125 402 17 22/ 21/ 57 Evoltmp 88 John K W 124 127 18 36/ 49/ 15 ig Wayne Sheppard 124 4 19 31/ 39/ 30 Stillborn Bomber v0.2 mjp 124 17 20 13/ 3/ 84 ]enigma[ Michal Janeczek 123 5 21 0/ 0/ 4 Jinglo John Metcalf 5 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 25 15:56:02 2001 Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCu2W18794 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:56:02 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCpno17893 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:51:50 +0300 (EEST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28193; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106250400.AAA23648@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 06/25/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/25/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Thu Jun 21 07:17:30 EDT 2001 # Name Author Score Age 1 QuiVa John Metcalf 28 174 2 Xord Monominer XOSC:01 Gino Oblena 20 20 3 Pitbull Christian Schmidt 15 37 4 test John Metcalf 13 9 5 fclear Brian Haskin 13 65 6 8thTest Gino Oblena 13 12 7 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 7 81 8 Her Majesty P.Kline 6 100 9 sptst (4D-p) Stefan Foerster 3 1 10 sptst (3D) Stefan Foerster 1 6 11 sptst (5D) Stefan Foerster 1 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jun 25 15:59:23 2001 Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCxNW00842 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:59:23 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.0-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id f5PCxMh15621 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:59:22 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA28169; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106250400.AAA23658@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 06/25/01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 06/25/01 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Jun 22 10:03:41 EDT 2001 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 30/ 18/ 52 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 142 185 2 31/ 22/ 47 Inky Ian Oversby 140 75 3 40/ 40/ 20 Behemot Michal Janeczek 139 419 4 31/ 25/ 44 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 137 358 5 31/ 25/ 44 Revival Fire P.Kline 136 64 6 27/ 19/ 54 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 135 596 7 29/ 24/ 46 Olivia Ben Ford 135 324 8 32/ 30/ 37 Blacken Ian Oversby 134 843 9 38/ 43/ 19 Jinx Christian Schmidt 134 559 10 38/ 42/ 20 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 133 553 11 28/ 24/ 48 AxID Burn Gino Oblena 131 19 12 32/ 33/ 35 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 131 297 13 28/ 26/ 46 Uninvited John Metcalf 130 278 14 19/ 9/ 72 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 129 296 15 37/ 47/ 16 Phantasm 50 Robert Macrae 128 104 16 37/ 46/ 17 G2-b David Moore 127 382 17 24/ 21/ 55 Vain Ian Oversby 127 61 18 25/ 25/ 50 Qtest Christian Schmidt 126 118 19 30/ 46/ 24 test John Metcalf 115 26 20 28/ 42/ 29 Bugtown Rap B 8 Steve Gunnell 114 1 21 13/ 17/ 71 sptst (4D-p) Stefan Foerster 109 0