From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Dec 22 14:32:48 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBMCWlc05615 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:32:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBMCWjQA005222 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:32:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBMCWiG15893 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 14:32:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15461; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:31:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:31:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0212220324.76c72103@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Redcoder's Frency: Round 1 rules and deadline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Multi-Maniac Round | \________________________/ This is the first round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master Rules ----- This round targets especially to newbies/beginners and maybe also to our evolver fraction. It's a multi-warrior round (all entries will load into the core for each round) with a very limited warrior-size (max. 8 instructions) and just a single process (the spl instruction is disallowed). I guess it will be a very close round ;-) pmars -r 2000 -l 8 -d 8 entry1.red entry2.red entry3.red ...... As usual, you can enter either one or two warriors. The homepage of this round, including some more informations is: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/6.htm Deadline -------- Deadline is 25th January, 2003 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Please notify: You have to send for this round your entries to me ----------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck ................................................................ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Dec 23 00:35:29 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBMMZSc14032 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:35:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBMMZQQA003605 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:35:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBMMZOG04789 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 00:35:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19157; Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:34:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:34:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <6d61d212.0212221353.3ff08be5@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: stylinsty@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: stylinsty@yahoo.com (Stylinsty) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: I am a core war freak check out my core wars here Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi I am an AI freak and I love things like Digital Organisms that evolve and compete in the computer. In the past I made a program called Digital Organisms http://www.botbattle.com/computersteve/default.asp?category=Demo96 That puts 300 computers on the screen as pixels whos memory is instructions like move, set flag to true if purple pixel at x,y etc... if flag jump 5 instructions. Well it evolves ones that learn to look out for walls and all that good stuff. Next I made mutants AI shootem up. The shootem up game where the aliens have a language and processor. The language has stuff like if fired at, if I am here... enough commands to create evasion fake outs etc... It is okay but old. I will be doing a new one in Java at www.appletmaker.com So next I decided why not make people program the programs? So at Botbattle.com you can learn to program your own bots in a simple bot language. Now I made botbattlepro.com You program bots in Java to attack others. The question is who can program the smartest bot algorithms? Check it out- www.botbattlepro.com Let me know what you think. Got more time? Try my site www.aifiles.com Thanks and email me if you program Java, C++, Games, Handhelds and more. -Steve From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Dec 23 20:51:07 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIp7c19719 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBNIp5QA009501 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIp4DO014926 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28085; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:49:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212230509.AAA06612@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 12/23/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/23/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Dec 22 17:15:46 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 34/ 21/ 45 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 148 538 2 33/ 21/ 46 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 145 1307 3 35/ 27/ 38 Dark Lowlands II Roy van Rijn 143 18 4 35/ 27/ 39 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 143 64 5 31/ 20/ 48 Poisonous Sting Lukasz Grabun 143 1 6 40/ 39/ 21 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 142 69 7 30/ 18/ 52 Firestorm John Metcalf 141 343 8 31/ 20/ 49 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 141 345 9 25/ 9/ 65 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 141 234 10 28/ 16/ 55 Monolith John Metcalf 140 63 11 28/ 18/ 54 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 139 144 12 26/ 14/ 59 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 138 40 13 29/ 21/ 50 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 137 381 14 44/ 51/ 5 Claw Fizmo 137 275 15 39/ 42/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 136 156 16 39/ 42/ 20 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 135 82 17 31/ 26/ 43 The Stormkeeper Christian Schmidt 135 415 18 40/ 45/ 16 Blade Fizmo 134 624 19 41/ 53/ 6 Willow revised John Metcalf 130 195 20 34/ 46/ 20 stone 2 John Metcalf 121 10 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Dec 23 20:51:54 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIprc19729 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBNIpqQA009585 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIpoDO015026 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:51:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28123; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:51:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:51:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212230506.AAA06559@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 12/23/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/23/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Dec 15 09:54:18 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 50/ 38/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 162 39 2 33/ 24/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 142 71 3 23/ 8/ 70 Denial David Moore 137 80 4 37/ 36/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 137 135 5 22/ 8/ 70 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 136 208 6 35/ 37/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 134 87 7 30/ 25/ 45 Olivia X Ben Ford 134 20 8 33/ 33/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 134 22 9 34/ 34/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 139 10 27/ 22/ 51 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 133 161 11 25/ 18/ 58 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 79 12 32/ 32/ 36 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 132 68 13 29/ 28/ 42 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 130 78 14 21/ 13/ 66 Kin John Metcalf 130 47 15 24/ 19/ 57 Glenstorm John Metcalf 128 1 16 32/ 39/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 125 34 17 14/ 7/ 78 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 122 156 18 14/ 7/ 78 Black Box v1.1 JKW 121 102 19 28/ 40/ 32 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 116 4 20 32/ 51/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 113 99 21 10/ 60/ 30 Monolith John Metcalf 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Dec 23 20:53:14 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIrEc31760 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:53:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBNIrCQA009729 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:53:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIrBDO015247 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:53:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28190; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:52:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:52:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212230503.AAA06522@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 12/23/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/23/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Dec 21 17:13:56 EST 2002 # Name Author Score Age 1 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 29 19 2 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 28 130 3 fclear Brian Haskin 27 114 4 Bicarb Test F 14 Steve Gunnell 15 2 5 trial John Metcalf 12 34 6 Vamp test John Metcalf 11 18 7 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 10 42 8 stone John Metcalf 10 1 9 QuestIn Time Philip Thorne 9 20 10 Her Majesty P.Kline 6 149 11 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 4 12 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Dec 23 20:54:40 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIsdc06988 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:54:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBNIscQA009853 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:54:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBNIsbG04673 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 20:54:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28248; Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:54:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:54:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212230500.AAA06470@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 12/23/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/23/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Dec 20 05:24:16 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 149 170 3 34/ 22/ 44 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 147 109 4 34/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 147 169 5 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 144 4 6 34/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 142 127 7 41/ 41/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 1 8 36/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 140 92 9 44/ 48/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 8 10 29/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 138 226 11 40/ 43/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 137 63 12 36/ 36/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 137 56 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 125 14 41/ 46/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 207 15 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 135 166 16 27/ 19/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 135 183 17 38/ 41/ 21 PacMan David Moore 135 199 18 38/ 45/ 18 Stasis David Moore 131 277 19 37/ 45/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 24 16:34:29 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBOEYTc27255 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:34:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBOEYRQA027431 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:34:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBOEYPDO022946 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:34:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07861; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:34:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:34:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Merry Christmas to all of you, guys X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:25:42 +0000 (UTC), Lukasz Grabun wrote: > In this particular time of love and piece it's not welcome to chat ^^^^^ I did not mean `piece' of cake. But rather `cake of peace' :-) Me and my linguistic skills. Yuck. ;-D -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 24 16:36:16 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBOEaFc07708 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:36:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBOEaEQA027588 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:36:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBOEaDG14198 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 16:36:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA07903; Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:35:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:35:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Merry Christmas to all of you, guys X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In this particular time of love and piece it's not welcome to chat 'bout bombing, clears, vampires, imp-killers and things (do you know that standard google banners that appear while browsing the newsgroup are about terrorisms, bombs and other things :-). No wonder we have been banned. To the main points: I wish you guys peacuful and joyful time with your beloved, families. Enjoy presents you are going to get, be kind to all you meet... Well, enough is enough is enough. Merry Christmas, in a nutshell :-) -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Dec 26 00:34:09 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBPMY9c25320 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:34:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBPMY7QA007901 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:34:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBPMY6G08565 for ; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 00:34:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20801; Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:33:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:33:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Optima number finder in redcode X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > > What's an efficient linkage scheme that doesn't presume to know > > where the stacks are located in core? > You could do what I did in "Her Majesty" and "The Queen's Guards" on > the multi-warrior hill. Each of the Guards had a long dat-tail You don't have to worry about being attacked while linking so I'd suggest that the master routine does a linear scan to locate the first word of each module while these wait, storing call and return offsets in shared P-space. First word can code for the content of the module. Linkage overhead should be something like 1 word per module and 10-15 in the master. Calls and returns should take 2-3 words? Robert From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Dec 27 02:31:23 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBR0VMc03960 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:31:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBR0VKQA007197 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:31:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBR0VIDO013626 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:31:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01366; Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:30:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:30:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Compile pMars 0.9.2 under DJGPP 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: A Hi, and merry Christmas.. Sitting here with lot's of free time i want to do some Hacking's on the pMars 0.9.2 - Source...Compiling under Linux Full or Server-Version...no Problem But under Windows with Djgpp 2.0 only the Server-Version will Compile. The grx-Library 2.45 is Installed and Compiled, the lib is also Copied to ..djgpp\lib and the makefile.djg is changed to the lib.. But something gone wrong...If there is somebody who have already compiled it. i will be very happy if he can help me to compile it with -DGRAPHX... Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Dec 27 07:33:38 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBR5Xcc27806 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:33:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBR5XaQA027376 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:33:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBR5XZG03547 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:33:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA03298; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:33:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: Mike_Bohr@gmx.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "mike 'pwAIn' Bohr" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: I like to lern corewars/redcode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Can someone tell me where I can get a easy Tutorial for corewars/redcode? with google I didn't found any usefull thing... thx mike From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Dec 27 14:38:59 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBRCcwc02661 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:38:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBRCcuQA017725 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:38:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBRCctG16252 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:38:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA07135; Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:34:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:34:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4ee41bd6.0212270335.4b3cbb69@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: waknuk@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: waknuk@yahoo.com (Philip Thorne) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: I like to lern corewars/redcode Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: mike 'pwAIn' Bohr wrote in message news:... > Can someone tell me where I can get a easy Tutorial for corewars/redcode? > with google I didn't found any usefull thing... > > thx > > mike I recommend Ilmari's Beginner's Guide to Redcode: http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/corewar/ Also great are the Push Off and CoreWarrior ezines - you can find copies at many places including via google e.g. http://www.firetrench.com/corewar/ has many such docs in pdf form. There's a Beginner's hill with viewable warrior code at http://corewars.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/control.py?hill=rcbeginner&action=showhill The primary resource for all things corewar related is http://koth.org Philb From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Dec 29 00:26:36 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBSMQZc14944 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:26:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBSMQXQA012567 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:26:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBSMQWDO026113 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:26:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20389; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:26:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:26:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Compile pMars 0.9.2 under DJGPP 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Sascha Zapf wrote: > But under Windows with Djgpp 2.0 only the Server-Version will Compile. > > The grx-Library 2.45 is Installed and Compiled, the lib is also Copied > to ..djgpp\lib and the makefile.djg is changed to the lib.. Without more information, I'd suspect interface rot in the pmars source; the grx version was developed a *long* time ago (by net standards anyhoo), and the grx API might have evolved. Just a thought. Could be nothing. Joonas From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Dec 29 00:34:05 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBSMY4c00754 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:34:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBSMY2QA012999 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:34:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBSMY1G23580 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:34:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20540; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:33:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:33:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Compile pMars 0.9.2 under DJGPP 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: A nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) wrote in message news:... > Hi, and merry Christmas.. > > Sitting here with lot's of free time i want to do some Hacking's on > the pMars 0.9.2 - Source...Compiling under Linux Full or > Server-Version...no Problem > > But under Windows with Djgpp 2.0 only the Server-Version will Compile. > > The grx-Library 2.45 is Installed and Compiled, the lib is also Copied > to ..djgpp\lib and the makefile.djg is changed to the lib.. > > But something gone wrong...If there is somebody who have already > compiled it. i will be very happy if he can help me to compile it with > -DGRAPHX... > > Sascha Here are Compiler output's some People asked for.. ( Sorry, but they are not Complete, but i don't know how to use Pipes or so under Windows.. union grxdisp.c:264: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:267: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:272: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:274: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:278: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:280: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:282: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:285: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:293: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union In file included from sim.c:73: grxdisp.c: In function `write_names': grxdisp.c:301: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:304: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c: In function `open_graphics': grxdisp.c:353: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast grxdisp.c:356: request for member `txo_font' in something not a structure or uni on grxdisp.c:357: request for member `txo_xalign' in something not a structure or u nion grxdisp.c:357: `GR_ALIGN_LEFT' undeclared (first use in this function) grxdisp.c:358: request for member `txo_yalign' in something not a structure or u nion grxdisp.c:358: `GR_ALIGN_TOP' undeclared (first use in this function) grxdisp.c:359: request for member `txo_xmag' in something not a structure or uni on grxdisp.c:360: request for member `txo_ymag' in something not a structure or uni on grxdisp.c:361: request for member `txo_direct' in something not a structure or u nion grxdisp.c:361: `GR_TEXT_RIGHT' undeclared (first use in this function) grxdisp.c:362: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:363: request for member `txo_bgcolor' in something not a structure or union grxdisp.c:382: request for member `txo_fgcolor' in something not a structure or union make.exe: *** [sim.o] Error 1 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 31 01:46:17 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkGc32088 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBUNkEQA007001 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkCDO019293 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10928; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:45:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:45:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212300509.AAA24673@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 12/30/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/30/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Dec 29 13:35:15 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 39/ 39/ 21 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 140 2 2 30/ 22/ 48 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 138 1317 3 31/ 24/ 45 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 138 548 4 38/ 41/ 21 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 135 79 5 37/ 40/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 134 1 6 26/ 18/ 56 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 133 154 7 23/ 14/ 63 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 133 50 8 31/ 31/ 38 Dark Lowlands II Roy van Rijn 132 28 9 31/ 30/ 39 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 132 74 10 28/ 24/ 47 Test5 Lukasz Grabun 132 6 11 27/ 22/ 51 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 131 355 12 20/ 10/ 70 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 130 244 13 25/ 21/ 53 Firestorm John Metcalf 130 353 14 25/ 22/ 53 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 129 391 15 37/ 45/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 128 166 16 23/ 19/ 58 Monolith John Metcalf 128 73 17 28/ 29/ 44 The Stormkeeper Christian Schmidt 127 425 18 36/ 45/ 19 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 127 92 19 40/ 54/ 5 Claw Fizmo 127 285 20 37/ 48/ 16 Blade Fizmo 126 634 21 40/ 54/ 6 Willow revised John Metcalf 125 205 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 31 01:46:38 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkbc08415 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBUNkZQA007035 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkYDO019320 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10955; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212300506.AAA24642@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 12/30/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/30/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Dec 15 09:54:18 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 50/ 38/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 162 39 2 33/ 24/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 142 71 3 23/ 8/ 70 Denial David Moore 137 80 4 37/ 36/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 137 135 5 22/ 8/ 70 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 136 208 6 35/ 37/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 134 87 7 30/ 25/ 45 Olivia X Ben Ford 134 20 8 33/ 33/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 134 22 9 34/ 34/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 139 10 27/ 22/ 51 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 133 161 11 25/ 18/ 58 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 79 12 32/ 32/ 36 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 132 68 13 29/ 28/ 42 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 130 78 14 21/ 13/ 66 Kin John Metcalf 130 47 15 24/ 19/ 57 Glenstorm John Metcalf 128 1 16 32/ 39/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 125 34 17 14/ 7/ 78 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 122 156 18 14/ 7/ 78 Black Box v1.1 JKW 121 102 19 28/ 40/ 32 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 116 4 20 32/ 51/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 113 99 21 10/ 60/ 30 Monolith John Metcalf 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 31 01:46:39 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkcc11058 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBUNkaQA007039 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkZG03982 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10980; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212300503.AAA24581@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 12/30/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/30/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Dec 29 17:57:52 EST 2002 # Name Author Score Age 1 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 16 148 2 Vamp test John Metcalf 16 36 3 trial John Metcalf 13 52 4 Mr Sheen Test E 14 Steve Gunnell 13 1 5 QuestIn Time Philip Thorne 12 38 6 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 11 37 7 fclear Brian Haskin 9 132 8 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 8 60 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 4 167 10 iTest John Metcalf 2 2 11 Mr Sheen Test E 14 Steve Gunnell 0 3 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Dec 31 01:46:39 2002 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkcc24861 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id gBUNkaQA007040 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id gBUNkZG03983 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:46:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11009; Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:46:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212300500.AAA24544@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 12/30/02 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 12/30/02 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Dec 20 05:24:16 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 149 170 3 34/ 22/ 44 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 147 109 4 34/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 147 169 5 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 144 4 6 34/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 142 127 7 41/ 41/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 1 8 36/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 140 92 9 44/ 48/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 8 10 29/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 138 226 11 40/ 43/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 137 63 12 36/ 36/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 137 56 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 125 14 41/ 46/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 207 15 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 135 166 16 27/ 19/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 135 183 17 38/ 41/ 21 PacMan David Moore 135 199 18 38/ 45/ 18 Stasis David Moore 131 277 19 37/ 45/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 2 00:33:17 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h01MXHA26834 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:33:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h01MXEQA011241 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:33:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h01MX8DO011254 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 00:33:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01615; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:32:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:32:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Compile pMars 0.9.2 under DJGPP 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: M Joonas Pihlaja wrote in message news:... > On Thu, 26 Dec 2002, Sascha Zapf wrote: > > > But under Windows with Djgpp 2.0 only the Server-Version will Compile. > > > > The grx-Library 2.45 is Installed and Compiled, the lib is also Copied > > to ..djgpp\lib and the makefile.djg is changed to the lib.. > > Without more information, I'd suspect interface rot in the pmars > source; the grx version was developed a *long* time ago (by net > standards anyhoo), and the grx API might have evolved. Just a > thought. Could be nothing. > > Joonas Yes, there were only some changes to do in 'grxdisp.c'. I think new naming konventions in the GRX-Source Codes and some new struct's...Now the 0.9.2 Compiles fine under DJGPP2 and GRX 2.45. ( A Graphical DOS-Version ) In some Day i will published this patch, but i the Moment i have not enough Time because of the Deadline at 11th jan. Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 7 01:31:55 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NVsA30787 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:31:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h06NVrQA025670 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:31:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NVnDO018588 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:31:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19716; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:28:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301060509.AAA08611@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 01/06/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/06/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jan 5 18:21:19 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 41/ 36/ 23 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 146 103 2 34/ 22/ 44 Bitter Sweet Lukasz Grabun 146 1 3 31/ 21/ 48 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 142 1341 4 39/ 38/ 23 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 140 26 5 29/ 19/ 52 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 139 379 6 31/ 23/ 46 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 139 572 7 27/ 15/ 58 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 138 178 8 25/ 11/ 64 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 138 74 9 37/ 38/ 25 Driftwood John Metcalf 137 25 10 38/ 39/ 23 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 137 190 11 42/ 49/ 9 Claw Fizmo 136 309 12 21/ 7/ 72 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 135 268 13 38/ 41/ 22 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 135 116 14 24/ 15/ 61 test Christian Schmidt 134 10 15 31/ 28/ 41 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 134 98 16 26/ 19/ 55 Firestorm John Metcalf 133 377 17 26/ 21/ 53 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 131 415 18 28/ 28/ 44 The Stormkeeper Christian Schmidt 128 449 19 33/ 42/ 25 test mj 124 18 20 16/ 10/ 74 Humpty Dumpty John Metcalf 121 6 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 7 01:33:07 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NX7A03843 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:33:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h06NX5QA025862 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:33:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NX4DO018741 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:33:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19783; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:29:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301060503.AAA08554@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 01/06/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/06/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Jan 4 22:15:23 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 19 72 2 QuestIn Time Philip Thorne 17 50 3 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 14 160 4 trial John Metcalf 14 64 5 fclear Brian Haskin 12 144 6 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 10 49 7 Mr Sheen Test E 13 Steve Gunnell 10 1 8 Vamp test John Metcalf 8 48 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 7 179 10 iTest John Metcalf 4 14 11 Mr Sheen Test E 11 Steve Gunnell 0 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 7 01:36:46 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NajA09280 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:36:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h06NahQA026266 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:36:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NagDO019035 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:36:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19815; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:30:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:30:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301060500.AAA08524@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 01/06/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/06/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Dec 20 05:24:16 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 149 170 3 34/ 22/ 44 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 147 109 4 34/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 147 169 5 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 144 4 6 34/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 142 127 7 41/ 41/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 1 8 36/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 140 92 9 44/ 48/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 8 10 29/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 138 226 11 40/ 43/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 137 63 12 36/ 36/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 137 56 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 125 14 41/ 46/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 207 15 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 135 166 16 27/ 19/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 135 183 17 38/ 41/ 21 PacMan David Moore 135 199 18 38/ 45/ 18 Stasis David Moore 131 277 19 37/ 45/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 7 01:40:15 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NeFA04310 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:40:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h06NeDQA026613 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:40:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h06NeCDO019329 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:40:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA19756; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:29:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:29:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301060506.AAA08583@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 01/06/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/06/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Wed Jan 1 17:37:19 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 48/ 40/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 156 40 2 32/ 24/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 139 72 3 21/ 9/ 70 Denial David Moore 133 81 4 25/ 18/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 80 5 35/ 38/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 132 136 6 22/ 13/ 65 Kin John Metcalf 132 48 7 20/ 9/ 72 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 131 209 8 33/ 34/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 131 23 9 28/ 26/ 46 Olivia X Ben Ford 129 21 10 24/ 20/ 56 Glenstorm John Metcalf 129 2 11 32/ 36/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 128 140 12 30/ 33/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 128 69 13 33/ 38/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 128 88 14 25/ 24/ 51 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 127 162 15 28/ 30/ 43 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 126 79 16 31/ 41/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 121 35 17 14/ 7/ 79 Black Box v1.1 JKW 120 103 18 29/ 37/ 34 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 120 1 19 14/ 7/ 79 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 120 157 20 27/ 42/ 31 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 113 5 21 31/ 51/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 110 100 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 8 02:33:14 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h080XEA17529 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:33:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h080XBQA008451 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:33:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h080XAxM009287 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:33:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00406; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:32:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:32:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2f39c3bd.0301071530.62cde052@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nathanleoh@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nathanleoh@hotmail.com (Paradox) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Kewl Online Gangster Game Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: It's a kewl online mafia game called Outwar. You make make money to buy weapons and fight other people's gangs, it's really kewl. It might be a little too simplistic for some of you, but the gang wars are so fun! You gotta check it out: http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=228302 From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 10 21:31:09 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0AJV8A23765 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:31:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0AJV5QA015218 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:31:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0AJV4fu004475 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:31:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27030; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:30:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:30:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e1f1891$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: corewar@tiscali.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "John Metcalf" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Round 5 Reminder X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: The deadline for round 5 is 23:59 (GMT) on Sat 11 Jan. You are allowed to enter either one or two warriors. The ADD and SUB instructions are not allowed. Regards, John From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jan 11 19:33:05 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0BHX4A04156 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:33:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0BHX2QA012994 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:33:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0BHX0fu012001 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:33:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06220; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:32:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:32:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: barry@cook25kings.freeserve.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Barry Cook" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Q-scans X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, just a (hopefully quick) question: Exactly what's a Q^n-scan? I think I know what a quick scan is - a string of sne, seq, add...jmn instructions - but I've seen people talking about Q^2 and Q^4 -scans and I'd like to know what they are. Barry ps slightly late happy new year wishes. -- Don't do what you can't undo until you know what you can't do once you've done it. Give a man a fire and he's warm for the night, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 00:33:29 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0BMXSA29159 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:33:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0BMXQQA013776 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:33:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0BMXPY07079 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 00:33:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA07978; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:32:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:32:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1042319402.7641@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Barry Cook wrote: >Hi all, just a (hopefully quick) question: > >Exactly what's a Q^n-scan? I think I know what a quick scan is - a string >of sne, seq, add...jmn instructions - but I've seen people talking about Q^2 >and Q^4 -scans and I'd like to know what they are. They're all quickscans, some just are quicker than others. :-) Basically, Q^2 was a way to make a quickscan that wasted a lot less cycles between the scan and the attack. Q^3 was an improvement on that, then Q^4 on that... The original Q^2 scan by Anders Ivner can be found in Core Warrior #37: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SOL.3.91.960707192316.1274A-100000%40regent.comp.vuw.ac.nz Q^3 was described in Core Warrior #73: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.10.9905281151460.6345-100000%40xanther.digitald.uk.com And the latest Core Warrior, #84, describes what we know as Q^4: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3dff8c1f_2%40mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com You might also want to read this explanation: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/jpihlaja/cw/qscaninfo.txt -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ "Disconnected; connection lost (The connection has been lost.)." -- F-Secure SSH client error message From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 05:58:19 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0C3wIA12622 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0C3wGQA010468 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0C3wAfu000676 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09925; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:57:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:57:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301112207.53825.nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Am Samstag, 11. Januar 2003 18:32 schrieb Barry Cook: > Hi all, just a (hopefully quick) question: > > Exactly what's a Q^n-scan? I think I know what a quick scan is - a string > of sne, seq, add...jmn instructions - but I've seen people talking about > Q^2 and Q^4 -scans and I'd like to know what they are. > > Barry > > ps slightly late happy new year wishes. The best is that you get four Warrior's Quick, Q^2, Q^3 and Q^4 Assemble them and print the Listings. Now you can compare. But a short explanation. Quickscanner ( sne, seq, mov/add ... jmn ) losing some time because it late when they "know" someone is found Q^2 ( seq, jmp ) Using B-field of jmp for maniuliation of Datapointer. Q^3 ( using more math to decode Pointer... Q^4 ( more compactet because sne/seq/jmn ) Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 05:58:29 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0C3wTA26268 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0C3wRQA010483 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0C3wQY18654 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 05:58:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA09950; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:58:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:58:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030111194046.31190.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Barry Cook wrote: > Hi all, just a (hopefully quick) question: > > Exactly what's a Q^n-scan? I think I know what a > quick scan is - a string > of sne, seq, add...jmn instructions - but I've seen > people talking about Q^2 > and Q^4 -scans and I'd like to know what they are. Q^n are Normal QScans on the scanning part; the aprt that changes is the decoding module. The higher the n, the faster the decode cycle. It's basically like a Version numbering for the decodding algorithm. OT: where does the first quote in your signature come from? I know i've seen it somewhere else, but I can't remmeber where. (the one that follows) > -- > Don't do what you can't undo until you know what you > can't do once you've > done it. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 13:35:25 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CBZOA31234 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:35:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CBZMQA019303 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:35:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CBZFfu005834 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:35:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14136; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 06:34:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 06:34:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e214111$0$29946$626a54ce@news.free.fr> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kal.zakath@laposte.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Zakath" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Best book to learn redcode ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Everything is in the title... Zakath -- L'éternité, c'est long, surtout vers la fin. Robert Beauvais From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 14:35:32 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CCZVA21014 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:35:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CCZTQA027366 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:35:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CCZSY06638 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:35:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA14574; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:35:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:35:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87iswu6301.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Best book to learn redcode ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Zakath" writes: > Everything is in the title... First of all, don't put what you want to write in the messages's subject line. It is not nice. As for the books 'bout redcode -- redcode is itself very easy to learn while it is hard to write a succesfull program using the language. I think that the best choice is first to look at Ilmari's tutorial and then read all CoreWarrior issues. That is what I did months ago. -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 17:29:50 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CFToA18188 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:29:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CFTmQA020120 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:29:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CFTlY12644 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 17:29:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15678; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:29:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:29:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Win32 pMARS alpha release up for testing. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: An alpha-testing version of pmars for Win32 is available at http://www.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/pmars-win32-sdl/ Get both files pmars.exe and SDL.dll, and put them into the same directory. Usage should be exactly the same as the various versions of pmarv.exe. If you'd like to give it a spin and report any problems or grievances you have, I'd appreciate it muchly. I also take feature requests. Regards, Joonas P.S. Please try different display modes (middle number for -v option). From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Jan 12 20:30:08 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CIU8A08856 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:30:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CIU6QA016902 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:30:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CIU5Y20022 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 20:30:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA16787; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:29:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 13:29:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5d6847b2.0301120950.5cff888f@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dhillismail@netscape.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: dhillismail@netscape.net (Dave Hillis) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Best book to learn redcode ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Zakath" wrote in message news:<3e214111$0$29946$626a54ce@news.free.fr>... > Everything is in the title... > > Zakath Hi. You will find a lot of good material here. http://www.firetrench.com/corewar/ It's a challenging game to learn but rewarding to those who do. New players are very welcome. Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 13 01:19:19 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CNJIA21115 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:19:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0CNJGQA026419 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:19:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0CNJFfu002709 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:19:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18543; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:18:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:18:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030112212650.41114.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Win32 pMARS alpha release up for testing. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- M Joonas Pihlaja wrote: > > An alpha-testing version of pmars for Win32 is > available at > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/pmars-win32-sdl/ [snip] Thank you! I'm not home, and still orkin on a 8-line vampire, so i definitely WILL use this. BTW, i went through te stuff you had on your home directory... And THEN i realized some of it seemed to be private email, as opposed to ng postings. I hope you don't mind :| Paul Khuong __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 13 02:31:40 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0D0VdA11830 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:31:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0D0VcQA004004 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:31:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0D0Vafu008528 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:31:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA19071; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:31:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:31:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87u1get0w1.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Pixie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Pixie is an example of classical stone/imp warrior. Nothing new, nothing old. The stone I used is derived from Skew Dwarf by Moore but I do miss the djn line and enter the clear sooner. Just a cannon fodder for Bitter Sweet :-) Source is written in Ford's way. ;-) ;redcode-94nop ;author Lukasz Grabun ;name Pixie ;strategy Q^4 -> Stone/Imp ;assert (CORESIZE==8000) ; -- origin of code orig z for 0 rof ; -- stone constants sStp equ (107) ; sFst equ (-115-1) ; first bomb is thrown here sHop equ (6916+1) ; offset between bombs thrown in one loop sGat equ (sHop+sMov-1) ; gate is formed here sDjn equ (5500) ; start of djn stream sBo1 equ (3467+orig) ; stone offset sOff equ (6) ; offset between stone and bomb sBo2 equ (sBo1+sOff) ; sBmb equ (sRck+sOff) ; ; -- imp constants iStp equ (2667) ; 3-point imps iSDc equ (-iStp-1) ; iHp1 equ (iImp-2*(iStp+1)) ; iHp2 equ (iImp+2*iStp-1) ; iBoo equ (3818+5+orig) ; imp launcher offset ; -- qscan constants qX equ 6468 qA equ 3320 qB equ 1123 qC equ 6352 qD equ 4155 qE equ 1958 qF equ 2913 qStep equ 7 qTime equ 16 qOff equ 87 qBmb dat {qOff , # qF ; -- imp launcher iPmp spl #iImp , #sSrc sub.f #iSDc , iJmp mov iImp , }iPmp iJmp jmp iHp1 , >iHp2 iImp mov.i # 0 , iStp ; -- stone sSrc spl #sRck , 1 ; -- boot code bBoo mov sRck , sBo2 spl } 2 , } qC qTab2 spl * 1 , } qD spl 0 , } qE mov {sSrc , {qTab1 ; boot stone mov ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0DJYFQA017038 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DJYEY08603 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27254; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:33:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:33:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e23043b$0$253$626a54ce@news.free.fr> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kal.zakath@laposte.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Zakath" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Some silly questions from a newbie X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hello, I am just beginning to learn redcode and some questions popped into my mind. I don't think that either Ilmari's tutorial or the original Dawndey paper answered them, so : -What happens if my last instruction is, for example, JMP 5 and there is no instruction at the adress 5 ??? Is this the same thing as a DAT ? Does it kill the warrior ? -If I split my pointer into, say, five differents instances, and that an opponent kills one of them, has my warrior lost ? -Where could I find *very* detailed commented warriors ? -I am running Win XP, and pmars does not work (it displays the black msdos screen for half a second and closes). Has anyone the same problem ? What could I do ? Thanks in advance Zakath -- L'éternité, c'est long, surtout vers la fin. Robert Beauvais From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 13 21:34:47 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DJYlA24447 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0DJYjQA017143 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DJYhfu008422 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27235; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:32:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 14:32:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e230493$0$235$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Win32 pMARS alpha release up for testing. X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > An alpha-testing version of pmars for Win32 is available at > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/pmars-win32-sdl/ Goody goody goody 8-) Robert From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 13 22:34:32 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DKYVA28837 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:34:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0DKYTQA000224 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:34:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DKYSfu019388 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:34:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA28089; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:34:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1bEU9.8830$5z3.2042857714@hebe.telenet-ops.be> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: slavearc@KUTZOPpandora.be Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Harbinger Of Doom" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Some silly questions from a newbie X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Zakath" schreef in bericht news:3e23043b$0$253$626a54ce@news.free.fr... > Hello, > I am just beginning to learn redcode and some questions popped into my mind. > I don't think that either Ilmari's tutorial or the original Dawndey paper > answered them, so : > > -What happens if my last instruction is, for example, JMP 5 and there is no > instruction at the adress 5 ??? Is this the same thing as a DAT ? Does it > kill the warrior ? Yep, At the start of the game, the core is loaded with Dat 0,0 so if you jump on an "empty" spot, you actually jump onto a Dat 0,0 so your warrior will die > -If I split my pointer into, say, five differents instances, and that an > opponent kills one of them, has my warrior lost ? not sure on this one, but I think that your warrior keeps on living until al threads are killed. not sure though. > -Where could I find *very* detailed commented warriors ? NOID, sorry > -I am running Win XP, and pmars does not work (it displays the black msdos > screen for half a second and closes). Has anyone the same problem ? What > could I do ? I have XP too, you have to get your hands on pmarsv instead of the regular pmars. then you open up your command window and pres alt+enter. That way, your shell will be in fullscreen-mode. from there, just navigate to the appropriate directory, and fire up pmarsv :-) you can download pmarsv at http://www.koth.org/pmars/ . download the first file (pmars for win95,98,NT) that one works on xp. > > Thanks in advance no problem :-) > > Zakath > > -- > L'éternité, c'est long, surtout vers la fin. > Robert Beauvais Greetz, HoD From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 14 01:36:39 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DNacA21231 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:36:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0DNabQA000243 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:36:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0DNaaY22036 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:36:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29315; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:34:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:34:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1042484383.15097@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Some silly questions from a newbie X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article <3e23043b$0$253$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, Zakath wrote: > >I am just beginning to learn redcode and some questions popped into my mind. >I don't think that either Ilmari's tutorial or the original Dawndey paper >answered them, so : Well, let me try to fill in if I've missed something... Please note that the redcode decribed by Dewdney, particularly the earliest versions, is quite a lot different from modern redcode, which my tutorial attempts to describe. >-What happens if my last instruction is, for example, JMP 5 and there is no >instruction at the adress 5 ??? Is this the same thing as a DAT ? Does it >kill the warrior ? Yes. (Or rather, it kills the process. See next question.) Addresses which don't contain any other instruction are set to "DAT 0,0". >-If I split my pointer into, say, five differents instances, and that an >opponent kills one of them, has my warrior lost ? No. Only when all your processes have been killed will your warrior lose the battle. >-Where could I find *very* detailed commented warriors ? http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/ For _really_ detailed comments, you should take a look at the back issues of Core Warrior, but many of the warriors in the archive (further down the page) also come with comments. Here, BTW, are the last 5 Core Warrior issues not yet archived at the address given above: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=core-warrior+2002+group:rec.*+-insubject:re&scoring=d -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ "I am now enlightened, my life has been improved, and I feel no need to rush out and buy a multimeter, as I have no use whatsoever for it." -- Kouros in alt.humor.best-of-usenet.d From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 14 17:30:56 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0EFUtA06684 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:30:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0EFUrQA007066 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:30:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0EFUqY17038 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 17:30:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA06732; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:30:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:30:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0301140659.492cc09a@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Some silly questions from a newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, > Here, BTW, are the last 5 Core Warrior issues not yet archived at the > address given above: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=core-warrior+2002+group:rec.*+-insubject:re&scoring=d Here you can find all issues of Core Warrior: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/corewarrior/corewarrior.htm Usefull informations and links relating to corewar can be found here: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/ Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 16 08:35:29 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0G6ZSA07097 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:35:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0G6ZQQA008058 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:35:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0G6ZPY28217 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:35:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA22538; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:35:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 01:35:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3c9a7a49.0301152122.6b23e1f4@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: Matt_Oberdorfer@engineeredintelligence.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Matt_Oberdorfer@engineeredintelligence.com (GridWars) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: HP sponsors GRIDWARS Championship - Prizes announced Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hewlett-Packard is sponsoring the GRIDWARS parallel programming challenge with prizes and systems. In GRIDWARS participating developers submit CxC battle programs that will fight against each other for control of parallel processors. The GRID WARS Championship takes place in February on an HP Intel® Itanium® 2 cluster computing system running Linux. The battle programs are developed on a cellular automata under Windows. The HP-sponsored prizes include an iPAQ Pocket PC, photosmart digital camera, and all-in-one printer. The deadline for submissions is the February 14th. More Info: http://www.gridwars.com GRIDWARS was created by Engineered Intelligence Corporation to amplify interest and enthusiasm in parallel programming using CxC. The basis for Grid Wars is a two-dimensional grid of fully functional virtual parallel processors. Each processor is connected to its eight surrounding neighbors and all processors run concurrently. In the beginning, competitors' battle programs (written in the parallel programming language CxC) are each placed on one randomly-selected processor in the grid. Based on simple rules for winning "battles" for control of the processors, each battle program can spread across the grid onto an increasing number of processors. Each occupied processor runs the battle program in parallel. Every time a competing program takes over a new processor, its power increases. When encountering an enemy, battle programs fight against each other to finally take over the opponent's processor. The program that conquers all processors in the grid is the winner of the round. Those interested in parallel programming – including scientists, engineers, and software developers – can download the GRID WARS creation and training software from the web site www.gridwars.com to easily build battle programs and compete. The site also contains details and further information about rules and conditions for the GRID WARS qualification event and the championship. GRID WARS will also be promoted in HP's booth (#822) at LinuxWorld in New York City, Jan. 21-24. From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 16 19:30:06 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0GHU5A18897 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:30:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0GHU3QA016104 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:30:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0GHU2Y14225 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:30:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA27711; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:29:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:29:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Fuse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: A Hi, can someone me explain what the meaning of 'fuse', I have seen it in two Warrior, both are handlich with Imp-Spiral. In the Comment's is Text like "...with are very short Fuse.." or .launch with kill fuse" Debugging is useful, but i can't image for what i must look, Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 05:13:56 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3DuA22926 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0H3DsQA001962 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3DqY18032 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01610; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030116181401.69715.qmail@web41508.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Fuse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Sascha Zapf wrote: > Hi, > > can someone me explain what the meaning of 'fuse', > > I have seen it in two Warrior, both are handlich > with Imp-Spiral. [snip] I'm not sure which warriors you're talking about, but a problem with stone/imp, especially those with infinite launchers, is that the spiral has too many processes (VS the stone) early in the game. Alternatively, an infinite launcher might also feed too many processes to the spiral after a while. We all know what a fuse is in RL, so, i guess in the context you are interested in, it's either a djn to let the stone pump some processes before starting the spiral, or a way to kill the infinite imp-launcher after a certain amount of time(usually, bombing the launcher works just fine :) Paul Khuong __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 05:14:00 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3E0A00002 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:14:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0H3DwQA001976 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3DvY18037 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01633; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Fuse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Sascha Zapf wrote: > can someone me explain what the meaning of 'fuse', > I have seen it in two Warrior, both are handlich with Imp-Spiral. When warriors have an "imp pump" in them, the pump is often killed after some time so that it doesn't generate too many imp processes. Whatever parameter that controls how many cycles the pump is allowed to pump is the fuse. > Debugging is useful, but i can't image for what i must look, So, look out for the main warrior killing the imp pump. Joonas (P.S. Sascha: apologies if you get this twice.) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 05:14:03 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3E3A08091 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:14:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0H3E0QA001977 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:14:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H3Dwfu021088 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:13:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01659; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:13:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301162129.15713.steveg58@iinet.net.au> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: steveg58@iinet.net.au Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Steve Gunnell To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoder's Frency: Round 1 rules and deadline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Is it possible for this deadline to be extended. This is way to close to the last round of John's competition. > > Deadline is 25th January, 2003 > Steve Gunnell From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 10:33:14 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H8XEA14717 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:33:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0H8XCQA017056 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:33:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0H8XBY05336 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:33:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA05477; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 03:32:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 03:32:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: pMARS SDL port Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Dear RedCoder, I've updated the SDL port of pMARS, and it now has a home page: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/cw/pmars-sdl/ There you'll find both Win32 executables (and .dll, but you don't need to redownload that if you have it from the first alpha testing version), and the sources needed to compile it on unixish systems. New features: The text display is a lot faster so that cdb is actually useable; Command line history (using Shift-Up and Shift-Down); somewhat saner key handling (at least on X11, not sure about windows.) As always, bug reports and feature requests are most welcome. Regards, Joonas From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 14:39:13 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HCdCA13400 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:39:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HCZHQA025892 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:35:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HCZGfu014975 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:35:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06938; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:33:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:33:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: slavearc@KUTZOPpandora.be Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Harbinger Of Doom" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: GRIDWARS and Football X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Robert Macrae" schreef in bericht news:3e27e494$0$237$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com... > > > Hewlett-Packard is sponsoring the GRIDWARS parallel programming > > challenge with prizes and systems. > > Reminds me of an old competition to write AI for a virtual football team. > Anyone know what became of that? > > Robert > Yeah, the footballplayers were just too smart. no one could win from them, so the game didn't sell well. They then wanted to replace the virtual players with a little less intelligent players. Unfortunately, the virtual players refused to quit their job, they really liked winning. So the company hired a hitman to get rid of them. But once again, the players were too smart, they knew about the hitman, and lured him into an ambush. The poor man was never found. Just disappeared off of the face of the earth. The players were then fed up with everyone trying to kill or fire them, so they started building a spaceship. It was completed a week or two later. Then they just took off to a far away planet to start their own civilisation. No one ever heard or saw them again, but some believe that they will be back one day to take their revenge. .......... Or at least that's what I heard :-) greetz, HoD From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 15:29:13 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HDTCA27001 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:29:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HDTAQA022811 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:29:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HDT9Y25398 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:29:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07449; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:27:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:27:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030117093351.17967.qmail@web21101.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: varfar@yahoo.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?q?will?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: pMARS SDL port MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: very cool, win32 works for me :-D /Will __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 16:26:16 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HEQFA05088 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:26:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HCZUQA026007 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:35:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HCZSfu015056 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:35:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA06919; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:33:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:33:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e27e494$0$237$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: GRIDWARS and Football X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Hewlett-Packard is sponsoring the GRIDWARS parallel programming > challenge with prizes and systems. Reminds me of an old competition to write AI for a virtual football team. Anyone know what became of that? Robert From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 23:35:25 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HLZOA04656 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:35:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HLZMQA022926 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:35:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HLZLY21740 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:35:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10797; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:34:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:34:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: bpc25@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Barry C." To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > > You might also want to read this explanation: > > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/jpihlaja/cw/qscaninfo.txt > Thanks, but thats reminded me of another question - could someone do a quick cut'n'paste and post the code of a d-clear? I've only seen it buried in the middle of warriors, usually needing self-modification to get going, and I'd like to see what it looks like on its own (might be able to see how it works then:). TIA for any help. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 17 23:36:02 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HLa2A28512 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:36:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HLa0QA023005 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:36:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HLZwfu011254 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:35:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10832; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:35:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:35:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: bpc25@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Barry C." To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > > OT: where does the first quote in your signature come > from? I know i've seen it somewhere else, but I can't > remmeber where. (the one that follows) > > -- > > Don't do what you can't undo until you know what you > > can't do once you've > > done it. > Can't remember the title, but it was a book about a wizard (unfortunately cursed to sneeze whenever he uses magic) and his inept apprentice trying to con money off any and everybody they meet. Each chapter had a snippet of wizardly wisdom attributed to the protagonist, such gems as "While it is possible to face a dragon by confronting it face-to-face, the sensible wizard will confront it when crouching behind a large rock out of firing range, and preferably while wearing asbestos underwear." I think my sig quote came from one of these. Barry From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jan 18 01:30:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HNUQA07750 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HNUOQA006244 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HNUNfu020752 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11700; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:30:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:30:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87k7h377j4.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Q-scans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Barry C." writes: > Thanks, but thats reminded me of another question - could someone do a quick > cut'n'paste and post the code of a d-clear? I've only seen it buried in the How about this? ;redcode-94nop ;assert 1 ;name d-clear gate dat 0 ,100 dat 0,0 clear spl # 0 , # 0 mov bomb , >gate djn.f -1 , >gate bomb dat >5335 , 15 end clear -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jan 18 01:30:44 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HNUgA01021 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0HNUdQA006265 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0HNUcY26606 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:30:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA11720; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:30:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:30:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5d6847b2.0301171504.74e46dcd@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dhillismail@netscape.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: dhillismail@netscape.net (Dave Hillis) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: GRIDWARS and Football Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Robert Macrae" wrote in message news:<3e27e494$0$237$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>... > > Hewlett-Packard is sponsoring the GRIDWARS parallel programming > > challenge with prizes and systems. > > Reminds me of an old competition to write AI for a virtual football team. > Anyone know what became of that? > > Robert If you mean RoboCup, it's going strong. A search on "robot soccer" (hoping to avoid a transatlantic sports terminology food fight here :) will get you there quicker than I could describe it. They mostly use real robots in different size classes but there is a simulator class too. Some nice co-evolutionary work... Dave Hillis From corewar-l@koth.org Sat Jan 18 16:51:09 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0IEp8A00933 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:51:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0IEp6QA003508 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:51:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0IEp5fu026993 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:51:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19424; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:49:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:49:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030117195409.83620.qmail@web41508.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: GRIDWARS and Football MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Robert Macrae wrote: > > > Hewlett-Packard is sponsoring the GRIDWARS > parallel programming > > challenge with prizes and systems. > > Reminds me of an old competition to write AI for a > virtual football team. > Anyone know what became of that? I remember hearing about the virtual football thing, but haven't heard anything about it for a long while. The real thing - REAL robots playing soccer for REAL -, however, is still going on each year i believe. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 00:35:49 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0JMZmA10675 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:35:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0JMZkQA000805 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:35:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0JMZjY14442 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:35:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02299; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:35:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:35:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e2b170f$0$227$626a54ce@news.free.fr> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kal.zakath@laposte.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Zakath" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Best paper ever ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hello Could you please give me the code of the best paper that ever fought in the arena ? Thank you in advance Zakath -- L'éternité, c'est long, surtout vers la fin. Robert Beauvais From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 00:36:11 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0JMaBA10421 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0JMa9QA000858 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0JMa7fu017191 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:36:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02329; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:35:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:35:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jpihlaja@cc.helsinki.fi Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: M Joonas Pihlaja To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Best paper ever ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Zakath wrote: > Could you please give me the code of the best paper that ever > fought in the arena ? The highest scoring paper on the '94nop "infinite" hill is John Metcalf's Firestorm. http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/94/HILL/firestorm.red For lots more code, go to http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/ and click on the "Koenigstuhl" link. Joonas From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 18:26:03 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQ2A11680 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KGQ0QA009558 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGPxY10327 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:25:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10448; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301200509.AAA18087@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 01/20/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/20/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jan 19 23:52:33 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 43/ 38/ 19 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 147 63 2 46/ 47/ 7 Claw Fizmo 146 346 3 33/ 23/ 44 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 144 609 4 39/ 38/ 23 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 141 140 5 33/ 25/ 42 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 140 14 6 40/ 41/ 18 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 139 153 7 29/ 20/ 51 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 139 416 8 31/ 24/ 45 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 139 1378 9 27/ 16/ 57 Daylight Roy van Rijn 138 1 10 42/ 47/ 11 Chainsaw Christian Schmidt 137 11 11 39/ 42/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 137 227 12 27/ 18/ 55 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 137 215 13 25/ 14/ 61 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 137 111 14 27/ 19/ 54 Firestorm John Metcalf 135 414 15 37/ 40/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 135 62 16 27/ 20/ 53 Temp Lukasz Grabun 135 4 17 38/ 41/ 22 t.A.T.u Girls Rule John Metcalf 135 5 18 22/ 8/ 70 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 135 305 19 30/ 28/ 41 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 132 26 20 25/ 19/ 56 test mj 132 19 21 2/ 98/ 0 _ _ 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 18:26:09 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQ9A18854 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KGQ7QA009593 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQ5fu008789 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10498; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301200503.AAA18031@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 01/20/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/20/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jan 19 16:18:45 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 silk christian 12 9 2 Her Majesty P.Kline 12 202 3 trial John Metcalf 8 87 4 fclear Brian Haskin 8 167 5 iTest John Metcalf 7 37 6 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 6 183 7 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 5 95 8 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 5 72 9 Digitalis 2002 Christian Schmidt 5 6 10 SiSterS [v01] Sheep 4 1 11 Bicarb Test F 16 Steve Gunnell 2 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 18:26:12 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQBA32358 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KGQAQA009610 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQ8fu008801 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10472; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301200506.AAA18060@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 01/20/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/20/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Wed Jan 15 09:32:55 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 49/ 39/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 160 40 2 33/ 24/ 43 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 143 72 3 24/ 8/ 68 Denial David Moore 140 81 4 25/ 11/ 64 Kin John Metcalf 139 48 5 28/ 17/ 55 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 139 80 6 23/ 7/ 70 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 139 209 7 37/ 36/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 138 136 8 31/ 24/ 45 Olivia X Ben Ford 138 21 9 35/ 33/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 137 23 10 28/ 21/ 51 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 136 162 11 34/ 34/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 134 140 12 26/ 19/ 55 Glenstorm John Metcalf 134 2 13 35/ 37/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 132 88 14 32/ 32/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 132 69 15 30/ 29/ 41 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 132 79 16 17/ 6/ 77 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 128 157 17 31/ 36/ 34 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 126 1 18 33/ 39/ 28 Exsnail Philip Thorne 126 35 19 16/ 6/ 78 Black Box v1.1 JKW 126 103 20 29/ 40/ 31 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 119 5 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 18:26:22 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQMA29519 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KGQKQA009658 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KGQJfu008836 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA10525; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:25:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301200500.AAA17992@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 01/20/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/20/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Dec 20 05:24:16 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 149 170 3 34/ 22/ 44 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 147 109 4 34/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 147 169 5 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 144 4 6 34/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 142 127 7 41/ 41/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 1 8 36/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 140 92 9 44/ 48/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 8 10 29/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 138 226 11 40/ 43/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 137 63 12 36/ 36/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 137 56 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 125 14 41/ 46/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 207 15 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 135 166 16 27/ 19/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 135 183 17 38/ 41/ 21 PacMan David Moore 135 199 18 38/ 45/ 18 Stasis David Moore 131 277 19 37/ 45/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 22:33:25 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KKXOA21940 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KKXLQA012351 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KKXKY25295 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12435; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:32:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:32:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NOFX@punkrockhigh.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Harbinger of Doom" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, I got into corewar a couple of weeks ago. I have already learnt a lot about different strategies and all. At start, I had a lot of difficulties "decoding" the strategies saw on warriors. Q^4 scan, imp-spiral, silk, core clear, incendairy bomb, ........ it was all chinese to me :-) luckily that has changed now. Yet I must say that there really aren't a lot of tutorials that explain jargon terms like that. The only one I found that had a section on jargon terms was the rec.games.corewarFAQ. There is still one thing that I don't understand. And that's stuff like: 7pt. Imp or 3pt. Stone What do the 7pt. and 3pt. stand for?? hope there is someone who can help me. greetings, HoD From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 22:33:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KKXPA08423 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KKXNQA012368 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KKXMfu029668 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12416; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:32:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:32:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: bpc25@cam.ac.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Barry C." To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > > What do the 7pt. and 3pt. stand for?? > hope there is someone who can help me. > greetings, > HoD > I think they're describing imp-rings, groups of imps which instead of mov.i 0, 1 are of the form mov.i 0, n where n is equal to (CORESIZE+1)/number of imps in the ring. A 7pt imp would be a ring of imps, each copying the mov instruction for the next one in the ring and moving in turn, which will have moved 1 space forwards in the core after 7 turns. From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 20 23:33:42 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KLXfA05550 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:33:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KLXdQA024193 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:33:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KLXcY28735 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:33:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12993; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:33:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:33:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e2c5e8b$0$252$626a54ce@news.free.fr> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kal.zakath@laposte.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Zakath" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Answer from another newbie who thinks he understood : A 4pt imp-ring, for example, is a "four parts" imp-ring with 4 differents execution processes. (that is with 3 SPL executed, if I make no mistakes). Zakath -- L'éternité, c'est long, surtout vers la fin. Robert Beauvais "Harbinger of Doom" a écrit dans le message de news: z6YW9.3216$e34.928245059@hestia.telenet-ops.be... > Hi all, > I got into corewar a couple of weeks ago. I have already learnt a lot about > different strategies and all. At start, I had a lot of difficulties > "decoding" the > strategies saw on warriors. > Q^4 scan, imp-spiral, silk, core clear, incendairy bomb, ........ it was all > chinese to me :-) > luckily that has changed now. Yet I must say that there really aren't a lot > of tutorials that > explain jargon terms like that. The only one I found that had a section on > jargon terms > was the rec.games.corewarFAQ. > There is still one thing that I don't understand. And that's stuff like: > 7pt. Imp > or > 3pt. Stone > > What do the 7pt. and 3pt. stand for?? > hope there is someone who can help me. > greetings, > HoD > > From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 21 00:33:47 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KMXlA12699 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:33:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0KMXjQA005663 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:33:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0KMXifu018118 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:33:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13461; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:33:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:33:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4ee41bd6.0301201404.3f93e8bd@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: waknuk@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: waknuk@yahoo.com (Philip Thorne) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: pMARS SDL port Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: M Joonas Pihlaja wrote in message news:... > Dear RedCoder, > > I've updated the SDL port of pMARS, and it now has a home page: > > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/~jpihlaja/cw/pmars-sdl/ > Works fine for me - no surprise. tx. Any chance you can allow the graphical display to be slowed further? I haven't tried all display modes yet but those I have look good. Philb From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 21 11:35:14 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0L9ZEA14170 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:35:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0L9ZBQA022494 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:35:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0L9ZAfu016659 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:35:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA18943; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:34:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:34:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0301210022.4f309ef@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Reminder/Update: Redcoders Frency 1: The Multi-Maniac Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: *Reminder*Reminder*Reminder*Reminder*Reminder*Reminder*Reminder*Reminder* ********************* * Redcoders Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Multi-Maniac Round | \________________________/ This is the first round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master Updates ------- - If I receive more than 32 entries (the max. amount pmars can handle for multi-warrior battles) I will possibly switch to Exhaust - The deadline will be expanded to 1st February, 2003. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please notify: You have to send this round your entries to me --------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards and good luck, Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 21 15:30:10 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0LDUAA01263 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:30:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0LDU8QA003542 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:30:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0LDU7Y17527 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:30:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20297; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:29:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:29:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0301210458.607bbf0a@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > The only one I found that had a section on > jargon terms > was the rec.games.corewarFAQ. I understand your problems. Therefore I will start soon with an comprehensive online corewar lexicon (or should I call it: the encyclopedia of corewar? ;-). I am still collecting keywords for the index, which can be found on the following website: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/lexicon/lexicon.htm All suggestions for further keywords are welcome. Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 21 17:35:47 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0LFZkA21350 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:35:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0LFZiQA004959 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:35:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0LFZefu020559 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:35:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA21083; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:29:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:29:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9e6b1335.0301210624.52a2a701@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iapdk@admin.drake.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: iapdk@admin.drake.edu (Paul Kline) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > What do the 7pt. and 3pt. stand for?? > hope there is someone who can help me. Called 7-point imps because there are 7 identical parts to them moving through core. 7 or more processes spaced 1143 locations apart in a spiral (7*1143=8001)executing an instruction like: mov.i 0,1143. 3-point imps would be 3 or more processes in a spiral executing mov.i 0,2667. 11-point imps would be 11 or more executing mov.i 0,5091 (11*5091=56001=8001). I haven't seen a 3pt stone, but a 3-line stone is one that occupies only three locations. Very small and very effective against scanners since they are hard to find. Paul Kline From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 22 05:07:37 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0M37aA10536 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:07:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0M37YQA025024 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:07:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0M37XY02496 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:07:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA25410; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:06:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:06:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030122024701.18513.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Paul Kline wrote: [snip] > I haven't seen a 3pt stone, but a 3-line stone is > one that occupies > only three locations. Very small and very effective > against scanners > since they are hard to find. Hhmm... Mintardjo(? i know i made like 3 mistakes in his name) had something that could be qualified as a stone-imp; both at the same time, that is, a bit like a paper. I can't remember if it had 3 points or only one, but it might very well be the only 3-point stone in Corewar's history so far :) Paul Khuong __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 22 16:34:28 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MEYRA19637 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:34:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0MEYOQA022261 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:34:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MEYMfu008950 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:34:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01056; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:32:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:32:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e2e9fb7_1@news.tm.net.my> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: abyss@tm.net.my Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Zul Nadzri" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Nice idea of encyclopedia. Also please put along the real working codes for example codes for 3-imp ring, 3line stone, q3, q4, p2, p3, dclear, etc, etc, so that new players (and enverone) could browse and use the code "off the shelf". This would encourage new ideas, I think, at least for the beginners. Zul Nadzri "Fizmo" wrote in message news:9f53b5fb.0301210458.607bbf0a@posting.google.com... > > The only one I found that had a section on > > jargon terms > > was the rec.games.corewarFAQ. > > I understand your problems. Therefore I will start soon with an > comprehensive online corewar lexicon (or should I call it: the > encyclopedia of corewar? ;-). I am still collecting keywords for the > index, which can be found on the following website: > > http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/lexicon/lexicon.htm > > All suggestions for further keywords are welcome. > > Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 22 17:33:25 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MFXPA21880 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:33:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0MFXNQA017204 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:33:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MFXMY20395 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01491; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:33:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: slavearc@KUTZOPpandora.be Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Harbinger Of Doom" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Nice idea of encyclopedia. Also please put along the real working codes for > example codes for 3-imp ring, 3line stone, q3, q4, p2, p3, dclear, etc, etc, > so that new players (and enverone) could browse and use the code "off the > shelf". This would encourage new ideas, I think, at least for the beginners. > > Zul Nadzri > > I like that idea too, there is no need for everyone to try to write a q^4 scanner on their own. it has already been invented, and shouldn't be "invented" over and over again. "Don't try to invent hot water!", my grandpa always said :-) From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 22 19:34:01 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MHY1A17452 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:34:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0MHXwQA025276 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:33:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0MHXvY28062 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:33:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA02307; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:33:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:33:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9e6b1335.0301220831.35b4ab4e@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iapdk@admin.drake.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: iapdk@admin.drake.edu (Paul Kline) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Paul-V Khuong wrote in message news:<20030122024701.18513.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com>... > Hhmm... Mintardjo(? i know i made like 3 mistakes in > his name) had something that could be qualified as a > stone-imp; both at the same time, that is, a bit like > a paper. I can't remember if it had 3 points or only > one, but it might very well be the only 3-point stone > in Corewar's history so far :) Hah! 3pt stone-imp may be what is meant. A program that launches both a stone, of any size, and a 3-point imp. A very tough combination. Paul Kline From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 23 04:10:52 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0N2ApA26058 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 04:10:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0N2AmQA005980 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 04:10:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0N2AlY26087 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 04:10:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA05463; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:10:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:10:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: joshudson@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Joshua Hudson" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: >From: Paul-V Khuong Might he have ment a point .3 stone, which looks about like this: SPL #-N, N MOV <-N, N ADD -2, -1 JMP -2 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 23 15:50:20 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0NDoKA18050 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:50:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0NDoIQA014461 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:50:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0NDoHY09616 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:50:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA11188; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:47:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:47:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030123025157.61889.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Joshua Hudson wrote: > >From: Paul-V Khuong > Might he have ment a point .3 stone, which looks > about like this: > > SPL #-N, N > MOV <-N, N > ADD -2, -1 > JMP -2 I have no idea what the guy meant by 3-point stone; i'm only referring to an interesting warrior by mintardjo. Additionally, what do you mean by "point .3"? I'm guessing what you actually mean is a .33c stone. BTW, that program would definitely be better with a djn instead of a jump. ;) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 10:34:22 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0R8YMA17825 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:34:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0R8YJQA027478 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:34:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0R8YIY22378 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:34:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA18733; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:31:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:31:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0301262352.d03e85e@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Redcoders Frency 2: The Smart-Switching Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Smart-Switching Round | \___________________________/ This is the second round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/cwt.htm Rules ----- This round you have to construct a p-warrior from given components (Cloner II, CLP and Frontwards): http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/round7.txt However there are some restrictions: - There must be exactly one copy of each of the three components in your warrior. - It is not allowed to modify these components in any way, except the assigned instruction (stp.ab #0, #0) where the values of the a- and b- fields can be modified during the battle. - It is only allowed to start the components at its assigned instruction (Cloner II: SRC; CLP: slDodger and Frontwards: boot). - It is not allowed to launch more than one component per round. - The p-switcher does not contain any kind of offensive properties and does not create any kind of decoy. - PIN is disallowed Each entry will fight each other entry in a 2000 rounds fight. There will be no self-fights. The scoring is one point for a win and no points for tie or loss. Standard '94 rules are used. As usual, you can enter either one or two warriors. The homepage of this round, including some more informations is: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/7.htm Deadline -------- Deadline is 22th February, 2003 (An extension of the deadline isn't possible this time, because I will be absent the following weeks) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Please notify: You have to send for this round your entries to me ----------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck ................................................................ From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:05:50 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RK5nA27123 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:05:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RK5lQA011976 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:05:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RK5hY02275 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:05:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22776; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:03:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:03:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <002a01c2c63a$5aca37c0$5dbae150@vaio> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: corewar@tiscali.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "John Metcalf" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Core Warrior #85 (repost) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: O X-Status: .xX$$x. .x$$$$$$$x. d$$$$$$$$$$$ ,$$$$$$$P' `P' , . $$$$$$P' ' .d b $$$$$P b ,$$x ,$$x ,$$x ,$$b $$. 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If you haven't a clue what I'm talking about then check out these five-star Internet locals for more information: FAQs are available from: http://www.koth.org/corewar-faq.html http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~anton/cw/corewar-faq.html Web pages are at: http://www.koth.org/ ;KOTH http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pizza/koth ;Pizza (down) http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar ;Planar http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/corewar ;C.Birk http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master ;Fizmo Newbies should check the above pages for the FAQs, language specification, guides, and tutorials. Post questions to rec.games.corewar. All new players are infinitely welcome! _______________________________________________________________________________ Greetings... The final results for the (inappropriately named) Spring / Summer 2002 tournament are included this issue, as are a collection of Hints by Joonas Pihlaja and Thunderstrike by Lukasz Grabun. The deadline for the Redcoders' Frenzy: the ongoing corewar tournament is the 1st February, so if you haven't done so already, check out the rules on Fizmo's corewar page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/cwt.htm -- John Metcalf ______________________________________________________________________________ Current Status of the KOTH.ORG '94 No Pspace Hill: # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 38/ 20 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 146.3 55 2 40/ 37/ 22 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 143.1 132 3 32/ 22/ 46 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 141.7 601 4 45/ 49/ 6 Claw Fizmo 141.3 338 5 33/ 24/ 43 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 141.3 6 6 30/ 19/ 51 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 140.9 408 7 28/ 16/ 56 test Roy van Rijn 139.9 1 8 40/ 41/ 19 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 139.4 145 9 31/ 23/ 46 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 138.9 1370 10 38/ 38/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 138.2 54 11 39/ 42/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 136.4 219 12 26/ 17/ 57 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 136.1 207 13 24/ 13/ 63 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 135.7 103 14 27/ 19/ 54 Firestorm John Metcalf 134.4 406 15 25/ 17/ 58 test mj 134.0 11 16 42/ 49/ 9 Chainsaw Christian Schmidt 133.8 3 17 21/ 8/ 71 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 132.8 297 18 30/ 29/ 41 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 130.8 127 19 29/ 27/ 44 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 129.9 18 20 26/ 23/ 50 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 129.0 444 182 successful challenges pass since the previous issue, and Son of Vain becomes the oldest warrior ever on the '94nop hill. Blade, the second oldest warrior last issue, perishes (age 643). Also pushed into the fatal 21st place were The Stormkeeper (460), Hazy Lazy ... reborn (284), Blowrag (234), Willow revised (205) and Dark Lowlands (108). Koth report: Most often seen in the top spot has been Son of Vain, king after 59 successful challenges. Also performing well were Reepicheep (55 times king), Toxic Spirit (28) and Return of Vanquisher (22). _______________________________________________________________________________ The '94 No Pspace Hall of Fame: * indicates the warrior is still active. Pos Name Author Age Strategy 1 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 1370 * Q^4 -> Stone/imp 2 Blacken Ian Oversby 1363 Q^2 -> Stone/imp 3 nPaper II Paul-V Khuong 1270 MiniQ^3 -> Paper 4 Uninvited John Metcalf 1130 MiniQ^3 -> Stone/imp 5 Behemot Michal Janeczek 1078 MiniQ^3 -> Bomber 6 Olivia Ben Ford 886 Q^4 -> Stone/imp 7 Keyser Soze Anton Marsden 823 Qscan -> Bomber/paper/imp 8 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 789 Q^4 -> Stone/imp 9 Eraser II Ken Espiritu 781 Scanner 10 Inky Ian Oversby 736 Q^4 -> Paper/stone 11 Jinx Christian Schmidt 662 Q^3 -> Scanner 12 Blade Fizmo 643 Qscan -> Scanner 13 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 601 * Q^4 -> Paper/stone 14 Jade Ben Ford 600 Q^4 -> Stone/imp 15 G3-b David Moore 503 Twoshot 16 Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 469 Q^4 -> Bomber 17 Revival Fire P.Kline 468 Bomber 18 The Phantom Menace Anton Marsden 465 Qscan -> Paper/imp 19 The Stormkeeper Christian Schmidt 460 Q^3 -> Stone/imp 20 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 444 * Q^4 -> Stone/imp 21 Boys are Back in Town Philip Kendall 441 Scanner = Zooom... John Metcalf 441 Scanner 23 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo+Roy 408 * Q^4 -> Paper 24 Firestorm John Metcalf 406 * MiniQ^3 -> Paper/imp 25 Qtest Christian Schmidt 394 Q^3 -> Paper 4 new entries, 2 stone/imp and 2 paper. Next to enter should be Claw. _______________________________________________________________________________ Current Status of the KOTH.ORG '94 Draft Hill: # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 43/ 38/ 19 Combatra David Moore 147.9 91 2 32/ 22/ 45 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 142.8 219 3 32/ 22/ 46 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 142.7 190 4 41/ 39/ 21 Return of Vanquisher PsP Lukasz Grabun 142.3 30 5 42/ 41/ 17 Bustling Spirit Christian Schmidt 142.3 60 6 40/ 40/ 20 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 140.3 102 7 37/ 33/ 30 Cyanide Excuse Dave Hillis 140.0 92 8 28/ 17/ 55 Incredible! John Metcalf 139.0 85 9 36/ 33/ 30 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 139.0 17 10 40/ 42/ 18 Woozily Higgle Christian Schmidt 138.6 5 11 32/ 25/ 43 Bitter Sweet Lukasz Grabun 138.4 12 12 38/ 39/ 23 Microvenator Michal Janeczek 137.7 23 13 26/ 14/ 60 Defensive Christian Schmidt 137.1 15 14 26/ 16/ 58 Blowrag Metcalf/Schmidt 136.5 146 15 38/ 39/ 23 CrazyShot 2 Christian Schmidt 136.4 202 16 26/ 17/ 57 Monolith John Metcalf 136.3 28 17 32/ 27/ 41 Dark Lowlands Roy van Rijn 136.3 95 18 32/ 28/ 40 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 136.0 29 19 29/ 22/ 49 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 135.3 197 20 25/ 19/ 56 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 131.1 1 Koth report: Since last issue the hill has aged by 59. Combatra has been King most frequently, after 32 successful challenges. Bustling Spirit was often atop the hill too, 17 times in all. _______________________________________________________________________________ The '94 Draft Hall of Fame: * indicates the warrior is still active. Pos Name Author Age Strategy 1 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 219 * Q^4 -> Paper/stone 2 CrazyShot 2 Christian Schmidt 202 * Q^4 -> Oneshot 3 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 197 * Q^4 -> Paper 4 Uninvited John Metcalf 194 MiniQ^3 -> Stone/imp 5 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 190 * Q^4 -> Stone/imp 6 Wallpaper Christian Schmidt 175 Q^4 -> Paper/stone 7 Blowrag Metcalf/Schmidt 146 * Q^4 -> Paper/imp 8 Joyful Maw Dave Hillis 143 P-warrior 9 Paperazor Christian Schmidt 141 Paper 10 Self-Modifying Code Ben Ford 132 P-warrior 11 Mad Christian Schmidt 123 P-warrior 12 Shapeshifter Michal Janeczek 107 P-warrior 13 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 102 * Scanner 14 Help...I'm Scared Roy van Rijn 98 Oneshot 15 Dark Lowlands Roy van Rijn 95 * *Unknown* 16 Cyanide Excuse Dave Hillis 92 * P-warrior = Dry Ice Ben Ford 92 P-warrior 18 Combatra David Moore 91 * Boot distance calculator 19 Digitalis 2002 Christian Schmidt 89 Q^4 -> Clear/imp = WingShot++ Ben Ford 89 Oneshot 21 Origami Harquebus mjp 88 P-warrior 22 Incredible! John Metcalf 85 * Paper/imp 23 Firestorm John Metcalf 80 MiniQ^3 -> Paper/imp 24 Pattel's Virus Ben Ford 73 P-warrior 25 Hazy Lazy ... reborn Steve Gunnell 67 Scanner Yet another hall of fame :-) _______________________________________________________________________________ Current Status of the Koenigstuhl Recursive ICWS '94 Draft Hill: Koenigstuhl is a collection of 8 infinite hills found at: http://www.ociw.edu/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html Below we show the top 25 of a total 801 warriors: rank name author score -------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 170.18 2 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 167.57 3 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 166.35 4 Blue Pike Roy van Rijn 165.79 5 Quicksilver Michal Janeczek 165.06 6 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 163.90 7 Uninvited John Metcalf 163.04 8 Hazy Lazy ... Steve Gunnell 162.96 9 Cheep! Half-Off! Ben Ford 162.84 10 Behemot Michal Janeczek 161.70 11 Firestorm John Metcalf 160.61 12 procoptodon Steve Gunnell 159.91 13 Jinx Christian Schmidt 159.82 14 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 159.70 15 Vanquisher II Lukasz Grabun 159.30 16 Candy Lukasz Grabun 159.14 17 Geist v0.1 Ben Ford 157.82 18 Olivia Ben Ford 157.79 19 The Machine Anton Marsden 157.65 20 Purifier Lukasz Grabun 157.58 21 Silver Talon 1.2 Edgar 157.19 22 Deep Freeze X Lukasz Grabun 156.79 23 Recovery Ian Oversby 156.53 24 Newt Ian Oversby 156.06 25 The Pendragon Christian Schmidt 156.03 Almost half of the top 25 are new entries: Reepicheep, Herbal Avenger, Blue Pike, Pixie, Cheep! Half-Off!, Firestorm, procoptodon, Jinx, Return of Vanquisher, Geist v0.1, Olivia and finally The Pendragon. Also new in the top 100 are The Marsupial Lion (in rank 32), Digitalis 2002 (37), Revenge of the Papers (54), Fast Action (56), Blowrag (63), The Demon Duck of Doom (93) and Help I'm Scared (95). The '88 infinite hill has some strong new entries too, with Quicksilver '88 (in rank 2), '88 test IV (3) and vm5 (4). _______________________________________________________________________________ Spring / Summer 2002 Corewar Tournament - Round 5 Results and Final Standings: In round 5, competitors take part in three event. Warriors have been written without the use of the add / sub opcodes. Pattern bombers / scanners are still possible using mul, and several of these have been entered. * Our first event is multi-warrior, with three warriors in core, 5 points for a win, 2 points for a two-way tie, and 1 point for a three-way tie. All 969 combinations of three warriors are played: # %Won Lost Tie2 Tie3 Name Author Score % 1 29.0 53.4 5.2 12.4 Russ Post Steve Gunnell 167.77 100.0 2 23.8 48.7 10.5 17.0 LuckyLuke Philip Thorne 156.93 93.5 3 5.8 10.0 35.8 48.4 The Duelist Michal Janeczek 149.05 88.8 4 19.7 45.0 15.2 20.1 Huanchot G.Labarga 148.90 88.8 5 2.6 2.4 36.7 58.3 Blackheart Ben Ford 144.65 86.2 6 11.3 26.2 24.5 38.0 Digimon Christian Schmidt 143.56 85.6 7 2.4 6.4 37.4 53.7 Pokemon Christian Schmidt 140.69 83.9 8 6.9 16.6 27.7 48.8 Dan Dare Simon Wainwright 138.57 82.6 9 6.6 18.4 30.0 45.0 Bravo Lukasz Grabun 137.95 82.2 10 19.4 52.7 11.0 16.8 Magneto Roy van Rijn 135.92 81.0 11 3.6 13.8 32.2 50.5 Shadowfax Roy van Rijn 132.68 79.1 12 3.1 13.9 32.3 50.6 Jolly Jumper Philip Thorne 130.88 78.0 13 10.9 38.0 21.5 29.6 Dixie Lukasz Grabun 126.96 75.7 14 11.3 38.8 19.5 30.3 Commander Heliotornado Michal Janeczek 125.98 75.1 15 1.4 11.6 27.2 59.8 Ron Post Steve Gunnell 121.35 72.3 16 4.1 25.0 25.3 45.6 Spiderman Ben Ford 116.63 69.5 17 3.0 31.9 23.1 42.0 Yak Snout Dave Hillis 103.09 61.4 18 2.7 40.5 20.3 36.5 Bonzo Sascha Zapf 90.68 54.1 19 0.3 65.8 11.5 22.4 Mekon Simon Wainwright 47.01 28.0 * The second is a standard round-robin battle, with no self-fights, 4 points for a win, and 1 point for a tie: # %Won Lost Tied Name Author Score % 1 56.0 33.3 10.7 Russ Post Steve Gunnell 234.83 100.0 2 42.5 27.9 29.6 The Duelist Michal Janeczek 199.58 85.0 3 45.1 38.2 16.7 LuckyLuke Philip Thorne 197.27 84.0 4 43.0 33.3 23.7 Huanchot G.Labarga 195.64 83.3 5 44.2 38.3 17.5 Magneto Roy van Rijn 194.41 82.8 6 37.8 21.0 41.2 Commander Heliotornado Michal Janeczek 192.42 81.9 7 26.4 18.1 55.4 Digimon Christian Schmidt 161.12 68.6 8 23.3 17.6 59.1 Bravo Lukasz Grabun 152.33 64.9 9 17.6 12.1 70.3 Shadowfax Roy van Rijn 140.78 59.9 10 18.1 14.4 67.5 Dan Dare Simon Wainwright 139.99 59.6 11 22.9 32.2 44.9 Dixie Lukasz Grabun 136.56 58.2 12 16.0 12.4 71.6 Jolly Jumper Philip Thorne 135.75 57.8 13 11.8 4.4 83.8 Pokemon Christian Schmidt 131.13 55.8 14 11.2 3.6 85.2 Blackheart Ben Ford 129.92 55.3 15 10.2 10.8 79.0 Ron Post Steve Gunnell 119.64 50.9 16 12.7 26.7 60.6 Spiderman Ben Ford 111.36 47.4 17 14.9 34.0 51.1 Bonzo Sascha Zapf 110.68 47.1 18 12.4 34.3 53.3 Yak Snout Dave Hillis 102.92 43.8 19 2.8 56.5 40.6 Mekon Simon Wainwright 51.98 22.1 * The final event sees the entries battle against the 'White Army' benchmark of 20 warriors, 3 points for a win, 1 point for a tie. The score of Commander Heliotornado just has to be admired: # Name Author %W %L %T Score % 1 Commander Heliotornado Michal Janeczek 54 26 20 182.30 100.0 2 LuckyLuke Philip Thorne 40 46 14 134.10 73.6 3 Pokemon Christian Schmidt 21 10 69 131.64 72.2 4 Blackheart Ben Ford 18 12 70 123.30 67.6 5 Bravo Lukasz Grabun 27 31 42 123.24 67.6 6 Shadowfax Roy van Rijn 24 25 51 122.58 67.2 7 Jolly Jumper Philip Thorne [PVK/JM] 24 26 49 122.31 67.1 8 Digimon Christian Schmidt 30 39 31 122.02 66.9 9 Dan Dare Simon Wainwright 22 30 48 114.65 62.9 10 Ron Post Steve Gunnell 18 23 58 112.70 61.8 11 The Duelist Michal Janeczek 28 43 29 112.42 61.7 12 Dixie Lukasz Grabun 27 45 28 108.32 59.4 13 Russ Post Steve Gunnell 33 58 9 108.26 59.4 14 Huanchot G.Labarga 26 53 21 99.61 54.6 15 Magneto Roy van Rijn 26 58 16 94.11 51.6 16 Spiderman Ben Ford 14 41 45 87.08 47.8 17 Bonzo Sascha Zapf 16 62 22 70.45 38.6 18 Yak Snout Dave Hillis 10 57 34 62.26 34.2 19 Mekon Simon Wainwright 7 70 23 45.29 24.8 Among the entries, paper is the most common strategy, with 4 in total, (Jolly Jumper, Shadowfax, Spiderman and Ron Post). Also, there are 3 paper/imp (Pokemon, Bonzo and Blackheart) and a paper/clear (Bravo). Oneshots are well represented with 3, (Lucky Luke, Huanchot and Magneto) and there's just one scanner (Ross Pot). Two clear/imps (Dixie and Digimon) take part, as do an evolved warrior (Yak Snout) and an imp (Mekon). The remaining 3 warriors are p-spacers, (Dan Dare, The Duelist and Commander Heliotornado). The total score for round 5: # Competitor Multi Robin Bmark Total 1 Michal Janeczek 88.8 85.0 100.0 273.8 2 Steve Gunnell 100.0 100.0 61.8 261.8 3 Philip Thorne 93.5 84.0 73.6 251.1 4 Roy van Rijn 81.0 82.8 67.2 231.0 5 German Labarga 88.8 83.3 54.6 226.7 6 Christian Schmidt 85.6 68.6 72.2 226.4 7 Lukasz Grabun 82.2 64.9 67.6 214.7 8 Ben Ford 86.2 55.3 67.6 209.1 9 Simon Wainwright 82.6 59.6 62.9 205.1 10 Sascha Zapf 54.1 47.1 38.6 139.8 11 Dave Hillis 61.4 43.8 34.2 139.4 And finally, we have the Spring / Summer 2002 results. For those players who took part in all 5 rounds, only the highest 4 results count toward the final score: # Competitor Tiny BigLP 88Win Len50 3Atha Total Final 1 Michal Janeczek 93.3 100.0 100.0 98.6 273.8 665.7 : 572.4 2 Steve Gunnell 91.0 85.0 82.4 96.2 261.8 616.4 : 534.0 3 Philip Thorne 75.5 68.0 72.7 89.0 251.1 556.3 : 488.3 4 Ben Ford 100.0 74.4 75.1 100.0 209.1 558.6 : 484.2 5 Simon Wainwright 79.1 71.5 89.1 79.0 205.1 523.8 : 452.3 6 Lukasz Grabun 81.3 . 67.6 70.7 214.7 434.3 : 434.3 7 Dave Hillis 99.9 84.3 87.3 87.7 139.4 498.6 : 414.3 8 Roy Van Rijn . . . 92.8 231.0 323.8 : 323.8 9 Christian Schmidt . . . 90.7 226.4 317.1 : 317.1 10 German Labarga . . . 60.0 226.7 286.7 : 286.7 11 Robert Macrae 89.7 61.0 . . . 150.7 : 150.7 12 Sascha Zapf . . . . 139.8 139.8 : 139.8 13 Winston Featherly-Bean 72.9 47.3 . . . 120.2 : 120.2 14 David Moore . 51.4 63.6 . . 115.0 : 115.0 15 Martin Ankerl 88.2 . . . . 88.2 : 88.2 16 Ken Espiritu . . 86.3 . . 86.3 : 86.3 17 Leonardo H. Liporati 84.3 . . . . 84.3 : 84.3 18 mushroommaker 71.3 . . . . 71.3 : 71.3 19 Arek Paterek 66.0 . . . . 66.0 : 66.0 20 Paul Drake 61.9 . . . . 61.9 : 61.9 21 Sheep . . . 60.2 . 60.2 : 60.2 22 Compudemon 53.9 . . . . 53.9 : 53.9 23 Darek L. . . . 35.2 . 35.2 : 35.2 24 bvowk . . . 27.0 . 27.0 : 27.0 So, the overall winner is Michal Janeczek, who wins the International Money Order for $100 (US). The best performance in an individual round also goes to Michal, for FragPaper in the BigLP round. The highest ranking tournament newcomer is Philip Thorne, in 3rd place. Congratulations to everyone who has taken part. _______________________________________________________________________________ Seven Hints, by Joonas Pihlaja Here are some hints that you probably know already, but might refresh your memory. 1) In a stone you can spread out your decrement stream by having the decrement pointer change like the main bombing pointer does: ;redcode ;assert 1 STEP equ (3039*8) steps spl #3*STEP,3*STEP add steps, ptr ptr mov bmb+2+2*STEP, *bmb+2 mov bmb, @ptr djn.f -3, *ptr bmb dat STEP, 0 end 2) When your one shot finds something, try moving your scan pointers back a bit so it has a better chance of stunning the enemy. Try it with and without the "add #-20, gate" line in the one shot below, for instance. ;redcode-94nop ;name one shot test ;strat .5c fscan -> .5c sdd clear ;assert 1 gate equ (bp-(bs-bp)) sca add #10, gate jmz.f sca, @gate add #-20, gate bp spl #bs, bd-gate mov *bp, >gate djn.f -1, {gate dat 0,0 dat 0,0 bd dat 0, 20-gate bs spl #bp-(gate-1), 20-gate end sca 3) You don't need a d-clear to have an effective gate in your clear. The loop works almost as well. (Thanks to David Moore, who pointed this one out.) mov bomb, >gate djn.f -1, {gate 4) When booting multi-component warriors where the components are heavy splitters, make sure all your processes leave the boot code at roughly the same time. Otherwise if you send processes to a heavy splitter and still have things to do in your boot code, then those remaining processes may linger in the boot code, just gagging to be spl wiped. 5) Don't buy the hype: There's no magic d-clear bomb. Use your spare fields for something useful. Here's the imp pump: pump spl 0,0 add.a #2667+1,2 mov imp,>1 jmp imp-2*2668,1 imp mov 0,2667 end And here's the d-clear: gate equ (clr-5) clr spl 0,0 mov 2,>gate djn.f -1,>gate dat AFIELD,2-gate ; AFIELD one of 0, <2667, etc. Here are the results for various AFIELD's from running pmars-server with the flags -r 1000 -F 1000 imp.red dclr.red. Wins are for the imp. 0: 3-536-461 <0: 3-536-461 <2666: 3-536-461 <5333: 3-535-462 <-1: 3-536-461 <2667: 3-540-457 <5334: 4-536-460 <1: 3-536-461 <2668: 3-536-461 <5335: 3-536-461 >0: 3-525-472 >2666: 3-471-526 >5333: 5-498-497 >-1: 4-507-489 >2667: 3-525-472 >5334: 4-525-471 >1: 4-535-461 >2668: 3-536-461 >5335: 10-525-465 Note that across the board the incrementing bombs score worse than the control bomb dat 0,2-gate by a fair deal, except once. Contrast that to the decrementing bombs where mostly there is no effect, except <2667, which has a very slight advantage. 6) Airbag techniques are more effective with larger loops. 7) Scan your opponent in unexpected ways. _______________________________________________________________________________ Extra Extra - Thunderstrike by Lukasz Grabun One way in which a warrior made by a experienced programmer differs from one made by a beginner is the variety of classes of other programs it can beat. Sure, it's easy to make a scanner that beats paper, but can we make it anti-stone enough to enter the hill and survive there? For a stone, it's important to score well against other stones, clears and paper. During the process of creating Thunderstrike I've realised that it is scanners which are sometimes the hardest to beat. The idea was given a few years ago by Ian Oversby in his article about Newt. ("Longevity, Imp/Stones and Newt", CW69). Here's what he stated: : So, how is it possible to future-proof your new program? I believe we : must look at the problem in the correct light. If we take the traditional : analogy of warriors to stone/paper/scissors then we condemn our warrior to : death as the hill balance changes. If we wrote a scanner then when many : stones enter the hill we will surely die. However, this analogy holds : very loosely. For example, it is possible to write a stone that will kill : paper or paper that will kill scissors. That attitude that we _can_ beat : a warrior type that would usually beat us is very important. It is : interesting to note that Vigor, allegedly a paper, suffers its worst : defeat at the hands of a stone - Newt. Thunderstrike originates from the idea expressed by Ian in his program: a strong and resilient stone to kill scanners, with a d-clear to wipe imps. TS's stone implements just one more trick while bombing: a Torch-like engine, as widely used by other stones. So, why not try it in a Newt-like bomber? The idea was quite easy to implement: step equ (3510) hop equ (46) gate equ (inc-6) from equ (0+step) hit equ (loop-step-hop) inc SPL.B #step , <-step MOV.I {from , gate DJN.F -1 , >gate bomb DAT.F >5335 , hop+1 It produces quite a good pattern of laid bombs/decrements: ..0..X..*...0..X..*... where 0 is a dat 0,0 bomb, X is a dat >5335,hop+1 and * is a decrement. As you will have noticed it is similar to Newt's pattern, though not so dense. The stone itself is large - 8 cells, opposed to 4-5 cells for the generic frenzy killers commonly used in stone/imps, which does not compare well. On the other hand, TS has a good offensive power against imps - not only does it have its own d-clear, but it also uses an anti-imp bomb as a pointer for the second bomb. Other stone/imps in general do not have their own clear, or they self-bomb to create a clumsy 0.33c clear, losing many processes when they do so. Skew Dwarf from Recycled Bits has the most offensive power against stone/imp warriors among generic stones - compare the results (scores calculated for SD, Candy and TS, respectively): : Skew Dwarf : Candy : Thunderstrike : : %W %L %T Sto S/I : %W %L %T Sto S/I : %W %L %T Sto S/I : Candy: 32 53 16 112 175 : 7 89 4 25 271 : 31 45 24 117 159 : Jade : 30 55 15 105 180 : 5 89 10 25 277 : 33 39 28 127 155 : QS : 22 72 6 72 222 : 12 85 3 39 279 : 35 51 13 118 166 : Uninv: 25 56 19 94 187 : 13 81 6 45 249 : 30 48 22 112 166 : Oliv : 24 57 19 91 190 : 6 82 12 30 258 : 25 51 27 102 180 : SoV : 18 51 32 76 185 : 8 85 3 27 253 : 21 51 27 90 180 : Newt : 24 53 24 96 183 : 9 81 10 37 253 : 22 42 36 102 162 : WMute: 12 72 15 51 231 : 9 83 8 35 257 : 22 55 23 89 188 : Storm: 26 57 17 95 188 : 6 89 5 23 272 : 27 40 33 114 153 : PenDr: 19 46 35 92 173 : 5 88 7 22 271 : 17 36 47 98 155 : Roseb: 22 71 7 73 219 : 9 83 8 35 256 : 27 50 24 100 172 : Avr : 23 57 20 89 191 : 8 85 7 31 262 : 26 46 28 106 166 : As you can see, Candy is totally unable to handle stone/imps. Skew Dwarf scores much better, but it is Thunderstrike that gains most wins and turns many losses into ties. Sidenote: the effectiveness with which Newt handles d-clear is strongly overstated. D-clear of the form: gate dat 0 , 100 dat 0 , 0 clear spl #0 , #0 mov bomb , >gate djn.f -1 , >gate bomb dat >5335 , 2-gate end clear .. scores even with a stone derived from Newt, while Thunderstrike beats it (52/42/6). To give you a better picture here are detailed results (pmars executed with -P option) Number of Newt's stone Thunders's stone cycles loses/wins loses/wins 1000 18/100 4/100 5000 92/100 55/100 10000 103/100 94/100 80000 103/100 118/100 Newt disables the d-clear sooner, but overall Thundestrike performs better. As I discovered, the average performarance of Newt against d-clear is caused by the double spl lines. Commenting first line in the stone helps a lot: Newt scores now 51/39/9. This leaves papers (and as I later found out, scanners) to take care of. Paper can harm Thunderstrike. This is a weakness of all stone/imp warriors and only a little can be done about this. After careful consideration and testing, I chose to use medium-weight imps (30 processes) and kill the launcher after 3000 cycles. If the stone survives the first 1200 cycles - the moment when d-clear is entered - it completely surpasses imps, to perform a better end-phase, and disallow the imps reaching any remaining gates. This is done in a similar manner to Newt - kind of double spl line when `loop' is hit produces so many processes, the imps slow down, hardly moving over the core. However, if the stone is killed during paper carpet bombing, the imps are strong enough to face paper bombs. For example, a paper derived from Purifier ties with Thunderstrike (2/4/94 - counted for paper). Reepicheep's paper scores about 13/7/80. However, stronger anti-imp papers, such as Disincentive, can do real harm. Hopefully, the times of stand-alone papers are gone. :-) While creating the stone, I discovered that even programs which by definition should be killed by stones (namely: scissors) can produce some real problems: : Skew Dwarf : Candy : Thunderstrike : : %W %L %T Sto Sca : %W %L %T Sto Sca : %W %L %T Sto Sca : HL : 63 31 6 195 99 : 66 28 6 204 90 : 42 51 7 133 160 : Boys : 68 25 6 210 81 : 68 25 7 211 82 : 57 37 5 176 116 : CS2 : 49 43 7 154 136 : 45 45 9 144 144 : 48 38 13 157 127 : DeepF: 67 28 4 205 88 : 65 27 7 202 88 : 45 45 10 145 145 : SilvT: 73 17 9 228 60 : 72 21 6 222 69 : 57 35 8 179 113 : Zooom: 73 21 6 225 69 : 78 16 5 239 53 : 57 35 8 179 113 : HerbA: 67 25 8 209 83 : 61 30 9 192 99 : 51 41 7 160 130 : Willw: 69 29 2 209 89 : 76 19 4 232 61 : 65 34 2 197 104 : Jinx : 73 18 8 227 62 : 70 22 7 217 73 : 57 35 7 178 112 : Avr : 68 26 6 210 84 : 67 25 7 208 82 : 53 39 8 167 125 : Thunderstrike scores well against traditional scanners. Those with anti-stone improvements cause some problems but overall the score is quite good. Skew Dwarf and Candy's stone score extraordinarily, and outrun scanners (no wonder, Candy *was* designed to kill them). Here are results counted for Thunderstrike against some top-notch warriors: %W %L %T Score =================================================== Behemot 41 43 16 139 Boys Are Back 45 40 14 150 Candy 24 9 67 140 Crazyshot 2 41 30 28 152 Deep Freeze X 42 42 16 143 Disincentive 13 24 62 102 Executor 45 35 20 156 Firestorm 15 14 71 117 Hazy Lazy 36 43 20 129 Herbal Avenger 42 37 21 146 Jade 31 8 61 153 Mini Jedi 12 9 79 116 Newt 25 27 48 124 nPaper II 9 11 80 108 Olivia 24 27 49 121 Purifier 15 12 72 118 Quicksilver 30 11 60 149 Recovery 21 19 60 123 Reepicheep 23 18 59 128 Return of Vanquisher 43 40 17 145 RotF Copy 13 7 80 119 Silver Talon 1.2 43 41 16 145 Son of Vain 22 23 55 121 Stylizede Euphoria 30 7 62 153 Uninvited 34 8 58 160 Vanquisher II 44 37 19 152 Wallpaper 21 25 54 116 Wintermute 30 10 60 150 Zooom 43 39 18 148 Here's the code. Enjoy. ;redcode-94nop ;author Lukasz Grabun ;assert (CORESIZE==8000) ;name Thunderstrike ;strategy Q^4 -> Stone/Imp orig z for 0 rof ; -- imp constants istep equ (2667) ; 3-point imps ioff equ (6338+orig) ; imp launcher offset qBmb dat {qOff , #qF ; -- imp launcher pump SPL.B #imp , #imp+1 SUB.F #-istep-1 , iloop MOV.I imp , }pump iloop JMP.B imp-2*(istep+1) , >imp+2*istep-1 imp MOV.I #0 , istep ; -- stone constants step equ (3510) hop equ (46) gate equ (inc-6) from equ (0+step) hit equ (loop-step-hop) soff equ (2498+ioff) ; stone offset ; -- stone inc SPL.B #step , <-step MOV.I {from , gate DJN.F -1 , >gate bomb DAT.F >5335 , hop+1 ; -- boot boot MOV.I bomb , soff MOV.I {boot , , Philip Kendall , Anton Marsden , John Metcalf and Christian Schmidt From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:12:13 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCDA08776 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKCBQA013269 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCAY02615 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22977; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:09:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:09:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301270509.AAA15399@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 01/27/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/27/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Jan 25 06:01:45 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 41/ 40/ 19 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 142 91 2 44/ 48/ 7 Claw Fizmo 140 374 3 38/ 39/ 23 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 138 168 4 39/ 41/ 20 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 138 255 5 39/ 43/ 18 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 135 181 6 29/ 25/ 46 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 134 637 7 37/ 41/ 22 t.A.T.u Girls Rule John Metcalf 133 33 8 30/ 28/ 42 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 133 11 9 24/ 15/ 61 Dawn Roy van Rijn 133 22 10 32/ 31/ 37 My First Paper Michal Janeczek 133 5 11 35/ 41/ 24 Driftwood John Metcalf 130 90 12 24/ 19/ 58 Firestorm John Metcalf 129 442 13 27/ 26/ 47 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 128 1406 14 38/ 47/ 15 Kenshin X test 57 Steve Gunnell 128 1 15 22/ 16/ 63 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 128 139 16 18/ 8/ 74 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 128 333 17 23/ 19/ 57 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 127 243 18 24/ 23/ 53 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 125 444 19 25/ 29/ 46 sp Lukasz Grabun 120 3 20 26/ 32/ 42 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 120 54 21 17/ 23/ 59 test mj 112 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:12:18 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCIA24433 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKCGQA013297 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCFY02631 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23002; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:09:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:09:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301270506.AAA15373@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 01/27/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/27/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! 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Dave Hillis 129 69 13 31/ 35/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 127 23 14 33/ 38/ 29 Ogre Christian Schmidt 127 88 15 23/ 21/ 56 Glenstorm John Metcalf 125 2 16 14/ 6/ 80 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 122 157 17 31/ 41/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 121 35 18 13/ 6/ 81 Black Box v1.1 JKW 120 103 19 27/ 39/ 34 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 116 1 20 27/ 42/ 31 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 113 5 21 25/ 54/ 21 Zeta Mao 0002b Sheep 97 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:12:35 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCYA17507 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKCWQA013357 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCUfu014219 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23028; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:10:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:10:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301270503.AAA15333@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 01/27/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/27/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Fri Jan 24 18:18:56 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 Dawn Roy van Rijn 16 7 2 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 15 80 3 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 14 191 4 iTest John Metcalf 14 45 5 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 12 103 6 trial John Metcalf 10 95 7 fclear Brian Haskin 8 175 8 SiSterS [2b] Sheep 7 4 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 6 210 10 Stolen Test A 30 Steve Gunnell 0 1 11 Kenshin X test 57 Steve Gunnell 0 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:12:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCmA01803 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKCkQA013400 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKCjY02649 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:12:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23055; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:10:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:10:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301270500.AAA15287@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 01/27/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/27/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! 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Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:19:18 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKJHA05636 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:19:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKJEQA014958 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:19:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKJDY03066 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:19:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23381; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:16:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:16:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@mikrus.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Paul-V Khuong wrote: > I have no idea what the guy meant by 3-point stone; Maybe stone that gains only 3 points on KotH's Standard Hill? ;] Guys, I am subscribed to this newsgroup twice and one of my e-mail addresses is not valid now. I even cannot signoff because it doesn't work. Does anybody knows how to do that or who can unsubscribe me? Greets Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:31:51 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKVoA00442 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:31:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKVmQA018085 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:31:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKVlfu017884 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:31:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23717; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301130509.AAA02123@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 01/13/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/13/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jan 12 18:31:41 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 37/ 22 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 146 115 2 34/ 23/ 43 Bitter Sweet Lukasz Grabun 144 13 3 41/ 39/ 21 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 143 38 4 31/ 19/ 51 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 142 391 5 31/ 22/ 47 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 140 1353 6 45/ 49/ 6 Claw Fizmo 140 321 7 31/ 23/ 46 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 140 584 8 27/ 15/ 58 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 138 190 9 39/ 41/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 137 202 10 29/ 21/ 49 Yellow Bell Christian Schmidt 137 2 11 24/ 12/ 64 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 136 86 12 21/ 7/ 72 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 135 280 13 37/ 40/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 135 37 14 25/ 15/ 60 test Christian Schmidt 135 22 15 39/ 43/ 19 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 135 128 16 27/ 19/ 55 Firestorm John Metcalf 134 389 17 31/ 28/ 41 Digitalis 2002a Christian Schmidt 133 110 18 28/ 26/ 45 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 131 1 19 26/ 22/ 52 Positive Knife Ken Espiritu 130 427 20 35/ 43/ 22 test mj 126 30 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:32:06 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKW5A07074 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKW3QA018144 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKW2Y03732 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23741; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301130506.AAA02075@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 01/13/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/13/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Wed Jan 1 17:37:19 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 48/ 40/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 156 40 2 32/ 24/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 139 72 3 21/ 9/ 70 Denial David Moore 133 81 4 25/ 18/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 80 5 35/ 38/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 132 136 6 22/ 13/ 65 Kin John Metcalf 132 48 7 20/ 9/ 72 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 131 209 8 33/ 34/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 131 23 9 28/ 26/ 46 Olivia X Ben Ford 129 21 10 24/ 20/ 56 Glenstorm John Metcalf 129 2 11 32/ 36/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 128 140 12 30/ 33/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 128 69 13 33/ 38/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 128 88 14 25/ 24/ 51 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 127 162 15 28/ 30/ 43 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 126 79 16 31/ 41/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 121 35 17 14/ 7/ 79 Black Box v1.1 JKW 120 103 18 29/ 37/ 34 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 120 1 19 14/ 7/ 79 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 120 157 20 27/ 42/ 31 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 113 5 21 31/ 51/ 18 Greetings From Asbury Par JKW 110 100 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:32:12 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKWCA20140 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKWAQA018189 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKW9fu017940 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:32:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA23765; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:29:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301130503.AAA02038@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 01/13/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/13/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Jan 12 18:22:29 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 fclear Brian Haskin 29 160 2 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 20 65 3 trial John Metcalf 19 80 4 QuestIn Time Philip Thorne 18 66 5 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 17 176 6 Playing with Fire Ben Ford 14 88 7 iTest John Metcalf 13 30 8 Dettol Test 22 Steve Gunnell 9 1 9 Her Majesty P.Kline 8 195 10 silk christian 5 2 11 +1 Stormbringer Test A 17 Dan Nabutovsky, P. K 1 3 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Jan 27 22:38:42 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKceA19898 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:38:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0RKcdQA019448 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:38:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0RKccY04034 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:38:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24045; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:36:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:36:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301130500.AAA02000@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 01/13/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 01/13/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Dec 20 05:24:16 EST 2002 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 149 170 3 34/ 22/ 44 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 147 109 4 34/ 22/ 43 Guardian Ian Oversby 147 169 5 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 144 4 6 34/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 142 127 7 41/ 41/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 1 8 36/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 140 92 9 44/ 48/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 8 10 29/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 138 226 11 40/ 43/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 137 63 12 36/ 36/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 137 56 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 125 14 41/ 46/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 207 15 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 135 166 16 27/ 19/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 135 183 17 38/ 41/ 21 PacMan David Moore 135 199 18 38/ 45/ 18 Stasis David Moore 131 277 19 37/ 45/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 129 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 126 2 21 13/ 67/ 20 Skull Catapult v1.0 Kendrix 60 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Jan 28 11:33:29 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0S9XSA22173 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:33:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0S9XPQA028724 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:33:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0S9XOfu006155 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:33:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA00862; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:32:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:32:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: NOFX@punkrockhigh.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Harbinger of Doom" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Lukasz Adamowski" schreef in bericht news:Pine.LNX.4.44.0301251933160.8501-100000@inferno.mikrus.pw.edu.pl... > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Paul-V Khuong wrote: > > > I have no idea what the guy meant by 3-point stone; > > Maybe stone that gains only 3 points on KotH's Standard Hill? ;] > > Guys, I am subscribed to this newsgroup twice and one of my e-mail > addresses is not valid now. I even cannot signoff because it doesn't work. > Does anybody knows how to do that or who can unsubscribe me? > Greets > Lukasz > Hello everyone, its me again (original poster). It can be that I misread about the 3pt stone. or that someone mistyped or something. could also be that it was 3pt stone/imp or something, I don't remember exactly. Actually, I have another question for you guys. I just finished reading the new corewarrior, and again I encountered things that I don't understand and that I don't find an explanation for. 1) In the hints on stone-section, an example warrior says: strategy: .5c fscan -> .5c sdd clear so this time, I don't know what the .5c stands for. also whats the difference betwee a regular core clear, an sdd-clear and a dclear?? a bit further in the document (the second hint section) there's also an explanation that says that a lot of people create "clumsy 0.33c clears" so I'm pretty sure that I didn't misread this time ;-) thanks for all the help on my other problem, and thanks in advance for all the help on this one :-) greetz, HoD From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 29 01:34:36 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0SNYZA12972 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:34:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0SNYXQA021111 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:34:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0SNYUfu028054 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:34:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05719; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:34:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:34:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: joshudson@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Joshua Hudson" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: >From: "Harbinger of Doom" >that a lot of people create "clumsy 0.33c clears" so I am working on a stone/imp that relies on the imp to finish the core-clear. The stone bombs about 75% or core (mod-1) before suiciding, leaving the imps to clean up. I don't fear a gate, as it is very unlikely for any gate to survive the bombing run. Any nasty bomb-dodger is going to be in for an unplesent surprise when its perfectly placed clear gets nailed. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Jan 29 16:35:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TEZlA02784 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:35:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0TEZjQA024905 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:35:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TEZiY14611 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:35:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12495; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:29:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:29:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1043794124.10067@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Harbinger of Doom wrote: > > so this time, I don't know what the .5c stands for. In physics, "c" commonly means the speed of light, the maximum speed anything in the universe can travel. In CW, by analogy, it means the maximum speed at which data can be moved: 1 instruction per cycle. So a 0.5c bomber throws, on average, one bomb in every two cycles. Note that speeds over 1c can be meaningful, as long as what is being measured is not data copying. For example, qscanners scan at 2c, and a decrement stream can be laid out at 3c using an unrolled decoy-maker. > also whats the difference betwee a regular core clear, an sdd-clear > and a dclear?? A regular core clear is, well, a regular core clear. It clears the core. Having cleared the core, it may then start all over again (repeating core clear), kill itself (suicidal cc) or transform into something else, often an imp gate (clear -> gate). Of these three alternatives, the first is by far the most common these days. An "SDD clear", I suppose, stands for a SPL/DAT/DAT multipass core clear. That means it first overwrites the core with SPL instructions to stun its opponent, and then overwrites it twice with DAT instructions to kill the stunned processes. The D-clear, invented by Björn Günzel, is a particular type of repeating core clear that mixes its clear with a decrement stream to achive an effective speed of 1c. It also acts as an effective imp gate while running. The disadvantage of the trick is that this "dirty" clear can't be relied on to kill all enemy processes in just one pass, since it does not truly "clear" the core. For the original d-clear, see: http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/post/d-clear.txt -- Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ "However, what you are implying is *probably* anatomically impossible, if not topologically." -- Simon Cozens in the monastery From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 30 01:01:15 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TN1EA27941 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0TN1CQA014140 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TN1BY13833 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15610; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:00:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:00:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030129020930.85382.qmail@web41504.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Harbinger of Doom wrote: [snip] > Actually, I have another question for you guys. > I just finished reading the new corewarrior, and > again I encountered things > that I don't understand > and that I don't find an explanation for. > 1) In the hints on stone-section, an example warrior > says: strategy: .5c > fscan -> .5c sdd clear > so this time, I don't know what the .5c stands > for. also whats the > difference betwee a > regular core clear, an sdd-clear and a dclear?? > a bit further in the document (the second hint > section) there's also an > explanation that says > that a lot of people create "clumsy 0.33c clears" > so I'm pretty sure that > I didn't misread this time ;-) OK, it seems you missed something that's explained in Ilmari's introduction(iirc - or another relatively new primer) :D. c in the world of physics is the speed of light in vacuum, the ultimate limit, as we all know. In corewar, it's pretty much the same: mov can only move 1 cell/cycle, so we use this as the speed limit. Therefor, .5c is something that scans or bombs at the average of 1 location/2 cycle (jmz scan or add/mov/mov/jmp bomber, fe). >From that, we can also understand the meaning of .5c clear: it moves its clear 1 location/2 cycles(mov/jmz, fe). After that comes the different kind of clears: "regular" core-clear: I guess anything can be regular, especially since the release of the d-clear. Anything that attacks the core sequentially, i guess. ssd: stands for spl/spl/dat. Basically, a clear that passes through the core twice with SPL, and then once/indefinitely with DAT. d-clear: the best dat-clear so far. Look it up in planar's archive! :) Oh, i forgot something when replying to Mr Hudson: bomb-dodgers usually plant a d-clear on the bomb-location, for the simple reason that most stones also have imp-spiral components. 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Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 30 01:01:24 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TN1NA10364 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0TN1LQA014178 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0TN1LY13854 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:01:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15636; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:01:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:01:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030129015524.8905.qmail@web41503.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Joshua Hudson wrote: > >From: "Harbinger of Doom" > >that a lot of people create "clumsy 0.33c clears" > so > > I am working on a stone/imp that relies on the imp > to finish the > core-clear. The stone bombs about 75% or core > (mod-1) before > suiciding, leaving the imps to clean up. I don't > fear a gate, as > it is very unlikely for any gate to survive the > bombing run. > Any nasty bomb-dodger is going to be in for an > unplesent surprise > when its perfectly placed clear gets nailed. A few points: I'm not sure an imp is the right way to follow a stone that does not even bomb all the core once. A spiral, after all, can only kill something that has less than x processes, where x is the number of points in the spiral. Usually, you'll launch a 3 or 7, sometimes 11 -points spiral (you need more than one process/point for durability, and to not hit a gate too early, and more processes slow down the main warrior a lot); ie, if your opponent has more than 3, or 7 or 11 processes, you will - at best - tie with it. A stone will usually have either or both more than one part; imps "tend" to tie each other, and a clear will usually have a gate. Conclusion? The spiral can only reasonably be expected kill a scanner, which the stone component already beats. This is why spirals are usually used as tying component (against papers or other stones). I would either make sure the stone self-modifies instead of killing itself, thus bombing all the core at least once, or (and, if possible) ending with a clear, no matter how slow it is. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 30 11:38:51 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0U9coA29116 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:38:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0U9clQA018451 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:38:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0U9ckY10028 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:38:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21246; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:32:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:32:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de (Sascha Zapf) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Ilmari Karonen wrote in message news:<1043794124.10067@itz.pp.sci.fi>... > In article , Harbinger of Doom wrote: > > > > so this time, I don't know what the .5c stands for. > > In physics, "c" commonly means the speed of light, the maximum speed > anything in the universe can travel. In CW, by analogy, it means the > maximum speed at which data can be moved: 1 instruction per cycle. > > So a 0.5c bomber throws, on average, one bomb in every two cycles. Note > that speeds over 1c can be meaningful, as long as what is being measured > is not data copying. For example, qscanners scan at 2c, and a decrement > stream can be laid out at 3c using an unrolled decoy-maker. > Can you post some Recode that's 3c-Dekrements.. 2c .. OK, you can Use the nop command, but 3c is to heavy to understand for me Sascha From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Jan 30 17:40:45 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0UFeiA23031 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:40:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0UFegQA010923 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:40:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0UFeefu019017 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:40:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA23327; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:33:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:33:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: waknuk@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: waknuk@yahoo.com To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Jargon X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Sascha Zapf wrote: > Ilmari Karonen wrote in message news:<1043794124.10067@itz.pp.sci.fi>... >> [snip] >> is not data copying. For example, qscanners scan at 2c, and a decrement >> stream can be laid out at 3c using an unrolled decoy-maker. >> > > Can you post some Recode that's 3c-Dekrements.. > > 2c .. OK, you can Use the nop command, but 3c is to heavy to understand for me > > Sascha Take a look at the decoy in He Scans Alone http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/94/HILL/hescansalone.red Also searching the newsgroup via google for "3c decoy" will throw up many entries, e.g. this from Joonas: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=Pine.OSF.3.96.980723211306.21030A-100000%40vesuri.Helsinki.FI -- Philb From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 31 13:32:16 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0VBWFA21487 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:32:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0VBWCQA010644 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:32:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0VBW8Y10617 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:32:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA02348; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:30:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:30:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: anton@paradise.net.nz Originator: faqserv@penguin-lust.mit.edu Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: anton@paradise.net.nz (Anton Marsden) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Core War Frequently Asked Questions (rec.games.corewar FAQ) X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Archive-name: games/corewar-faq Last-Modified: September 4, 1999 Version: 4.2 URL: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~anton/cw/corewar-faq.html Copyright: (c) 1999 Anton Marsden Maintainer: Anton Marsden Posting-Frequency: once every 2 weeks Core War Frequently Asked Questions (rec.games.corewar FAQ) These are the Frequently Asked Questions (and answers) from the Usenet newsgroup rec.games.corewar. A plain text version of this document is posted every two weeks. The latest hypertext version is available at http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~anton/cw/corewar-faq.html and the latest plain text version is available at http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/~anton/cw/corewar-faq.txt. This document is currently being maintained by Anton Marsden (anton@paradise.net.nz). Last modified: Sat Sep 4 00:22:22 NZST 1999 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Do * Add the new No-PSpace '94 hill location * Add online location of Dewdney's articles * Make question 17 easier to understand. Add a state diagram? * Add info about infinite hills, related games (C-Robots, Tierra?, ...) * New question: How do I know if my warrior is any good? Refer to beginners' benchmarks, etc. * Add a Who's Who list? * Would very much like someone to compile a collection of the "revolutionary" warriors so that beginners can see how the game has developed over the years. Mail me if interested. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ What's New * Changed primary location of FAQ (again!) * Changed Philip Kendall's home page address. * Updated list server information * Changed primary location of FAQ * Vector-launching code was fixed thanks to Ting Hsu. * Changed the location of Ryan Coleman's paper (LaunchPad -> Launchpad) * Changed pauillac.inria.fr to para.inria.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Table of Contents 1. What is Core War 2. Is it "Core War" or "Core Wars"? 3. Where can I find more information about Core War? 4. Core War has changed since Dewdney's articles. Where do I get a copy of the current instruction set? 5. What is ICWS'94? Which simulators support ICWS'94? 6. What is the ICWS? 7. What is Core Warrior? 8. Where are the Core War archives? 9. Where can I find a Core War system for ...? 10. Where can I find warrior code? 11. I do not have FTP. How do I get all this great stuff? 12. I do not have access to Usenet. How do I post and receive news? 13. Are there any Core War related WWW sites? 14. What is KotH? How do I enter? 15. Is it DAT 0, 0 or DAT #0, #0? How do I compare to core? 16. How does SLT (Skip if Less Than) work? 17. What is the difference between in-register and in-memory evaluation? 18. What is P-space? 19. What does "Missing ;assert .." in my message from KotH mean? 20. How should I format my code? 21. Are there any other Core War related resources I should know about? 22. What does (expression or term of your choice) mean? 23. Other questions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. What is Core War? Core War is a game played by two or more programs (and vicariously by their authors) written in an assembly language called Redcode and run in a virtual computer called MARS (for Memory Array Redcode Simulator). The object of the game is to cause all processes of the opposing program to terminate, leaving your program in sole posession of the machine. There are Core War systems available for most computer platforms. Redcode has been standardised by the ICWS, and is therefore transportable between all standard Core War systems. The system in which the programs run is quite simple. The core (the memory of the simulated computer) is a continuous array of instructions, empty except for the competing programs. The core wraps around, so that after the last instruction comes the first one again. There are no absolute addresses in Core War. That is, the address 0 doesn't mean the first instruction in the memory, but the instruction that contains the address 0. The next instruction is 1, and the previous one obviously -1. However, all numbers are treated as positive, and are in the range 0 to CORESIZE-1 where CORESIZE is the amount of memory locations in the core - this means that -1 would be treated as CORESIZE-1 in any arithmetic operations, eg. 3218 + 7856 = (3218 + 7856) mod CORESIZE. Many people get confused by this, and it is particularly important when using the SLT instruction. Note that the source code of a program can still contain negative numbers, but if you start using instructions like DIV #-2, #5 it is important to know what effect they will have when executed. The basic unit of memory in Core War is one instruction. Each Redcode instruction contains three parts: * the opcode * the source address (a.k.a. the A-field) * the destination address (a.k.a. the B-field) The execution of the programs is equally simple. The MARS executes one instruction at a time, and then proceeds to the next one in the memory, unless the instruction explicitly tells it to jump to another address. If there is more than one program running, (as is usual) the programs execute alternately, one instruction at a time. The execution of each instruction takes the same time, one cycle, whether it is MOV, DIV or even DAT (which kills the process). Each program may have several processes running. These processes are stored in a task queue. When it is the program's turn to execute an instruction it dequeues a process and executes the corresponding instruction. Processes that are not killed during the execution of the instruction are put back into the task queue. Processes created by a SPL instruction are added to the task queue after the creating process is put back into the task queue. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. Is it "Core War" or "Core Wars"? Both terms are used. Early references were to Core War. Later references seem to use Core Wars. I prefer "Core War" to refer to the game in general, "core wars" to refer to more than one specific battle. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. Where can I find more information about Core War? Core War was first described in the Core War Guidelines of March, 1984 by D. G. Jones and A. K. Dewdney of the Department of Computer Science at The University of Western Ontario (Canada). Dewdney wrote several "Computer Recreations" articles in Scientific American which discussed Core War, starting with the May 1984 article. Those articles are contained in two anthologies: Library of Author Title Published ISBN Congress Call Number The Armchair Dewdney, Universe: An New York: W. QA76.6 .D517 A. K. Exploration of H. Freeman ©0-7167-1939-8 1988 Computer Worlds 1988 The Magic 0-7167-2125-2 Dewdney, Machine: A New York: W.(Hardcover), QA76.6 A. K. Handbook of H. Freeman ©0-7167-2144-9 .D5173 1990 Computer Sorcery 1990 (Paperback) A.K. Dewdney's articles are still the most readable introduction to Core War, even though the Redcode dialect described in there is no longer current. For those who are interested, Dewdney has a home page at http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4. Core War has changed since Dewdney's articles. Where do I get a copy of the current instruction set? A draft of the official standard (ICWS'88) is available as ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/documents/standards/redcode-icws-88.Z. This document is formatted awkwardly and contains ambiguous statements. For a more approachable intro to Redcode, take a look at Mark Durham's tutorials, ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/documents/tutorial.1.Z and ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/documents/tutorial.2.Z. Steven Morrell has prepared a more practically oriented Redcode tutorial that discusses different warrior classes with lots of example code. This and various other tutorials can be found at http://www.koth.org/papers.html. Even though ICWS'88 is still the "official" standard, you will find that most people are playing by ICWS'94 draft rules and extensions. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. What is ICWS'94? Which simulators support ICWS'94? There is an ongoing discussion about future enhancements to the Redcode language. A proposed new standard, dubbed ICWS'94, is currently being evaluated. A major change is the addition of "instruction modifiers" that allow instructions to modify A-field, B-field or both. Also new is a new addressing modes and unrestricted opcode and addressing mode combination ("no illegal instructions"). ICWS'94 is backwards compatible; i.e. ICWS'88 warriors will run correctly on an ICWS'94 system. Take a look at the ICWS'94 draft at ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/documents/icws94.0202.Z for more information. There is a HTML version of this document available at http://www.koth.org/info/icws94.html. You can try out the new standard by submitting warriors to the '94 hills of the KotH servers. Two corewar systems currently support ICWS'94, pMARS (many platforms) and Redcoder (Mac), both available at ftp://www.koth.org/corewar. Note that Redcoder only supports a subset of ICWS'94. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. What is the ICWS? About one year after Core War first appeared in Scientific American, the "International Core War Society" (ICWS) was established. Since that time, the ICWS has been responsible for the creation and maintenance of Core War standards and the running of Core War tournaments. There have been six annual tournaments and two standards (ICWS'86 and ICWS'88). The ICWS is no longer active. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7. What is Core Warrior? Following in the tradition of the Core War News Letter, Push Off, and The 94 Warrior, Core Warrior is a newsletter about strategies and current standings in Core War. Started in October 1995, back issues of Core Warrior (and the other newsletters) are available at http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/. There is also a Core Warrior index page at http://www.kendalls.demon.co.uk/pak21/corewar/warrior.html which has a summary of the contents of each issue of Core Warrior. Many of the earlier issues contain useful information for beginners. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 8. Where are the Core War archives? Many documents such as the guidelines and the ICWS standards along with previous tournament Redcode entries and complete Core War systems are available via anonymous ftp from ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/corewar. Also, most of past rec.games.corewar postings (including Redcode source listings) are archived there. Jon Blow (blojo@csua.berkeley.edu) is the archive administrator. When uploading to /pub/corewar/incoming, ask Jon to move your upload to the appropriate directory and announce it on the net. This site is mirrored at: * http://www.koth.org/corewar/ * ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/ * ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/para/doligez/cw/mirror The plain text version of this FAQ is automatically archived by news.answers (but this version is probably out-of-date). [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 9. Where can I find a Core War system for . . . ? Core War systems are available via anonymous FTP from www.koth.org in the corewar/systems directory. Currently, there are UNIX, IBM PC-compatible, Macintosh, and Amiga Core War systems available there. It is a good idea to check ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/incoming for program updates first. CAUTION! There are many, many Core War systems available which are NOT ICWS'88 (or even ICWS'86) compatible available at various archive sites other than www.koth.org. Generally, the older the program - the less likely it will be ICWS compatible. If you are looking for an ICWS'94 simulator, get pMARS, which is available for many platforms and can be downloaded from: * ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/corewar (original site) * ftp://www.koth.org/corewar (koth.org mirror) * ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/para/doligez/cw/mirror (Planar mirror) * http://www.nc5.infi.net/~wtnewton/corewar/ (Terry Newton) * ftp://members.aol.com/ofechner/corewar (Fechter) Notes: * If you have trouble running pMARS with a graphical display under Win95 then check out http://www.koth.org/pmars.html which should have a pointer to the latest compilation of pMARS for this environment. * RPMs for the Alpha, PowerPC, Sparc and i386 can be found at ftp://ftp.inria.fr/INRIA/Projects/para/doligez/cw/pmars-rpm/ Reviews of Core War systems would be greatly appreciated in the newsgroup and in the newsletter. Below is a not necessarily complete or up-to-date list of what's available at www.koth.org: MADgic41.lzh corewar for the Amiga, v4.1 MAD4041.lzh older version? MAD50B.lha corewar for the Amiga, beta version 5.0 Redcoder-21.hqx corewar for the Mac, supports ICWS'88 and '94 (without extensions) core-11.hqx corewar for the Mac core-wars-simulator.hqx same as core-11.hqx? corewar_unix_x11.tar.Z corewar for UNIX/X-windows, ICWS'86 but not ICWS'88 compatible koth31.tar.Z corewar for UNIX/X-windows. This program ran the former KotH server at intel.com koth.shar.Z older version kothpc.zip port of older version of KotH to the PC deluxe20c.tar.Z corewar for UNIX (broken X-windows or curses) and PC mars.tar.Z corewar for UNIX, likely not ICWS'88 compatible icons.zip corewar icons for MS-Windows macrored.zip a redcode macro-preprocessor (PC) c88v49.zip PC corewar, textmode display mars88.zip PC corewar, graphics mode display corwp302.zip PC corewar, textmode display, slowish mercury2.zip PC corewar written in assembly, fast! mtourn11.zip tournament scheduler for mercury (req. 4DOS) pmars08s.zip portable system, ICWS'88 and '94, runs on UNIX, PC, Mac, Amiga. C source archive pmars08s.tar.Z same as above pmars08.zip PC executables with graphics display, req 386+ macpmars02.sit.hqx pMARS executable for Mac (port of version 0.2) buggy, no display MacpMARS1.99a.cpt.hqx port of v0.8 for the Mac, with display and debugger MacpMARS1.0s.cpt.hqx C source (MPW, ThinkC) for Mac frontend pvms08.zip pMARS v0.8 for VMS build files/help (req. pmars08s.zip) ApMARS03.lha pMARS executable for Amiga (port of version 0.3.1) wincor11.zip MS-Windows system, shareware ($15) [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10. Where can I find warrior code? To learn the game, it is a good idea to study previously posted warrior code. The FTP archives have code in the ftp://www.koth.org/corewar/redcode directory. A clearly organized on-line warrior collection is available at the Core War web sites (see below). [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11. I do not have FTP. How do I get all this great stuff? There is an FTP email server at bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu. This address may no longer exist. I haven't tested it yet. Send email with a subject and body text of "help" (without the quotes) for more information on its usage. Note that many FTP email gateways are shutting down due to abuse. To get a current list of FTP email servers, look at the Accessing the Internet by E-mail FAQ posted to news.answers. If you don't have access to Usenet, you can retrieve this FAQ one of the following ways: * Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the body containing "send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email". * Send mail to mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk with the body containing "send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt". [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 12. I do not have access to Usenet. How do I post and receive news? To receive rec.games.corewar articles by email, join the COREWAR-L list run on the Koth.Org list processor. To join, send the message SUB COREWAR-L FirstName LastName to listproc@koth.org. You can send mail to corewar-l@koth.org to post even if you are not a member of the list. Responsible for the listserver is Scott J. Ellentuch (ttsg@ttsg.com). Servers that allow you to post (but not receive) articles are available. Refer to the Accessing the Internet by E-Mail FAQ for more information. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 13. Are there any Core War related WWW sites? You bet. Each of the two KotH sites sport a world-wide web server. Stormking's Core War page is http://www.koth.org; pizza's is http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pizza/koth . Damien Doligez (a.k.a. Planar) has a web page that features convenient access to regular newsletters (Push Off, The '94 Warrior, Core Warrior) and a well organized library of warriors: http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/. Convenient for U.S. users, this site is also mirrored at koth.org. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 14. What is KotH? How do I enter? King Of The Hill (KotH) is an ongoing Core War tournament available to anyone with email. You enter by submitting via email a Redcode program (warrior) with special comment lines. You will receive a reply indicating how well your program did against the current top programs "on the hill". There are two styles of KotH tournaments, "classical" and "multi-warrior". The "classical" KotH is a one-on-one tournament, that is your warrior will play 100 battles against each of the 20 other programs currently on the Hill. You receive 3 points for each win and 1 point for each tie. (The existing programs do not replay each other, but their previous battles are recalled.) All scores are updated to reflect your battles and all 21 programs are ranked from high to low. If you are number 21 you are pushed off the Hill, if you are higher than 21 someone else is pushed off. In "multi-warrior" KotH, all warriors on the hill fight each other at the same time. Score calculation is a bit more complex than for the one-on-one tournament. Briefly, points are awarded based on how many warriors survive until the end of a round. A warrior that survives by itself gets more points than a warrior that survives together with other warriors. Points are calculated from the formula (W*W-1)/S, where W is the total number of warriors and S the number of surviving warriors. The pMARS documentation has more information on multi-warrior scoring. The idea for an email-based Core War server came from David Lee. The original KotH was developed and run by William Shubert at Intel starting in 1991, and discontinued after almost three years of service. Currently, KotHs based on Bill's UNIX scripts but offering a wider variety of hills are are running at two sites: koth@koth.org is maintained by Scott J. Ellentuch (tuc@ttsg.com) and pizza@ecst.csuchico.edu by Thomas H. Davies (sd@ecst.csuchico.edu). Up until May '95, the two sites provided overlapping services, i.e. the some of the hill types were offered by both "pizza" and "stormking". To conserve resources, the different hill types are now divided up among the sites. The way you submit warriors to both KotHs is pretty much the same. Therefore, the entry rules described below apply to both "pizza" and "stormking" unless otherwise noted. Entry Rules for King of the Hill Corewar * Write a corewar program. KotH is fully ICWS '88 compatible, EXCEPT that a comma (",") is required between two arguments. * Put a line starting with ";redcode" (or ";redcode-94", etc., see below) at the top of your program. This MUST be the first line. Anything before it will be lost. If you wish to receive mail on every new entrant, use ";redcode verbose". Otherwise you will only receive mail if a challenger makes it onto the hill. Use ";redcode quiet" if you wish to receive mail only when you get shoved off the hill. Additionally, adding ";name " and ";author " will be helpful in the performance reports. Do NOT have a line beginning with ";address" in your code; this will confuse the mail daemon and you won't get mail back. Using ";name" is mandatory on the Pizza hills. In addition, it would be nice if you have lines beginning with ";strategy" that describe the algorithm you use. There are currently seven separate hills you can select by starting your program with ;redcode-94, ;redcode-b, ;redcode-lp, ;redcode-x, ;redcode, ;redcode-94x or ;redcode-94m. The former four run at "pizza", the latter three at "stormking". More information on these hills is listed below. * Mail this file to koth@koth.org or pizza@ecst.csuchico.edu. "Pizza" requires a subject of "koth" (use the -s flag on most mailers). * Within a few minutes you should get mail back telling you whether your program assembled correctly or not. If it did assemble correctly, sit back and wait; if not, make the change required and re-submit. * In an hour or so you should get more mail telling you how your program performed against the current top 20 (or 10) programs. If no news arrives during that time, don't worry; entries are put in a queue and run through the tournament one at a time. A backlog may develop. Be patient. If your program makes it onto the hill, you will get mail every time a new program makes it onto the hill. If this is too much mail, you can use ";redcode[-??] quiet" when you first mail in your program; then you will only get mail when you make it on the top 25 list or when you are knocked off. Using ";redcode[-??] verbose" will give you even more mail; here you get mail every time a new challenger arrives, even if they don't make it onto the top 25 list. Often programmers want to try out slight variations in their programs. If you already have a program named "foo V1.0" on the hill, adding the line ";kill foo" to a new program will automatically bump foo 1.0 off the hill. Just ";kill" will remove all of your programs when you submit the new one. The server kills programs by assigning an impossibly low score; it may therefore take another successful challenge before a killed program is actually removed from the hill. Sample Entry ;redcode ;name Dwarf ;author A. K. Dewdney ;strategy Throw DAT bombs around memory, hitting every 4th memory cell. ;strategy This program was presented in the first Corewar article. bomb DAT #0 dwarf ADD #4, bomb MOV bomb, @bomb JMP dwarf END dwarf ; Programs start at the first line unless ; an "END start" pseudo-op appears to indicate ; the first logical instruction. Also, nothing ; after the END instruction will be assembled. Duration Max. Hill Name Hill Core Max. Before Entry Min. Rounds Instr. Size Size Processes Distance Fought Set Tie Length Pizza's ICWS '94 Draft Hill Extended (Accessed with 25 8000 8000 80000 100 100 200 ICWS '94 ";redcode-94") Draft Pizza's Beginner's Extended Hill (Accessed 25 8000 8000 80000 100 100 200 ICWS '94 with ";redcode-b") Draft Pizza's Experimental Extended (Small) Hill 25 800 800 8000 20 20 200 ICWS '94 (Accessed with Draft ";redcode-x") Pizza's Limited Process (LP) Hill Extended (Accessed with 25 8000 8 80000 200 200 200 ICWS '94 ";redcode-lp") Draft Stormking's ICWS '88 Standard Hill (Accessed with 20 8000 8000 80000 100 100 250 ICWS '88 ";redcode") Stormking's ICWS '94 No Pspace Hill (Accessed with 20 8000 8000 80000 100 100 250 ICWS '94 ";redcode-94nop") Stormking's ICWS '94 Experimental Extended (Big) Hill 20 55440 55440 500000 200 200 250 ICWS '94 (Accessed with Draft ";redcode-94x") Stormking's ICWS '94 Multi-Warrior Extended Hill (Accessed 10 8000 8000 80000 100 100 200 ICWS '94 with Draft ";redcode-94m") Note: Warriors on the beginner's hill are retired at age 100. If you just want to get a status report without actually challenging the hills, send email with ";status" as the message body (and don't forget "Subject: koth" for "pizza"). If you send mail to "pizza" with "Subject: koth help" you will receive instructions that may be more up to date than those contained in this document. At "stormking", a message body with ";help" will return brief instructions. If you submit code containing a ";test" line, your warrior will be assembled but not actually pitted against the warriors on the hill. At "pizza", you can use ";redcode[-??] test" to do a test challenge of the Hill without affecting the status of the Hill. These challenges can be used to see how well your warrior does against the current Hill warriors. All hills run portable MARS (pMARS) version 0.8, a platform-independent Core War system available at www.koth.org. The '94 and '94x hills allow five experimental opcodes and three experimental addressing modes currently not covered in the ICWS'94 draft document: * LDP - Load P-Space * STP - Store P-Space * SEQ - Skip if EQual (synonym for CMP) * SNE - Skip if Not Equal * NOP - (No OPeration) * * - indirect using A-field as pointer * { - predecrement indirect using A-field * } - postincrement indirect using A-field [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 15. Is it DAT 0, 0 or DAT #0, #0? How do I compare to core? Core is initialized to DAT 0, 0. This is an illegal instruction (in source code) under ICWS'88 rules and strictly compliant assemblers (such as KotH or pmars -8) will not let you have a DAT 0, 0 instruction in your source code - only DAT #0, #0. So this begs the question, how to compare something to see if it is empty core. The answer is, most likely the instruction before your first instruction and the instruction after your last instruction are both DAT 0, 0. You can use them, or any other likely unmodified instructions, for comparison. Note that under ICWS'94, DAT 0, 0 is a legal instruction. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 16. How does SLT (Skip if Less Than) work? SLT gives some people trouble because of the way modular arithmetic works. It is important to note that all negative numbers are converted to positive numbers before a battles begins. Example: -1 becomes M-1 where M is the memory size (core size). Once you realize that all numbers are treated as positive, it is clear what is meant by "less than". It should also be clear that no number is less than zero. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 17. What is the difference between in-register and in-memory evaluation? These terms refer to the way instruction operands are evaluated. The '88 Redcode standard ICWS'88 is unclear about whether a simulator should "buffer" the result of A-operand evaluation before the B-operand is evaluated. Simulators that do buffer are said to use in-register evaluation, those that don't, in-memory evaluation. ICWS'94 clears this confusion by mandating in-register evaluation. Instructions that execute differently under these two forms of evaluation are MOV, ADD, SUB, MUL, DIV and MOD where the effective address of the A-operand is modified by evaluation of the B-operand. This is best illustrated by an example: L1 mov L2, mov.i #0, impsize Bootstrapping Strategy of copying the active portion of the program away from the initial location, leaving a decoy behind and making the relocated program as small as possible. B-Scanners Scanners which only recognize non-zero B-fields. example add #10, scan scan jmz example, 10 c Measure of speed, equal to one location per cycle. Speed of light. CMP-Scanner A Scanner which uses a CMP instruction to look for opponents. example add step, scan scan cmp 10, 30 jmp attack jmp example step dat #20, #20 Colour Property of bombs making them visible to scanners, causing them to attack useless locations, thus slowing them down. example dat #100 Core-Clear Code that sequentially overwrites core with DAT instructions; usually the last part of a program. Decoys Bogus or unused instructions meant to slow down scanners. Typically, DATs with non-zero B-fields. Decrement Resistant Property of warriors making them functional (or at least partially functional) when overrun by a DJN-stream. DJN-Stream (also DJN-Train) Using a DJN command to rapidly decrement core locations. example ... ... djn example, <4000 Dwarf The prototypical small bomber. Gate-busting (also gate-crashing) technique to "interweave" a decrement-resistant imp-spiral (e.g. MOV 0, 2668) with a standard one to overrun imp-gates. Hybrids warriors that combine two or more of the basic strategies, either in sequence (e.g. stone->paper) or in parallel (e.g. imp/stone). Imp Program which only uses the MOV instruction. example mov 0, 1 or example mov 0, 2 mov 0, 2 Imp-Gate A location in core which is bombed or decremented continuously so that an Imp can not pass. Also used to describe the program-code which maintains the gate. example ... ... spl 0, mov.i #0,IMPSIZE Mirror see reflection. On-axis/off-axis On-axis scanners compare two locations M/2 apart, where M is the memory size. Off-axis scanners use some other separation. Optimal Constants (also optima-type constants) Bomb or scan increments chosen to cover core most effectively, i.e. leaving gaps of uniform size. Programs to calculate optimal constants and lists of optimal numbers are available at www.koth.org. Paper A Paper-like program is one which replicates itself many times. Part of the Scissors (beats) Paper (beats) Stone (beats Scissors) analogy. P-Warrior A warrior which uses the results of previous round(s) in order to determine which strategy it will use. Pit-Trapper (also Slaver, Vampire). A program which enslaves another. Usually accomplished by bombing with JMPs to a SPL 0 pit with an optional core-clear routine. Q^2 Scan A modern version of the Quick Scan where anything found is attacked almost immediately. Quick Scan 2c scan of a set group of core locations with bombing if anything is found. Both of the following codes snips scan 16 locations and check for a find. If anything is found, it is attacked, otherwise 16 more locations are scanned. Example: start s1 for 8 ;'88 scan cmp start+100*s1, start+100*s1+4000 ;check two locations mov #start+100*s1-found, found ;they differ so set pointer rof jmn attack, found ;if we have something, get it s2 for 8 cmp start+100*(s2+6), start+100*(s2+6)+4000 mov #start+100*(s2+6)-found, found rof found jmz moveme, #0 ;skip attack if qscan found nothing attack cmp @found, start-1 ;does found points to empty space? add #4000, found ;no, so point to correct location mov start-1, @found ;move a bomb moveme jmp 0, 0 In ICWS'94, the quick scan code is more compact because of the SNE opcode: start ;'94 scan s1 for 4 sne start+400*s1, start+400*s1+100 ;check two locations seq start+400*s1+200, start+400*s1+300 ;check two locations mov #start+400*s1-found, found ;they differ so set pointer rof jmn which, found ;if we have something, get it s2 for 4 sne start+400*(s2+4), start+400*(s2+4)+100 seq start+400*(s2+4)+200, start+400*(s2+4)+300 mov #start+400*(s2+4)-found-100, found rof found jmz moveme, #0 ;skip attack if qscan found nothing add #100, -1 ;increment pointer till we get the which jmn -1, @found ;right place mov start-1, @found ;move a bomb moveme jmp 0, 0 Reflection Copy of a program or program part, positioned to make the active program invisible to a CMP-scanner. Replicator Generic for Paper. A program which makes many copies of itself, each copy also making copies. Self-Splitting Strategy of amplifying the number of processes executing a piece of code. example spl 0 loop add #10, example mov example, @example jmp loop Scanner A program which searches through core for an opponent rather than bombing blindly. Scissors A program designed to beat replicators, usually a (B-field scanning) vampire. Part of the Paper-Scissors-Stone analogy. Self-Repair Ability of a program to fix it's own code after attack. Silk A replicator which splits off a process to each new copy before actually copying the code. This allows it to replicate extremely quickly. This technique is only possible under the '94 draft, because it requires post-increment indirect addressing. Example: spl 1 mov -1, 0 spl 1 ;generate 6 consecutive processes silk spl 3620, #0 ;split to new copy mov >-1, }-1 ;copy self to new location mov bomb, >2000 ;linear bombing mov bomb, }2042 ;A-indirect bombing for anti-vamp jmp silk, {silk ;reset source pointer, make new copy bomb dat >2667, >5334 ;anti-imp bomb Slaver see Pit-Trapper. Stealth Property of programs, or program parts, which are invisible to scanners, accomplished by using zero B-fields and reflections. Stone A Stone-like program designed to be a small bomber. Part of the Paper-Scissors-Stone analogy. Stun A type of bomb which makes the opponent multiply useless processes, thus slowing it down. Example is referred to as a SPL-JMP bomb. example spl 0 jmp -1 Two-Pass Core-Clear (also SPL/DAT Core-Clear) core clear that fills core first with SPL instructions, then with DATs. This is very effective in killing paper and certain imp-spiral variations. Vampire see Pit-Trapper. Vector Launch one of several means to start an imp-spiral running. As fast as Binary Launch, but requiring much less code. See also JMP/ADD Launch and Binary Launch. This example is one form of a Vector Launch: sz EQU 2667 spl 1 spl 1 jmp @vt, }0 vt dat #0, imp+0*sz ; start of vector table dat #0, imp+1*sz dat #0, imp+2*sz dat #0, imp+3*sz ; end of vector table imp mov.i #0, sz [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 23. Other questions? Just ask in the rec.games.corewar newsgroup or contact me. If you are shy, check out the Core War archives first to see if your question has been answered before. [ToC] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Credits Additions, corrections, etc. to this document are solicited. Thanks in particular to the following people who have contributed major portions of this document: * Mark Durham (wrote the original version of the FAQ) * Paul Kline * Randy Graham * Stefan Strack (maintained a recent version of the FAQ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Copyright © 1999 Anton Marsden. Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Jan 31 18:31:41 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0VGVeA05060 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:31:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h0VGVaQA011025 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:31:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h0VGVZY02528 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:31:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04060; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:30:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:30:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <21069731.0301310754.68ca2ac0@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: john.reder@tacticalneuronics.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: john.reder@tacticalneuronics.com (John Reder) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: A.I. Wars (Armor Commander) just released! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: A.I. Wars (Armor Commander) is, at its heart, an educational program, designed to teach its players how to design and program A.I. It uses its own programming language (similar to the BASIC computer language taught in schools) called Common Artificial Intelligence Command Language (CAICL). It's easy to learn with commands like ‘move forward', ‘turn right' and ‘launch missile' but the language has many features found in programs written by seasoned programmers allowing its players to improve their skills and code making their A.I. harder and harder to defeat in battle. Battle simulations are in full 3D with music and sound. You can watch your tank roll across the battlefield searching and fighting other tanks in the simulation, solving navigational challenges and using its array of weapons and sensors to search and destroy its competition. With the ability to swap tank A.I.'s with friends via e-mail and participate in ongoing tournaments, It's the most fun you ever have programming! You can read more on the Tactical Neuronics web site at: http://www.TacticalNeuronics.com/content/aiwac.asp From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Feb 2 17:36:14 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.Helsinki.FI [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h12FaE3e133393 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:36:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h12FaBQA023729 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:36:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h12FaAY24860 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 17:36:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA24337; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:34:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:34:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302020609.145d4ba0@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frency 2: The Smart-Switching Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ...................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Smart-Switching Round | \___________________________/ Here are some questions I received regarding the rules for this round. 1) is my switcher allowed to suicide? Yes, it is allowed. 2) is my switcher allowed to enter an infinite loop? No, it is not allowed. 3) is my switcher allowed to modify a component it does not launch? Ok, yes, it is allowed. But it is not allowed to modify a component it does launch, except the a- and b- value of CLP's stp instrution. 4) can I place the components where I wish in my warrior, or do they have to be arranged as found in round7.txt? The components can be arranged as you wish. If there are more questions, feel free to contact me or to post it here. I will answer them as soon as possible. Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 3 03:35:24 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.Helsinki.FI [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h131ZO3e178910 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:35:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h131ZJQA025623 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:35:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h131ZHfu028185 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:35:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27766; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:32:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:32:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kogun@studiogangster.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: kogun@studiogangster.com (Kogun) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I hope this wasn't something malicious, like a virus... I absent-mindedly clicked the link, and it said redirecting... I didn't stick around long enough to find out what it was. Seems theres alot of junk in this group lately... Kogun demonn026@yahoo.com (Robert) wrote in message news:<19effe04.0302012024.66e8bbc@posting.google.com>... > click on link below: > http://home.drenik.net/marinn/ > > nice stuff. > > > > regards, > robby From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 3 09:33:17 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.Helsinki.FI [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h137XG3e206658 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:33:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h137XDQA012933 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:33:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h137XCfu005765 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:33:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA29900; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 02:32:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 02:32:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5ko%9.385011$TJ.55567@post-02.news.easynews.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: jazzerciser@coolmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: - To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 2 Feb 2003 16:17:23 -0800, Kogun wrote: > I hope this wasn't something malicious, like a virus... I > absent-mindedly clicked the link, and it said redirecting... I didn't > stick around long enough to find out what it was. Seems theres alot > of junk in this group lately... > > Kogun Yes, and some of it has your name on it. > demonn026@yahoo.com (Robert) wrote in message news:<19effe04.0302012024.66e8bbc@posting.google.com>... > > click on link below: > > http://home.drenik.net/marinn/ > > > > nice stuff. > > > > > > > > regards, > > robby > -- -regards -jb From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 4 05:37:47 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h143bk3e381683 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:37:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h143bhQA025173 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:37:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h143bgY10256 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 05:37:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA08189; Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:34:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:34:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: kogun@studiogangster.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: kogun@studiogangster.com (Kogun) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: What's this all about?! "Yes, and some of it has 'your' name on it"?! And jazzercise, are you saying that wasn'tyou that posted that? I'm confused... You'da thunk a go group would be lite on all immature hijinks. Kogun From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 4 14:33:03 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h14CX33e468347 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:33:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h14CX1QA007729 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:33:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h14CX0Y11568 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:33:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA12732; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:29:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:29:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: johnkimb@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: John Kimball To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Proof that mixing large quantities of alcohol and Thorazine together is not a good idea; on Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:08:36 GMT jazzerciser@coolmail.com (-) blew their wad in Message id: <3e3e14e6.194251699@news.cis.dfn.de>: > > Previous was another -FORGED- post. > Jew hating liar. > > > - regards > - jb > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, btw. > but not my header: > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Path: ... >easynews!easynews-local!post-02.news.easynews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail >From: - >Newsgroups: >rec.games.corewar,rec.games.design,rec.games.diplomacy,rec.games.empire,rec.games.go >Subject: Re: Something very interesting... >References: <19effe04.0302012024.66e8bbc@posting.google.com> > >X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.50 >Lines: 29 >Message-ID: <5ko%9.385011$TJ.55567@post-02.news.easynews.com> >X-Complaints-To: abuse@easynews.com >Organization: EasyNews, UseNet made Easy! - Test our service with our FREE >trial at https://www.easynews.com/trial/trial.phtml >X-Complaints-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers >otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. >Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 06:51:45 GMT >Xref: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu rec.games.corewar:4932 rec.games.design:12782 >rec.games.diplomacy:46904 rec.games.empire:8476 rec.games.go:48799 > > -- "Wiseman had a certain crude fuckhead-like charm." James Slurput AKA slurpRoutine hits bottom in Rimjob-ID: "Anyway, here's the deal, I'll unplonk you and entertain your faglames for a while longer if you unplonk James B. and allow him to once again slap you around with his razor sharp aol threads." James Slurput while making silly demands blows out the bottom of the fucking barrel just when you thought he couldn't sink any lower, in DeepThroat-id: From: "sub®outine" (James R. Koput) Message-ID: "FyRE was NOT a good flamer. He was weak, and that's why he resorted to mailbombings and forgeries." From: "James R. Koput" Message-ID: <4ja9p5$esv@aahz.magic.mb.ca> "I just sent you sixteen messages. I know you got them. It was my feeble attempt to mailbomb you back." From: "subRoutine" (James R. Koput) Message-ID: "Besides my bombs send upwards of ten thousand in one day give or take a few depending on how many times I feel like repeating the formula." From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 4 15:31:51 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h14DVp3e482228 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:31:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h14DVnQA016538 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:31:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h14DVmfu025945 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:31:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA13167; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:29:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:29:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: tjohnNO11111SPAM@aol.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Thomas Johnson" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Kogun" wrote in message news:e6127dae.0302031832.7c0f61dd@posting.google.com... > What's this all about?! "Yes, and some of it has 'your' name on it"?! > > And jazzercise, are you saying that wasn'tyou that posted that? I'm > confused... You'da thunk a go group would be lite on all immature > hijinks. > > Kogun Gentlemen, Stop putting junk on rec.games.empire. If you like playing games, join an Empire game. Information found at www.empire.cx. If you do not have the guts to play a real strategy game, stay off our newsgroup. Tom From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 4 16:32:47 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h14EWl3e494685 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:32:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h14EWjQA024274 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:32:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h14EWiY21121 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:32:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13639; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:30:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:30:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302040545.336f368b@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Redcoders Frency 1: The Multi-Maniac Round **Results** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Multi-Maniac Round | \________________________/ This was the first round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/cwt.htm *********** * Results * *********** A total of 20 authors and 32 warriors take part in the Multi-Maniac Round. Although each author can enter two warriors as usual. (_v_) _|_ | | |-----+-----| ___________ .-=========-. | {{1}} | '._==_==_=_.' \'-=======-'/ | \=/ | .-\: /-. _| .=. |_ '---------' | (|:.{3} |) | ((| {{2}} |)) \ / '-|:. |-' \| /|\ |/ '. .' \::. / \__ '`' __/ | | '::. .' _`) (`_ .' '. ) ( _/_______\_ _|___|_ _.' '._ /___________\ [_______] [_______] 2nd place Winner 3rd place **************** **************** ******************* * Joshua * * Simon Duff * * Michal Janeczek * **************** **************** ******************* And the winner with a 24pts gap to the second is Simon Duff with its 1-line imp-gate, assisted by his second entry, an imp-bombing stone (without an imp-gate ;-). The second and third place goes to Joshua and Michal Janeczek, both using a core-clear. Congratulation to the impressive debut of the two newcomers Simon Duff and Joshua. .___. (| N |) The special price for the best newcomer goes to Simon Duff ( E ) for his 1st place. _)W(_ [_____] ._E_. (| V |) The special price for the best evolved warrior goes to ( O ) Will Varfar for his 8th place. _)L(_ [__V__] E # Name Author score % strategy ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 ProjectA2 Simon Duff 693475 100,0 imp-gate 2 Clear2 Joshua 527472 76,1 core-clear 3 cl 6b Michal Janeczek 503284 72,6 core-clear 4 Micron Joshua 468941 67,6 core-clear 5 Icegate John Metcalf 453312 65,4 stone 6 Lawn Mower Engine Ilmari Karonen 399143 57,6 core-clear 7 Spike John Metcalf 383718 55,3 vampire 8 brim-45430 Will Varfar 374222 54,0 evolved 9 Hospital Liquid Dave Hillis 363759 52,5 evolved 10 Counter stone German Labarga 359962 51,9 stone 11 Random Evolution 2801 20 Steve Gunnell 356110 51,4 evolved 12 Invasion from pMars Simon Wainwright 350951 50,6 stone 13 Jack of Shadows Steve Gunnell 335930 48,4 vampire 14 Mini CLP Michal Janeczek 331462 47,8 CLP 15 hostile Simon Wainwright 328300 47,3 oneshot 16 Unicorn Venom Dave Hillis 320076 46,2 evolved 17 Fish Lukasz Adamowski 298952 43,1 core-clear 18 MiniVamp v1 B. Cook 295882 42,7 vampire 19 Water Lukasz Adamowski 285564 41,2 imp 20 familiar...just kiddin Paul Khuong 283280 40,8 vampire 21 Earp Jnr Philip Thorne 277805 40,1 dodger 22 Go Go Go! Roy van Rijn 263182 38,0 core-clear 23 ProjectA Simon Duff 236383 34,1 stone 24 Nosferatu Sascha Zapf 235634 34,0 vampire 25 stn Lukasz Grabun 234964 33,9 stone 26 QLP-97b Lukasz Grabun 218910 31,6 scanner 27 Zcanner Roy van Rijn 211616 30,5 scanner 28 Thief Of Time IIa Darek L. 179367 25,9 stone 29 BloudBound Paul Khuong 176563 25,5 anti-vampire 30 Thief Of Time I Darek L. 158745 22,9 stone 31 test2 Christian m. 156763 22,6 hopper 32 Angelbaby Harbinger Of Doom 145304 21,0 scanner ------------------------------------------------------------------- To summarize the stategies used, there are 7 stones, 6 core-clears, 5 vampires, 4 evolved warriors, 3 scanner, and 1 imp-gate, CLP, oneshot, imp, dodger, anti-vampire and hopper. More detailed informations and all entries will be available soon on the Multi-Maniac webpage: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/6.htm Congratulations to everyone who has taken part this round. I hope to see you all next round again. *********** * Ranking * *********** There are no changes in the top spots. Michal Janeczek is still the clear leader of the tournament followed by Steve Gunnell and Dave Hillis. The highest new entrants are Simon Duff, Joshua and John Metcalf of overall 10 new players participating on this round. # Author Score R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Michal Janeczek 398.6 93.3 100.0 100.0 98.6 100.0 72.6 2 Steve Gunnell 367.8 91.0 85.0 82.4 96.2 95.6 48.4 3 Dave Hillis 359.2 99.9 84.3 87.3 87.7 50.9 52.5 4 Ben Ford 351.5 100.0 74.4 75.1 100.0 76.4 x 5 Philip Thorne 328.9 75.5 68.0 72.7 89.0 91.7 40.1 6 Simon Wainwright 322.1 79.1 71.5 89.1 79.0 74.9 50.6 7 Lukasz Grabun 298.0 81.3 x 67.6 70.7 78.4 33.9 8 Roy van Rijn 215.2 x x x 92.8 84.4 38.0 9 German Labarga 194.7 x x x 60.0 82.8 51.9 10 Christian Schmidt 173.4 x x x 90.7 82.7 * 11 Robert Macrae 150.7 89.7 61.0 x x x x 12 WFB 120.2 72.9 47.3 x x x x 13 David Moore 115.0 x 51.4 63.6 x x x 14 Simon Duff 100.0 x x x x x 100.0 15 Martin Ankerl 88.2 88.2 x x x x x 16 Ken Espiritu 86.3 x x 86.3 x x x 17 Sascha Zapf 85.1 x x x x 51.1 34.0 18 Leonardo H. Liporati 84.3 84.3 x x x x x 19 Joshua 76.1 x x x x x 76.1 20 mushroommaker 71.3 71.3 x x x x x 21 Arek Paterek 66.0 66.0 x x x x x 22 John Metcalf 65.4 * * * * * 65.4 23 Paul Drake 61.9 61.9 x x x x x 24 Darek L. 61.1 x x x 35.2 x 25.9 25 Sheep 60.2 x x x 60.2 x x 26 Ilmari Karonen 57.6 x x x x x 57.6 27 Will Varfar 54.0 x x x x x 54.0 28 Compudemon 53.9 53.9 x x x x x 29 Lukasz Adamowski 43.1 x x x x x 43.1 30 B. Cook 42.7 x x x x x 42.7 31 Paul Khuong 40.8 x x x x x 40.8 32 bvowk 27.0 x x x 27.0 x x 33 christian m. 22.6 x x x x x 22.6 34 Harbinger Of Doom 21.0 x x x x x 21.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Organizer 5 authors participated on all six rounds, 2 authors on five rounds, 2 authors on three rounds, 6 authors on two rounds and 19 authors on just one round. ................................................................ From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 4 20:31:24 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h14IVN3e005730 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:31:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h14IVLQA022405 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:31:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h14IVJfu026041 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:31:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15088; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:30:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:30:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030204110920.B92266-100000@shell.cifnet.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: geenius@cifnet.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Geenius at Wrok To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 3 Feb 2003, Kogun wrote: > And jazzercise, are you saying that wasn'tyou that posted that? I'm > confused... You'da thunk a go group would be lite on all immature > hijinks. You'd be wrong. -- Defenceless under the night our world in stupor lies; yet, dotted everywhere, ironic points of light flash out wherever the Just exchange their messages... --W.H. Auden ······················································ Keith Ammann is geenius@cifnet.com -§- Lun Yu 2:24 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 02:32:34 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h150WY3e046413 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h150WWQA013454 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h150WVY27343 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17292; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:31:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:31:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302030509.AAA06610@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 02/03/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/03/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Feb 1 17:55:53 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 45/ 49/ 7 Claw Fizmo 141 378 2 32/ 25/ 43 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 139 641 3 40/ 41/ 19 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 138 95 4 32/ 27/ 41 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 138 15 5 29/ 24/ 46 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 134 1410 6 38/ 42/ 20 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 134 259 7 25/ 17/ 58 Dawn Roy van Rijn 134 26 8 25/ 16/ 60 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 134 143 9 27/ 20/ 54 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 134 247 10 33/ 32/ 35 My First Paper Michal Janeczek 133 9 11 38/ 43/ 18 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 133 185 12 37/ 41/ 22 t.A.T.u Girls Rule John Metcalf 132 37 13 26/ 20/ 54 Firestorm John Metcalf 131 446 14 20/ 9/ 71 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 131 337 15 36/ 41/ 24 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 131 172 16 35/ 41/ 24 Driftwood John Metcalf 129 94 17 29/ 29/ 42 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 128 58 18 25/ 24/ 51 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 127 448 19 38/ 50/ 12 Scanner Lukasz Grabun 127 1 20 37/ 48/ 15 Kenshin X test 57 Steve Gunnell 126 5 21 17/ 24/ 59 Paradiddle Sheep 111 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 02:32:34 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h150WY3e046412 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h150WXQA013455 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h150WWY27348 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17326; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302030506.AAA06541@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 02/03/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/03/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Feb 1 18:46:43 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 48/ 39/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 157 40 2 30/ 25/ 45 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 136 72 3 36/ 37/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 136 136 4 25/ 18/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 80 5 19/ 8/ 73 Denial David Moore 130 81 6 32/ 34/ 35 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 130 23 7 20/ 11/ 68 Kin John Metcalf 129 48 8 18/ 7/ 74 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 129 209 9 33/ 38/ 29 Ogre Christian Schmidt 129 88 10 26/ 25/ 49 Olivia X Ben Ford 128 21 11 24/ 21/ 55 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 127 162 12 29/ 33/ 38 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 125 69 13 30/ 35/ 35 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 125 140 14 21/ 19/ 60 Glenstorm John Metcalf 124 2 15 25/ 29/ 46 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 122 79 16 12/ 6/ 82 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 119 157 17 30/ 41/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 118 35 18 11/ 6/ 83 Black Box v1.1 JKW 116 103 19 26/ 38/ 36 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 114 1 20 26/ 42/ 32 Bugtown Rap 19 Steve Gunnell 111 5 21 14/ 23/ 63 Paradiddle Sheep 106 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 02:32:57 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h150Wv3e046293 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h150WtQA013537 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h150Wsfu027175 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:32:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17358; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302030503.AAA06472@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 02/03/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/03/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 2 23:40:37 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 fclear Brian Haskin 16 178 2 Dawn Roy van Rijn 16 10 3 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 16 83 4 trial John Metcalf 15 98 5 SiSterS [2b] Sheep 15 7 6 Her Majesty P.Kline 14 213 7 Wyatt Earp Philip Thorne 13 1 8 iTest John Metcalf 12 48 9 Bugtown Rap Steve Gunnell 10 3 10 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 8 194 11 _ _ 0 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 02:33:24 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h150XO3e046454 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:33:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h150XMQA013629 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h150XKfu027255 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 02:33:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17395; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:32:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302030500.AAA06382@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 02/03/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/03/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Fri Jan 31 06:37:32 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 40/ 21/ 39 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 158 5 2 37/ 22/ 41 Freight Train David Moore 152 170 3 36/ 22/ 42 Guardian Ian Oversby 150 169 4 36/ 22/ 42 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 149 109 5 45/ 43/ 11 vm5 Michal Janeczek 147 4 6 43/ 39/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 146 1 7 46/ 46/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 145 8 8 35/ 26/ 39 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 144 127 9 42/ 42/ 16 '88 test IV John Metcalf 142 63 10 37/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 142 92 11 43/ 46/ 11 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 141 166 12 30/ 20/ 50 Test I Ian Oversby 141 226 13 43/ 45/ 12 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 141 207 14 32/ 24/ 44 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 140 125 15 38/ 35/ 27 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 140 56 16 39/ 40/ 21 PacMan David Moore 139 199 17 29/ 19/ 52 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 139 183 18 40/ 43/ 17 Stasis David Moore 137 277 19 39/ 43/ 17 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 135 445 20 29/ 32/ 39 Fat Expansion (V) Philip Thorne (RM/JM 127 2 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 Roy van Rijn 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 05:46:54 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h153kr3e072501 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:46:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h153kjQA024332 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:46:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h153khfu002324 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 05:46:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA18985; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:45:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:45:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030205032203.15766.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frency 1: The Multi-Maniac Round **Results** MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Fizmo wrote [...] > To summarize the stategies used, there are 7 stones, > 6 core-clears, > 5 vampires, 4 evolved warriors, 3 scanner, and 1 > imp-gate, CLP, > oneshot, imp, dodger, anti-vampire and hopper. OK, i didn't really debug my entry a lot, but i do hope BloodBound wasn't an ANTI-vampire! That would be quite ironic since it's actually scanning for fangs left by Familiar, and then jumping to the one it finds. Paul Khuong PS, I'm impatiently waiting to see how the other vampires were built ;) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 15:41:28 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h15DfS3e208721 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:41:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h15DfQQA009960 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:41:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h15DfOfu009220 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 15:41:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23823; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:34:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:34:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302050405.58fe44a6@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frency 1: The Multi-Maniac Round **Results** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > OK, i didn't really debug my entry a lot, but i do > hope BloodBound wasn't an ANTI-vampire! That would be > quite ironic since it's actually scanning for fangs > left by Familiar, and then jumping to the one it > finds. Ups. Yes, you're right. I didn't look carefull enough to your entry. Well, I didn't found/can't remember a name for this kind of strategy, so how it should be named? Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 5 21:29:46 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h15JTk3e264760 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:29:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h15JTiQA017340 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:29:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h15JTgfu022093 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:29:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA25982; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:29:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:29:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: mike_on_usenet@mlease.mailbolt.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: mike_on_usenet@mlease.mailbolt.com (Mike Lease) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Yeah? How do we know that? All *I* know is that you've broadcast a link without any explanation (until now) as to what it is. That's certainly a good way to pick up a virus. I never click on strange links, unless I know who posted it and what it's about. -Mike demonn026@yahoo.com (Robert) wrote in message news:<19effe04.0302041406.1d4bd6ea@posting.google.com>... > HEY, it's not a virus, its an cool game > relax. > > regards > robby > > kogun@studiogangster.com (Kogun) wrote in message > news:... > > I hope this wasn't something malicious, like a virus... I > > absent-mindedly clicked the link, and it said redirecting... I didn't > > stick around long enough to find out what it was. Seems theres alot > > of junk in this group lately... > > > > Kogun > > > > demonn026@yahoo.com (Robert) wrote in message news:<19effe04.0302012024.66e8bbc@posting.google.com>... > > > click on link below: > > > http://home.drenik.net/marinn/ > > > > > > nice stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > robby From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 6 00:31:52 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h15MVp3e286394 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:31:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h15MVnQA026236 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:31:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h15MVmY12195 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:31:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA27120; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:29:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:29:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dvdavins@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: "Mike Lease" wrote in message news:f42e8aed.0302051057.49496f89@posting.google.com... > Yeah? How do we know that? All *I* know is that you've broadcast > a link without any explanation (until now) as to what it is. That's > certainly a good way to pick up a virus. I never click on strange > links, unless I know who posted it and what it's about. If you have reasonable security settings on your browser, you won't pick up a virus by clicking on a link. > demonn026@yahoo.com (Robert) wrote in message news:<19effe04.0302041406.1d4bd6ea@posting.google.com>... > > HEY, it's not a virus, its an cool game From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 6 18:34:08 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h16GY73e432591 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:34:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h16GY5QA001456 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:34:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h16GY4Y10017 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 18:34:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05304; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:31:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:31:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: mike_on_usenet@mlease.mailbolt.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: mike_on_usenet@mlease.mailbolt.com (Mike Lease) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: wrote in message news:... > "Mike Lease" wrote in message > news:f42e8aed.0302051057.49496f89@posting.google.com... > > Yeah? How do we know that? All *I* know is that you've broadcast > > a link without any explanation (until now) as to what it is. That's > > certainly a good way to pick up a virus. I never click on strange > > links, unless I know who posted it and what it's about. > > If you have reasonable security settings on your browser, you won't pick up > a virus by clicking on a link. True, but a lot of people don't have reasonable security settings. Particularly those running some flavor of IE. Personally, I use Mozilla, with just about the most paranoid settings available. Unfortunately, there are a lot of jerks out there who think that screwing up other people's computers is amusing. -Mike --- To email me directly, and bypass my spam filters, please remove the "_on_usenet" bit from my address above. From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 7 17:33:22 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h17FXK3e088370 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:33:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h17FXIQA028840 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:33:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h17FXGfu024526 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:33:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15133; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:32:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:32:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5toQ+clNSm/c092yn@trends.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: tmpmizer@trends.net Originator: tmpmizer@trends.ca Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: tmpmizer@trends.net (Chris Schack) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: In article , wrote: >"Mike Lease" wrote in message >news:f42e8aed.0302051057.49496f89@posting.google.com... >> Yeah? How do we know that? All *I* know is that you've broadcast >> a link without any explanation (until now) as to what it is. That's >> certainly a good way to pick up a virus. I never click on strange >> links, unless I know who posted it and what it's about. > >If you have reasonable security settings on your browser, you won't pick up >a virus by clicking on a link. Meaning if you know how to reset the security settings, since IE at least doesn't seem as concerned as it should be... Chris Schack From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 7 19:34:42 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h17HYg3e103460 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:34:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h17HYeQA029610 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:34:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h17HYdY01006 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 19:34:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15966; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <45R0a.3856$tO2.441522@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: dvdavins@earthlink.net Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: "Chris Schack" wrote in message news:5toQ+clNSm/c092yn@trends.net... > In article , > wrote: > > > >If you have reasonable security settings on your browser, you won't pick up > >a virus by clicking on a link. > > Meaning if you know how to reset the security settings, since IE at > least doesn't seem as concerned as it should be... Which IE defaults do you think would let you get your computer infected? From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 7 22:35:13 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h17KZC3e121629 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h17KZAQA002085 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h17KZ9Y09137 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17129; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:34:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: charles.jones@hp.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Charles Jones To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: In article , tmpmizer@trends.net says... > This reminds me, I just installed a firewall, and I keep getting > messages about Enternet.exe being blocked. Anybody have any idea > what's going on? It's not access from my computer to the Internet... You must have broadband? http://www.nts.com/support/general.html CharlesJ -- ====================================================================== Works at HP, | Charles Jones | email: charles_jones@hp.com doesn't speak | Hewlett-Packard | ICQ: 29610755 for HP | Loveland, Colorado, USA | AIM: LovelandCharles From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 7 22:35:22 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h17KZM3e121652 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h17KZHQA002098 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h17KZHY09152 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:35:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17150; Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:35:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:35:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: tmpmizer@trends.net Originator: tmpmizer@trends.ca Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: tmpmizer@trends.net (Chris Schack) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Something very interesting... X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: In article , mike_on_usenet@mlease.mailbolt.com (Mike Lease) wrote: > wrote in message news:... >> If you have reasonable security settings on your browser, you won't pick up >> a virus by clicking on a link. > >True, but a lot of people don't have reasonable security settings. >Particularly those running some flavor of IE. Personally, I use >Mozilla, with just about the most paranoid settings available. >Unfortunately, there are a lot of jerks out there who think that >screwing up other people's computers is amusing. This reminds me, I just installed a firewall, and I keep getting messages about Enternet.exe being blocked. Anybody have any idea what's going on? It's not access from my computer to the Internet... Chris Schack From corewar-l@koth.org Sun Feb 9 20:32:11 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h19IWB3e320047 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:32:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h19IW9QA014468 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:32:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h19IW8Y21889 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:32:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA06604; Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:31:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:31:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87vfzttlki.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Pixie 88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Made just for fun as my first attempt to enter the 88 classic hill. Modified-accoridingly to 88 rules-Vortex launcher plus Pixie's stone make a good combo. Qscan is unshamely taken from Quicksilver 88 (does there exist any other 88 qscan?). Hopefully this one will bring some life into somewhat forgotten good old hill. ;redcode ;author Lukasz Grabun ;name Pixie 88 ;assert (CORESIZE==8000) ;strategy qscan -> stone/imp ;password grabek step equ 107 first equ (-115-1) hop equ (6916+1) gate equ (hop+m-1) soff equ 3467 ioff equ 3846 stone spl 0 , ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:22:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AFM3QA020576 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:22:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AFM2fu022091 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:22:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15415; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:21:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:21:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030210102852.45933.qmail@web21102.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: varfar@yahoo.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: =?iso-8859-1?q?will?= To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Species 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi folks, announcing the general availability of "Species" version 1.0 (browse CVS http://sourceforge.net/projects/redcoder) best regards, Will. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 10 17:28:18 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1AFSI3e483038 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AFSHQA022658 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AFSGY26539 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15585; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302100503.AAA20456@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 02/10/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/10/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 9 20:57:58 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 trial John Metcalf 7 104 2 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 7 89 3 Probe David Bendit 7 1 4 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 6 200 5 Surviver David Bendit 5 2 6 Her Majesty P.Kline 5 219 7 fclear Brian Haskin 5 184 8 Muskrat John Metcalf 4 3 9 Silk Christian ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AFSKQA022677 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AFSJY26548 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15561; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302100506.AAA20521@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 02/10/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/10/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sat Feb 8 22:50:56 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 47/ 40/ 12 Fire and Ice II David Moore 154 44 2 32/ 24/ 44 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 140 76 3 22/ 8/ 69 Denial David Moore 137 85 4 22/ 8/ 71 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 136 213 5 36/ 38/ 26 Black Moods Ian Oversby 135 140 6 29/ 26/ 45 Olivia X Ben Ford 132 25 7 22/ 12/ 66 Kin John Metcalf 131 52 8 24/ 18/ 58 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 131 84 9 26/ 23/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 130 166 10 32/ 34/ 34 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 129 27 11 32/ 36/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 129 144 12 30/ 32/ 38 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 129 73 13 29/ 31/ 41 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 127 83 14 32/ 40/ 28 Ogre Christian Schmidt 124 92 15 23/ 21/ 56 Glenstorm John Metcalf 124 6 16 15/ 6/ 79 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 123 161 17 30/ 41/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 120 39 18 12/ 6/ 82 Black Box v1.1 JKW 119 107 19 28/ 38/ 34 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 118 5 20 27/ 49/ 23 Kenshin X test 34 Steve Gunnell 106 1 21 2/ 2/ 0 Kenshin X test 33 Steve Gunnell 7 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 10 17:28:23 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1AFSN3e483015 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AFSLQA022688 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AFSKfu023966 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15536; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302100509.AAA20550@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 02/10/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/10/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 9 16:01:45 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 47/ 46/ 7 Clockwork John Metcalf 149 1 2 35/ 23/ 42 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 146 651 3 35/ 26/ 39 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 144 25 4 36/ 29/ 34 My First Paper Michal Janeczek 144 19 5 42/ 40/ 18 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 143 195 6 41/ 40/ 19 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 142 105 7 45/ 48/ 7 Claw Fizmo 141 388 8 29/ 17/ 54 Dawn Roy van Rijn 141 36 9 32/ 24/ 44 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 141 1420 10 30/ 20/ 49 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 141 458 11 39/ 38/ 23 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 140 182 12 29/ 20/ 51 Firestorm John Metcalf 137 456 13 23/ 9/ 68 Decoy Signal Ben Ford 137 347 14 38/ 39/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 136 104 15 28/ 21/ 51 test Christian Schmidt 135 6 16 32/ 28/ 40 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 135 68 17 38/ 43/ 19 Herbal Avenger Michal Janeczek 134 269 18 37/ 41/ 22 t.A.T.u Girls Rule John Metcalf 133 47 19 27/ 21/ 51 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 133 257 20 25/ 18/ 57 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 132 153 21 2/ 98/ 0 0 0 7 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 10 17:28:36 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1AFSa3e483224 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AFSZQA022792 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AFSYY26575 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:28:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA15610; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:27:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302100500.AAA20406@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 02/10/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/10/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 9 15:16:24 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 35/ 22/ 44 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 148 7 2 32/ 22/ 45 Freight Train David Moore 143 172 3 31/ 22/ 47 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 140 111 4 42/ 44/ 14 vm5 Michal Janeczek 140 6 5 31/ 22/ 47 Guardian Ian Oversby 140 171 6 38/ 41/ 21 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 136 3 7 33/ 32/ 35 vala John Metcalf 134 94 8 42/ 50/ 8 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 134 10 9 28/ 23/ 49 Pixie 88 Lukasz Grabun 134 1 10 37/ 42/ 20 '88 test IV John Metcalf 133 65 11 40/ 48/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 132 168 12 40/ 47/ 14 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 132 209 13 29/ 27/ 44 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 132 129 14 25/ 20/ 56 Test I Ian Oversby 130 228 15 27/ 24/ 49 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 129 127 16 35/ 41/ 24 PacMan David Moore 128 201 17 23/ 20/ 57 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 127 185 18 32/ 37/ 31 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 127 58 19 36/ 46/ 19 Stasis David Moore 126 279 20 35/ 46/ 19 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 124 447 21 14/ 13/ 73 Angry Ogre John Metcalf 115 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 10 20:35:34 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1AIZY3e511021 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:35:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1AIZVQA022599 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:35:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1AIZUY07975 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:35:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17081; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:34:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:34:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9e6b1335.0302100929.5c70372c@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iapdk@admin.drake.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: iapdk@admin.drake.edu (Paul Kline) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Pixie 88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Lukasz Grabun wrote in message news:<87vfzttlki.fsf@purgatory.abyss>... > Pixie's stone make a good combo. Qscan is unshamely taken from > Quicksilver 88 (does there exist any other 88 > qscan?). You might find something interesting in QuickFreeze. Paul Kline pk6811s@admin.drake.edu From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 11 01:30:01 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1ANU03e021874 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:30:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1ANTxQA024147 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:29:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1ANTwY22278 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:29:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA18927; Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:29:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:29:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87vfzrhjxk.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: My corewar page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hereby I announce that new corewar page is set up. Not many things but it will hopefully turn into home to useful tools and text for both newcommers and experienced players. http://www.astercity.net/~grabek -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 12 01:32:10 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1BNW93e214633 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:32:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1BNW6QA024542 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:32:06 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1BNW5Y16505 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:32:05 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA29094; Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:25:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:25:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302120638.19251.steveg58@iinet.net.au> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: steveg58@iinet.net.au Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Steve Gunnell To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: My corewar page Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi Lukasz, It is usual to ask permission before publishing other peoples writings. In my case, go ahead but remove or invalidate my e-mail address from the text. Cheers, Steve Gunnell On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 07:29 am, Lukasz Grabun wrote: > Hereby I announce that new corewar page is set up. Not many > things but it will hopefully turn into home to useful tools > and text for both newcommers and experienced players. > > http://www.astercity.net/~grabek From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 12 12:34:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1CAYm3e286019 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:34:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1CAYkQA015250 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:34:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1CAYifu004978 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:34:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA04781; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:32:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:32:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87smutn9vc.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: My corewar page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Steve Gunnell writes: > It is usual to ask permission before publishing other peoples writings. In > my case, go ahead but remove or invalidate my e-mail address from the text. You perfectly know that this one is taken from Dejanews, no? Sorry if that troubled you but I have taken all writings that are published on my webpage from r.g.cw. Didn't think about asking for permission since these were already *published* articles. But as to be altight with all: if anyone does not want to has his article published on my website, please let me know. -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 12 13:33:31 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1CBXV3e298433 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:33:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1CBXTQA020536 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:33:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1CBXSfu004712 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:33:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05206; Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:32:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302120259.f6c33a5@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frency 2: The Smart-Switching Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ...................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Smart-Switching Round | \___________________________/ Here is a further question I received regarding the rules for this round. 1) Is it allowed to scan with the p-switcher some locations before I boot the code? No, it is in general not allowed to scan with the p-switcher. If there are more questions, feel free to contact me or to post it here. I will answer them as soon as possible. Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 17 00:32:20 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1GMWJ3e046654 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:32:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1GMWHQA015969 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:32:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1GMWGY05150 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:32:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA20602; Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:31:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:31:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87ptpropxs.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Harmony Snoot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hello, core warriors. Here is Harmony Snoot - scanner, strongly inspired by Janeczek's Herbal Avenger and my good-old Deep Freeze X. ;redcode-94nop ;name Harmony Snoot ;author Lukasz Grabun ;strategy scanner ;assert 1 step equ 3056 gate equ (ptr-4) decoy equ (ptr+1-1186) ptr JMP.B spb , -2991 atk MOV.I spb , >ptr scan SEQ.I }step , }step+7 MOV.AB scan , ptr ADD.F spb , scan JMN.A atk , scan spb SPL.B #step , #step MOV.I bmb , >gate DJN.F -1 , >gate bmb DAT.F <2667 , 2-gate for 80 dat 0,0 rof d MOV.I ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:04 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HH53QA023675 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HH4sY00939 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:04:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28610; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302170509.AAA07657@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 02/17/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/17/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 16 16:22:18 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 42/ 40/ 18 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 145 157 2 34/ 24/ 42 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 143 703 3 40/ 42/ 18 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 138 247 4 33/ 28/ 40 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 138 77 5 31/ 25/ 44 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 137 1472 6 42/ 49/ 9 Clockwork John Metcalf 135 53 7 33/ 33/ 34 My First Paper Michal Janeczek 134 71 8 42/ 50/ 8 Claw Fizmo 133 440 9 28/ 23/ 49 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 133 510 10 26/ 19/ 55 Dawn Roy van Rijn 132 88 11 37/ 41/ 22 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 132 234 12 24/ 16/ 60 Dark Craft John Metcalf 132 1 13 38/ 44/ 18 Harmony Snoot Lukasz Grabun 132 47 14 36/ 41/ 23 Driftwood John Metcalf 132 156 15 30/ 29/ 41 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 132 120 16 26/ 22/ 52 Firestorm John Metcalf 130 508 17 25/ 22/ 52 Return of the Pendragon Christian Schmidt 128 309 18 38/ 49/ 13 Gabriel Roy van Rijn 127 2 19 23/ 20/ 57 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 126 205 20 37/ 48/ 15 Recon David Moore 126 46 21 23/ 21/ 56 The Warrior Within John Metcalf 126 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 17 19:05:28 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HH5R3e196855 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HH5QQA023768 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HH5Mfu008322 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28672; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302170503.AAA07548@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 02/17/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/17/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 16 10:38:56 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 trial John Metcalf 9 105 2 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 6 201 3 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 6 90 4 Her Majesty P.Kline 6 220 5 Silk Christian ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HH5RQA023769 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HH5Pfu008335 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28649; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302170506.AAA07622@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 02/17/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/17/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 16 17:49:53 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 45/ 43/ 13 Fire and Ice II David Moore 147 57 2 38/ 36/ 26 Black Moods Ian Oversby 141 153 3 23/ 11/ 66 Kin John Metcalf 135 65 4 34/ 33/ 33 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 134 40 5 29/ 25/ 46 Olivia X Ben Ford 133 38 6 21/ 8/ 72 Denial David Moore 133 98 7 20/ 8/ 72 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 133 226 8 37/ 41/ 21 Kenshin X test 48 Steve Gunnell 133 1 9 33/ 34/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 133 157 10 25/ 18/ 57 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 132 97 11 29/ 28/ 42 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 130 89 12 28/ 29/ 43 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 128 96 13 25/ 22/ 53 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 127 179 14 32/ 38/ 29 Ogre Christian Schmidt 127 105 15 22/ 20/ 58 Glenstorm John Metcalf 125 19 16 14/ 6/ 80 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 123 174 17 31/ 40/ 29 Exsnail Philip Thorne 123 52 18 29/ 36/ 35 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 121 18 19 14/ 6/ 80 Black Box v1.1 JKW 121 120 20 28/ 36/ 36 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 119 86 21 12/ 49/ 39 Bicarb Test B 10 Steve Gunnell 75 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 17 19:05:34 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HH5Y3e196851 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HH5XQA023820 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HH5Pfu008347 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28695; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302170500.AAA07497@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 02/17/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/17/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Sat Feb 15 10:31:02 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 35/ 23/ 42 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 147 7 2 44/ 44/ 12 vm5 Michal Janeczek 145 6 3 33/ 22/ 45 Freight Train David Moore 143 172 4 31/ 22/ 47 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 141 111 5 31/ 23/ 46 Guardian Ian Oversby 139 171 6 40/ 42/ 17 '88 test IV John Metcalf 138 65 7 43/ 49/ 7 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 138 10 8 39/ 42/ 19 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 137 3 9 41/ 47/ 12 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 134 168 10 33/ 32/ 35 vala John Metcalf 134 94 11 29/ 23/ 48 Pixie 88 Lukasz Grabun 134 1 12 40/ 47/ 13 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 133 209 13 30/ 28/ 43 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 131 129 14 38/ 44/ 18 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 131 447 15 25/ 20/ 55 Test I Ian Oversby 130 228 16 36/ 42/ 23 PacMan David Moore 130 201 17 37/ 45/ 17 Stasis David Moore 130 279 18 27/ 25/ 48 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 129 127 19 24/ 20/ 57 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 127 185 20 32/ 39/ 29 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 125 58 21 20/ 28/ 53 sp88-t Lukasz Grabun 111 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 17 19:05:49 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HH5n3e188413 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HH5lQA023934 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HH5fY01015 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:05:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28721; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:04:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20030217035905.26540.qmail@web41506.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: paul_virak_khuong@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Paul-V Khuong To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Harmony Snoot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: --- Lukasz Grabun wrote: > > Hello, core warriors. > > Here is Harmony Snoot - scanner, strongly > inspired by > Janeczek's Herbal Avenger and my good-old > Deep Freeze > X. > > ;redcode-94nop > ;name Harmony Snoot > ;author Lukasz Grabun > ;strategy scanner > ;assert 1 > > step equ 3056 > gate equ (ptr-4) > decoy equ (ptr+1-1186) > > ptr JMP.B spb , -2991 > atk MOV.I spb , >ptr > scan SEQ.I }step , }step+7 > MOV.AB scan , ptr > ADD.F spb , scan > JMN.A atk , scan > spb SPL.B #step , #step > MOV.I bmb , >gate > DJN.F -1 , >gate > bmb DAT.F <2667 , 2-gate [snip filler&decoy maker] Did it work worse with that Zoooom-trick? I'd find it somewhat surprising, since the only difference would be that you can't jump to the clear when the JMN line is decremented(instead, the warrior repairs the decrement and goes on scanning). Considering the speed-up and that most stones don't decrement locations sequentially, i believe the trick could be worth it. Finally, what IS up with all those scanner/clear? Are traditional HSA/carpet bombing scanners so bad in comparison they're unusable!? Paul Khuong __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 17 22:30:51 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HKUp3e222088 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:30:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HKUnQA014237 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:30:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HKUmY14104 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:30:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA00543; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1045511362.815368@halkan.kabelfoon.nl> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: roy_van_rijn@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Roy van Rijn" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Harmony Snoot X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: > Finally, what IS up with all those scanner/clear? Are > traditional HSA/carpet bombing scanners so bad in > comparison they're unusable!? Gabriel -> HSA style bombing Its a simple scanner, but it still manages somewhere way down in the hill. Hmm...why not post the code: ;redcode-94nop ;name Gabriel ;author Roy van Rijn ;assert 1 ;kill Gabriel sStep equ 451 sPtr equ (tPtr-2) tPtr mov.ab #0 ,sPtr wipe mov.i bomb ,>sPtr mov.i *wipe ,>sPtr jmn.f wipe ,@sPtr scan add.a #sStep,tPtr jmz.f scan ,*tPtr slt.ab tPtr ,#tail-tPtr+3 djn tPtr ,*sPtr jmn.a scan ,tPtr jmp scan ,}wipe bomb spl #0 ,}0 spl #0 ,{0 tail dat.f <5334 ,<2667 end scan (Very basic, I know) Improve/Abuse it anyway you want! :-) __ ___ ____ __ / /_ ______ _____ _/ (_)___ ____ _ / __ \__ __/ /__ ____ __ / / / / / __ `/ __ `/ / / __ \/ __ `/ / /_/ / / / / / _ \/_ / / /_/ / /_/ / /_/ / /_/ / / / / / / /_/ / / _, _/ /_/ / / __/ / /_ \____/\__,_/\__, /\__, /_/_/_/ /_/\__, / /_/ |_|\__,_/_/\___/ /___/ /____//____/ /____/ -Roy van Rijn- From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 18 00:32:04 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1HMW33e234957 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:32:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1HMW2QA006832 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:32:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1HMW1Y20593 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2003 00:32:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01335; Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:29:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 17:29:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <878yweoan9.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Harmony Snoot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Paul-V Khuong writes: > Did it work worse with that Zoooom-trick? I'd find it I have never used it. I am not even sure whether I do understand it. :-) > decrement and goes on scanning). Considering the > speed-up and that most stones don't decrement > locations sequentially, i believe the trick could be > worth it. Don't decrement sequentialy? Is not DJN.F ..., Finally, what IS up with all those scanner/clear? Are > traditional HSA/carpet bombing scanners so bad in > comparison they're unusable!? Check out Hazy Lazy position on inifite hill. Then find HSA. You do the math. OTOH, as one of Steve's text indicates, HSA switch engine and wipe works better (compare the results from the article on my page). OK, I don't know why it works better. :-) -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 19 16:36:41 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1JEae3e017709 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:36:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JEacQA023035 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:36:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1JEabGJ018171 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:36:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA18619; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:33:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 09:33:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Random-Rage Round | \_______________________/ This is the third round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/cwt.htm Rules ----- Round Robin without Self-Fights. Two Entry's are allowed. Rounds : 400 CORESIZE between 800 and 69000 Using of CORESIZE, MAXPROCESSES and MAXCYCLES is forbidden CORESIZE valid for 20-100 Rounds. Cycles = CORESIZE * 10 Maxprocesses = CORESIZE pSpace only for one of the Entry's PIN is not allowed Warriors length: 100 Distance : 100 The homepage of this round, including some more informations is: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/8.htm Deadline -------- Deadline is 22th March, 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------- Please notify: You have to send for this round your entries to -------------------------------------------------------------- Sascha Zapf: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de -------------------------------------------------------------- Good luck, may be the core with you! -- Parlez vous Redcode? From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 19 23:35:03 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1JLZ33e074145 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:35:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JLZ1QA019154 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:35:01 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1JLYxGJ019546 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:35:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA21130; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:34:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:34:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87el64m2rp.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Sascha Zapf writes: > Sascha Zapf: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Sascha, why didn't you tell you have such a *great* tutorial on your website. Is there a chance you publish an English version? I hardly can read German :-( -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 20 00:36:54 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1JMas3e080440 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:36:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1JMaqQA029967 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:36:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1JMap028067 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 00:36:51 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA21610; Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:34:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 17:34:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87y94ckk2k.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: John Metcalf's post, round 7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Since John is facing some problems with posting to the r.g.cw here is his article that I do forward. Hi, We were chatting about round 7 on IRC and I'd thought a summary might be useful to the group. In round 7 we have to write a p-spacer for 3 components, Cloner, CLP and Frontwards. The Redcode Maniacs' Tournament included a round to design a p-switcher: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~pak21/corewar/maniacs/maniacs4.html There were a number of interesting switching strategies, including the top two warriors, Psst 2.0 (an adaptive switcher) and The Optimist (switch between 3 switchers): http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/rc/Psst2.0.txt http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/rc/TheOptimist.txt There were a number of random switchers too - launch components randomly, or in an unpredictable fashion. This can be achieved with a table of random numbers or a pseudo-random number generator. Roy warned against using a completely random switcher and pointed us to this page: http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~darse/rsbpc.html Maybe worth considering is semi-random. If a component wins, stick with it. If it loses, switch randomly to one of the other components. Trying to outguess the switching decisions of your opponents is risky - an adaptive switcher would perhaps be better, especially over a large number of rounds... but would it be brainwashed too often? A P^3 switcher can be brainwashed into using Frontwards much more easily than P^2... (Why?) Remember, if your switcher thinks Frontwards has lost, it is most likely lost against Frontwards. (Why not CLP?) One more quick tip: before you run Cloner, consider overwriting the line ptrap+1 with a dat. You wouldn't want to fall into the brainwash would you? ;-) Regards, John -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 20 09:30:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1K7UQ3e054182 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:30:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1K7UOQA027370 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:30:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1K7UMGJ002441 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 09:30:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA24960; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:29:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:29:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Lukasz Grabun wrote: > Sascha Zapf writes: > >> Sascha Zapf: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de > > Sascha, why didn't you tell you have such a *great* tutorial > on your website. Is there a chance you publish an English > version? I hardly can read German :-( > At the Day a Warrior i've created is older then 10 at one of the KOTH-Hills i will announce the Tutorial ;-> I think there are so many English Tutors arround, so there is no need for another, that why i write a German one. The only thing i thougt about was an Lexicon like Fizmo's one. But now he's first with that and i think he's the better one to do that. If my English were a little bit better, perhaps i would write an English Version, but so, it's too many work for me, sorry? -- Parlez vous Redcode? From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 20 20:14:53 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1KIEq3e239024 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:14:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KIEoQA000495 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:14:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1KIEm008066 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:14:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00172; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:12:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 13:12:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@mikrus.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: About 2nd Round (P-Switcher) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: I wonder if warriors will fight only once or more. I know that number of rounds is 2000, but I think fr P-switchers it is important how several first rounds finish. Not only chosen strategy means, the distance between warriors also and this one is (semi)random. So maybe it would be better to make every pair of warriors fight twice: pmars -r 1000 warrior1.red warrior2.red and pmars -r 1000 warrior2.red warrior1.red I believe it makes difference. During my tests I had very different scores every time I played with the same pair of warriors. And believe me: none of them was a random switcher. ;] I think P-switchers (the more complicated especially) often treats all of the rounds as one, if you know, what I mean... A paradox: p-space is their long-term memory, thanks to it they can remember, but they can't forget also (well, maybe if brainwashed, but it's not the way I would think about). And forgetting can be useful. Think about regular (non-P-spaced) warriors: every round is a new chance to win. P-switcher can stuck in an error. Lukasz Adamowski From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 20 22:31:50 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1KKVn3e262822 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:31:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KKVlQA002630 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:31:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1KKVkGJ020377 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:31:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01147; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:31:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:31:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302201131.69af3a4a@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Shrinking Paper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, here is a funny idea for a paper. It loses processes during the first cycles of self-replications. This leads into several different kind of active copies. It scores good against stone/imps and don't lose too much to scanner and oneshots. Ok, and here is the code ;-) ;redcode-94nop ;name Shrinking Paper ;author Christian Schmidt ;strategy A curious paper!! It looses ;strategy in the beginning some of its ;strategy processes, because of the uncommon ;strategy front silk-engine. It scores ok ;strategy against stone/imps and some scanner. ;assert 1 org qGo pStep1 EQU 6372 pStep2 EQU 2676 pStep3 EQU 4157 spec spl pStep1, -1 silk1 spl @0, -1 silk2 spl @0, -1 bomb mov.i #1, <1 cc djn -2, <-22-pStep1 dat 0, 0 dat 0, 0 pGo spl 2 spl 2 spl 1 mov.i -1, #0 mov {cc+2, {pBo1 pBo1 spl cc+2000 mov qTab sne qd+qf+17*qs, qf+17*qs seq qf+16*qs, ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:32:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KLWDQA016404 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:32:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1KLWD018730 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:32:13 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA01586; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:31:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:31:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87smuilljv.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Sascha Zapf writes: > I think there are so many English Tutors arround, so there is no need for > another, that why i write a German one. The only thing i thougt about was > an Lexicon like Fizmo's one. But now he's first with that and i think he's > the better one to do that. Yes, there are tutorials but they are all a little bit out of date. Not all things are covered. Though I am putting my all efforts into gaining the good spot on 88 hill and Steven's book and Mintardjo tutorial are good enough to help, I still think we need a good tutorial covering all basic strategies. OK, I am working on a tutorial about stones (what else did you expect me to write about? :-). This may be a good start. Christian is - to my knowledge - writing a paper article. Good, two of the three. John? :-) > If my English were a little bit better, perhaps i would write an English > Version, but so, it's too many work for me, sorry? Ah, yes. Facing the same problem. -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 21 01:33:22 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1KNXM3e284952 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1KNXKQA006072 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:33:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1KNXJGJ015736 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 01:33:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02472; Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87k7fulhc3.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: John Metcalf's post - entries for the round 6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: O X-Status: Hi, Here are my entries from round 6, the highest stone and vampire. Icegate bombs with imps for a while, then enters a wimp with gate. Maybe I should have skipped the bombing and gone straight to the wimp :-) Spike bombs slowly with jumps to a pit. The pit performs a suicidal dat clear. I also considered making the pit an imp and including a gate, but never tested this idea. Congratulations once again to Simon Duff and Joshua for their impressive debut... Regards, John ;redcode-94m ;name Icegate ;author John Metcalf ;strategy bomb with imps -> gate. simple and effective ;strategy Redcoders Frenzy: The Multi-Maniac Round ;assert CORESIZE==8000 gate equ imp-5 st equ 10 imp: mov.i #1, 1 go: mov {-45, {-55 mov {-66, {-76 mov {-87, {-97 blo: mov imp, st*2 add #st, blo djn blo, #792 jmp #0, ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:36:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1L7aCQA017875 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:36:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1L7aAGJ010719 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 09:36:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA05592; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:33:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 02:33:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Round 6 Entry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, this is my Entry to the 6th Round, i was a little bit disappointed about his poorly Ranking. The only thing i have thougt about is that the Stepsize with mod-8 is not the best for MAXLENGTH==8 Warriors. But the Rest seem to be very aggressiv and should win a little more. What's wrong with him? Sascha ;redcode ;name Nosferatu ;author Sascha Zapf ;assert CORESIZE==8000 ;strategy First entry for the Multi-Maniacs-Round in the RedCoders Frenzy. ;strategy .5c Vampire/Stone, Coreclear and DJN-Stream tstep EQU 1704 ccgap EQU (incr-10) ;Start des Coreclear hinter dem Warrior djgap EQU (fang+8) ;Start des DJN-Stream's hinter dem Warrior itarget EQU trap+1-8-tstep ;Init-Werte für Fang-Sprungziel dtarget EQU fang+8+tstep ;Init-Werte für Fang-Kopieradresse incr dat tstep+1, -tstep ;(+1) Offsetkorrektur für Datbombe loop mov.i fang, @fang start add.f incr, fang mov.i incr, *fang jmp loop, {fang fang djn.f itarget, >dtarget trap mov.i incr, djgap END start -- Parlez vous Redcode? From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 21 10:35:21 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1L8ZL3e315707 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:35:21 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1L8ZJQA014504 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:35:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1L8ZIGJ003297 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:35:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA07461; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:33:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:33:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302202330.5a4514e5@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frency 1: The Multi-Maniac Round **Results** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: The entries for this round are now available at: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/6.htm Just click on the warriors name on the table. Chris From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 21 20:59:42 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1LIxf3e450993 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1LIxcQA015731 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1LIxaGJ018521 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11098; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:58:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:58:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <031b01c2d8bf$394f32c0$2200a8c0@Mesh1> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: ff95@dial.pipex.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Robert Macrae" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: John Metcalf's post, round 7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Status: RO X-Status: > http://para.inria.fr/~doligez/corewar/rc/Psst2.0.txt That is a blast from the past. The Optimist used a much shorter engine and will not have suffered so much from brainwash. Robert Macrae From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 21 20:59:59 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1LIxx3e451014 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1LIxvQA015786 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:57 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1LIxt029386 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 20:59:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA11125; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:59:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:59:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <0a0001c2d863$53f93c80$44bfe150@vaio> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: corewar@tiscali.co.uk Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "John Metcalf" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Round 6 Warriors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Status: RO X-Status: Hi, Here are my entries from round 6, the highest stone and vampire. Icegate bombs with imps for a while, then enters a wimp with gate. Maybe I should have skipped the bombing and gone straight to the wimp :-) Spike bombs slowly with jumps to a pit. The pit performs a suicidal dat clear. I also considered making the pit an imp and including a gate, but never tested this idea. Congratulations once again to Simon Duff and Joshua for their impressive debut... Regards, John ;redcode-94m ;name Icegate ;author John Metcalf ;strategy bomb with imps -> gate. simple and effective ;strategy Redcoders Frenzy: The Multi-Maniac Round ;assert CORESIZE==8000 gate equ imp-5 st equ 10 imp: mov.i #1, 1 go: mov {-45, {-55 mov {-66, {-76 mov {-87, {-97 blo: mov imp, st*2 add #st, blo djn blo, #792 jmp #0, ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:33:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1NJXuQA021657 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:33:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1NJXsGJ029644 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:33:55 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01352; Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:32:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:32:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <87adgm26v6.fsf@purgatory.abyss> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Hint Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: When creating an airbagged warriors (or the one that uses jmz check) tend to place bombs *behind* the warrior rather than above it. The former protects better against dnj streams. Stupid me. It is the other way in RoV. -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 24 21:53:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1OJrm3e340460 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:53:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1OJrkQA013020 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:53:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1OJriGJ003217 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:53:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11392; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302240509.AAA20291@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - 94 No Pspace 02/24/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/24/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG 94 No Pspace CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 23 14:58:48 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 45/ 39/ 16 Toxic Spirit Philip Thorne 150 169 2 35/ 25/ 40 Reepicheep Grabun/Metcalf 144 715 3 33/ 26/ 41 Son of Vain Oversby/Pihlaja 141 1484 4 42/ 42/ 16 Hazy Test 63 Steve Gunnell 141 259 5 39/ 38/ 23 Monowire Misse 140 9 6 35/ 29/ 36 Thunderstrike Lukasz Grabun 140 89 7 43/ 48/ 9 Clockwork John Metcalf 137 65 8 33/ 30/ 37 Pixie Lukasz Grabun 136 132 9 40/ 43/ 17 Harmony Snoot Lukasz Grabun 136 59 10 38/ 41/ 21 Return of Vanquisher Lukasz Grabun 135 246 11 38/ 41/ 21 Driftwood John Metcalf 134 168 12 29/ 25/ 47 Revenge of the Papers Fizmo/Roy 133 522 13 26/ 20/ 54 Dawn Roy van Rijn 133 100 14 41/ 51/ 8 Claw Fizmo 132 452 15 33/ 34/ 33 My First Paper Michal Janeczek 132 83 16 26/ 22/ 51 Firestorm John Metcalf 131 520 17 25/ 21/ 55 The Three-Handed Knight Christian Schmidt 129 217 18 24/ 19/ 57 Dark Craft John Metcalf 129 13 19 25/ 24/ 52 Wipe Uncle Christian Schmidt 125 5 20 37/ 50/ 13 T4 Roy van Rijn 125 1 21 37/ 50/ 13 T5 Roy van Rijn 123 2 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 24 21:54:18 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1OJsI3e339710 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1OJsHQA013106 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1OJsFGJ003303 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11468; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:54:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:54:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302240500.AAA20127@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - Standard 02/24/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/24/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Standard KotH CoreWar Hill : Last battle concluded at : Thu Feb 20 16:54:58 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 39/ 22/ 40 Quicksilver '88 Michal Janeczek 155 7 2 36/ 22/ 42 Freight Train David Moore 150 172 3 35/ 22/ 43 Test Alexander (Sasha) Wa 148 111 4 34/ 22/ 44 Guardian Ian Oversby 146 171 5 44/ 45/ 11 vm5 Michal Janeczek 143 6 6 37/ 32/ 31 vala John Metcalf 142 94 7 41/ 40/ 18 My 1st try Christian Schmidt 142 3 8 32/ 23/ 45 Pixie 88 Lukasz Grabun 142 1 9 41/ 43/ 16 '88 test IV John Metcalf 139 65 10 44/ 49/ 7 Scan Test C 6 Steve Gunnell 139 10 11 33/ 28/ 40 sIMPly.Red v0.95 Leonardo Humberto 138 129 12 28/ 20/ 52 Test I Ian Oversby 137 228 13 30/ 24/ 45 Shish-Ka-Bob Ben Ford 136 127 14 41/ 47/ 11 Foggy Swamp Beppe Bezzi 136 168 15 41/ 47/ 12 Blur '88 Anton Marsden 135 209 16 37/ 41/ 22 PacMan David Moore 134 201 17 35/ 37/ 28 Gymnosperm trickery Dave Hillis 133 58 18 26/ 20/ 54 EV Paper John K Wilkinson 133 185 19 38/ 44/ 17 Beholder's Eye V1.7 W. Mintardjo 132 447 20 38/ 45/ 17 Stasis David Moore 132 279 21 15/ 75/ 10 clear Lukasz Grabun 55 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Mon Feb 24 21:54:20 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1OJsK3e339343 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1OJsIQA013113 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1OJsH022258 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:54:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11443; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302240503.AAA20176@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - MultiWarrior 94 02/24/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/24/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG Multiwarrior 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Wed Feb 19 15:07:28 EST 2003 # Name Author Score Age 1 trial John Metcalf 11 106 2 Her Majesty P.Kline 11 221 3 fclear Brian Haskin 9 186 4 D-clearM Ken Espiritu 7 202 5 Djinn Test 9 Steve Gunnell 6 91 6 Silk Christian ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:55:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1OJtEQA013359 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:55:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1OJtD022300 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:55:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA11419; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:53:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302240506.AAA20256@gevjon.ttsg.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: koth@koth.org Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Koth To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: KOTH.ORG: Status - ICWS Experimental 94 02/24/03 X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Weekly Status on 02/24/03 -=- irc.KOTH.org is up! Meetings held in #corewars -=- Tons of new features on www.KOTH.org/koth.html pages -=- *FAQ* page located at: www.KOTH.org/corewar-faq.html Current Status of the KOTH.ORG ICWS Experimental 94 CoreWar Hill: Last battle concluded at : Sun Feb 23 14:18:29 EST 2003 # %W/ %L/ %T Name Author Score Age 1 45/ 42/ 13 Fire and Ice II David Moore 149 58 2 37/ 36/ 27 Black Moods Ian Oversby 139 154 3 40/ 41/ 20 Kenshin X 45 Steve Gunnell 138 1 4 22/ 8/ 71 Denial David Moore 135 99 5 30/ 25/ 46 Olivia X Ben Ford 135 39 6 28/ 22/ 50 Venom v0.2b Christian Schmidt 133 180 7 33/ 33/ 34 Trefoil F 13 Steve Gunnell 133 41 8 30/ 29/ 41 Damage Inflicted Robert Macrae 132 97 9 20/ 7/ 73 Evol Cap 4 X John Wilkinson 132 227 10 33/ 35/ 32 Controlled Aggression Ian Oversby 132 158 11 21/ 11/ 68 Kin John Metcalf 132 66 12 24/ 17/ 59 Katafutr Michal Janeczek 131 98 13 29/ 28/ 43 KAT v5 Dave Hillis 130 90 14 24/ 19/ 57 Glenstorm John Metcalf 129 20 15 32/ 37/ 31 Ogre Christian Schmidt 126 106 16 29/ 35/ 36 Mantrap Arcade Dave Hillis 122 19 17 13/ 6/ 81 Evolve X v4.0 John Wilkinson 121 175 18 27/ 36/ 37 Big I.F.F.S. Dave Hillis 118 87 19 29/ 40/ 31 Exsnail Philip Thorne 118 53 20 12/ 6/ 82 Black Box v1.1 JKW 117 121 21 7/ 46/ 46 27278-5051-cs-sdk-eve11 bvowk 69 0 From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 25 03:07:23 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1P17M3e371089 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:07:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1P17KQA011450 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:07:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1P17IGJ017883 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 03:07:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA13807; Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:06:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 20:06:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200302250047.QAA18653@andromeda.ociw.edu> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: birk@ociw.edu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Christoph Birk To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Round 6 Entries on LP/Tiny Koenigstuhl X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: I put all Round-6 entries on the LP- and/or Tiny-Koenigstuhl. Most entries don't do very well ... If any author feels that his/her program should NOT be on the hill please drop me an email and I will remove it. Christoph http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 25 15:21:33 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1PDLX3e475966 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:21:33 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1PDLVQA023389 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:21:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1PDLU019835 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 15:21:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA19640; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:20:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:20:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@mikrus.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Another Round Idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi, guys! This is my idea for a round. It's something between "Big-Brother" and "Resident-Recruit". I call it "Capture The Flag". Who played QuakeIII knows what I mean. :] OK, so this is round-robin without self-fights, but there are three warriors in the core: two opponents and "The Flag". "The Flag" is a simple suicidable program: flag djn $0, #0 As you see, after CORESIZE steps "The Flag" dies. (Maybe better name would be "The Torch", because torches burn out, but "Capture The Torch" doesn't sound good, does it? ;) And, soldiers, your task is not only to destroy your enemy, but to keep "The Flag" alive. Only then you will win, every other solution is a failure. I.e. if you die - no points if "The Flag" dies - no points if all of you ("The Flag", the enemy and you) survive - also no points if only enemy dies - 1 point Or maybe it would be better if there would be 3 points for killing only the enemy and 1 point if "The Flag" is uncaptured (it means you and the enemy die, but "The Flag" is still alive at the end of the fight). Did I mention that MAXCYCLES > CORESIZE? I think it's obvious. The warrior has to be extremly fast if it wants to save the flag. Of course it can try to be clever and suppose the enemy would save it. But I won't tell you more about solutions I thought up. Think up for yourself! ;] Well, that's it. What do you think? Greets Lukasz Adamowski From corewar-l@koth.org Tue Feb 25 20:33:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1PIXQ3e522380 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:33:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1PIXNQA001090 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:33:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1PIXMGJ015216 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:33:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21588; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:32:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:32:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Another Round Idea X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 25 Feb 2003 08:20:28 -0500, Lukasz Adamowski wrote: > This is my idea for a round. It's something between "Big-Brother" > and "Resident-Recruit". I call it "Capture The Flag". Who played QuakeIII > knows what I mean. :] You should also mention few changes on your hill, no? :-) -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 26 00:34:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1PMYQ3e028248 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:34:26 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1PMYOQA022576 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:34:24 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1PMYMGJ022293 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 00:34:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23117; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:33:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302251305.228547a6@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Redcoders Frency 2: The Smart-Switching Round **RESULTS** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: ................................................................... ********************* * Redcoders' Frency * ********************* The ongoing corewar tournament /^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\ | The Smart-Switching Round | \___________________________/ This was the second round of the ongoing corewar tournament. Detailed information are available on Fizmo's Ultimate Corewar Page: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/cwt.htm *********** * Results * *********** A total of 8 authors and 13 warriors take part in the Smart-Switching Round. Although each author can enter two warriors as usual. (_v_) _|_ | | |-----+-----| ___________ .-=========-. | {{1}} | '._==_==_=_.' \'-=======-'/ | \=/ | .-\: /-. _| .=. |_ '---------' | (|:.{3} |) | ((| {{2}} |)) \ / '-|:. |-' \| /|\ |/ '. .' \::. / \__ '`' __/ | | '::. .' _`) (`_ .' '. ) ( _/_______\_ _|___|_ _.' '._ /___________\ [_______] [_______] 2nd place Winner 3rd place **************** ****************** ******************* * Roy van Rijn * * German Labarga * * Michal Janeczek * **************** ****************** ******************* And the winner with a hugh 27pts gap to the second is German Labarga with its learning switcher. The second and third place goes to Roy van Rijn and Michal Janeczek. Rank Name Author %W %L %T Score % __________________________________________________________________ 1 P-Key G.Labarga 62 24 14 14792 100.0 2 DoubleTrouble Roy van Rijn 45 29 26 10734 72.6 3 R7 2003 Michal Janeczek 43 36 20 10409 70.4 4 Smart Switcher? John Metcalf 42 38 20 10113 68.4 5 Predictable Simon Duff 41 36 23 9776 66.1 6 Dr.Jekyll Sascha Zapf 40 38 22 9559 64.6 7 Mr.Hide Sascha Zapf 39 35 25 9471 64.0 8 simple switching Simon Wainwright 37 39 24 8805 59.5 9 SoLT and Pepper Roy van Rijn 36 45 19 8757 59.2 10 Wretched Climate John Metcalf 36 32 32 8602 58.2 11 freedom Simon Wainwright 31 37 31 7542 51.0 12 PointA3a Lukasz Adamowski 27 51 23 6367 43.0 13 PointA3b Lukasz Adamowski 20 57 23 4891 33.1 __________________________________________________________________ More detailed informations and all entries will be available soon on the Smart-Switching webpage: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/7.htm Congratulations to everyone who has taken part this round. I hope to see you all next round again. *********** * Ranking * *********** There is again no change in the top spot. Michal Janeczek is still dominating the ranking followed by Steve Gunnell and Ben Ford. Dave Hillis falls 3 ranks to the 6th places while Simon Duff and Sascha Zapf climb some ranks and nearly scrapes the top 10. There are six players leaving the actual ranking. # Author Score R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 (1) Michal Janeczek 398.6 100.0 100.0 98.6 100.0 72.6 70.4 2 (2) Steve Gunnell 359.2 85.0 82.4 96.2 95.6 48.4 x 3 (4) Ben Ford 325.9 74.4 75.1 100.0 76.4 x x 4 (5) Philip Thorne 321.4 68.0 72.7 89.0 91.7 40.1 x 5 (6) Simon Wainwright 314.5 71.5 89.1 79.0 74.9 50.6 59.5 6 (3) Dave Hillis 311.8 84.3 87.3 87.7 50.9 52.5 x 7 (9) German Labarga 294.7 x x 60.0 82.8 51.9 100.0 8 (8) Roy van Rijn 287.8 x x 92.8 84.4 38.0 72.6 9 (7) Lukasz Grabun 250.6 x 67.6 70.7 78.4 33.9 x 10 (10) Christian Schmidt 173.4 x x 90.7 82.7 * * 11 (14) Simon Duff 166.1 x x x x 100.0 66.1 12 (17) Sascha Zapf 149.7 x x x 51.1 34.0 64.6 13 (22) John Metcalf 133.8 * * * * 65.4 68.4 14 (13) David Moore 115.0 51.4 63.6 x x x x 15 (16) Ken Espiritu 86.3 x 86.3 x x x x 16 (29) Lukasz Adamowski 86.1 x x x x 43.1 43.0 17 (19) Joshua 76.1 x x x x 76.1 x 18 (24) Darek L. 61.1 x x 35.2 x 25.9 x 19 (11) Robert Macrae 61.0 61.0 x x x x x 20 (25) Sheep 60.2 x x 60.2 x x x 21 (26) Ilmari Karonen 57.6 x x x x 57.6 x 22 (27) Will Varfar 54.0 x x x x 54.0 x 23 (12) WFB 47.3 47.3 x x x x x 24 (30) B. Cook 42.7 x x x x 42.7 x 25 (31) Paul Khuong 40.8 x x x x 40.8 x 26 (32) bvowk 27.0 x x 27.0 x x x 27 (33) christian m. 22.6 x x x x 22.6 x 28 (34) Harbinger Of Doom 21.0 x x x x 21.0 x out(15) Martin Ankerl out(18) Leonardo H. Liporati out(20) mushroommaker out(21) Arek Paterek out(23) Paul Drake out(28) Compudemon ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Organizer ................................................................ From corewar-l@koth.org Wed Feb 26 01:09:30 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1PN9U3e031511 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:09:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1PN9SQA003332 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:09:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1PN9RGJ015387 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2003 01:09:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA23370; Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:04:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 18:04:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: adamow@mikrus.pw.edu.pl Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Adamowski To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Another Round Idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Lukasz Grabun wrote: > On 25 Feb 2003 08:20:28 -0500, Lukasz Adamowski wrote: > > > This is my idea for a round. It's something between "Big-Brother" > > and "Resident-Recruit". I call it "Capture The Flag". Who played QuakeIII > > knows what I mean. :] > > You should also mention few changes on your hill, no? :-) I did. I talked with jakub today on #corewars. :-P Lukasz From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 27 10:31:17 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1R8VH3e287515 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:31:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1R8VEQA001654 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:31:15 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1R8VC021088 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:31:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08736; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:30:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 03:30:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9f53b5fb.0302262327.4ee04f31@posting.google.com> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: fizmo_master@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: fizmo_master@yahoo.com (Fizmo) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Any suggestions for the next Redcoders Frency Round?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hi all, I would like to discuss what we could use for the next Redcoders Frency round. Any proposals/votes? A collection of ideas are still available at: http://de.geocities.com/fizmo_master/ideas.htm Chris PS: Adamowski's "Capturing the Flag" will be included there soon From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 27 12:32:46 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1RAWj3e302961 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:32:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1RAWhQA006483 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:32:43 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1RAWg000175 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 12:32:42 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA09501; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:32:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 05:32:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3e5dd7d0@itsawnews.its.rmit.edu.au> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: sduff@yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Simon Duff To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Question re Random Rage Round X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Hey all, just a quick question about the Random-Rage round. Will P-space be reset between each sub-round (eg, when the coresize, etc.. are modified)? Or will each sub-round start with P-space cleared, and P-Space[0] set to -1? Thanks. Regards, Simon -- Simon Duff Honours year in Computer Science Computer Systems Engineering (Hons) / Computer Science COSC1105/CS259 Head Tutor From corewar-l@koth.org Thu Feb 27 15:34:34 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1RDYY3e331863 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:34:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1RDYWQA014941 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:34:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1RDYVo13558 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:34:31 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA10688; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:34:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 08:34:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: nc-zapfsa@netcologne.de Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Sascha Zapf To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Question re Random Rage Round Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Simon Duff wrote: > Hey all, just a quick question about the Random-Rage round. > > Will P-space be reset between each sub-round (eg, when the coresize, etc.. > are modified)? Or will each sub-round start with P-space cleared, and > P-Space[0] set to -1? > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Simon > Hi Simon, the tournament will be scheduled by a Perl-Skript. For the 400 Rounds of each battle the pmars-binary is invoked between 4 and max. 20 Times. Each new CORSIZE will start with P-space cleared and [0]==(-1) Sascha -- Parlez vous Redcode? From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 00:30:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1RMUm3e420209 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:30:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1RMUkQA026990 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:30:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1RMUi8K017063 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:30:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA13989; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1046380888.10293@itz.pp.sci.fi> Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: iltzu@sci.invalid Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Ilmari Karonen To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: In article , Sascha Zapf wrote: >Lukasz Grabun wrote: >> >> Sascha, why didn't you tell you have such a *great* tutorial >> on your website. Is there a chance you publish an English >> version? I hardly can read German :-( > >At the Day a Warrior i've created is older then 10 at one of the KOTH-Hills >i will announce the Tutorial ;-> You know, if I'd waited that long, I'd never have published mine. (Well, unless you count the beginner hill, of course...) -- Ilmari Karonen http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/ From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 00:31:19 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1RMVI3e415421 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:31:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1RMVHQA027113 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:31:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1RMVGo16468 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 00:31:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA14013; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:30:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: paper-stone-scissors analogy X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Just to encourage and raise a discussion on the newsgroup: does the famouse stone/paper/scissor analogy hold any longer? I was wondering since looking at the scores on the current hill one has to realise that either strategy lines do lie or something-wicked-comes- this-way. I am not even talking about unbeatable SoV which is class to its own but, taking Thunderstrike for example, it is hardly noticable it *is* actually a stone. It wins with Reepicheep (which just can mean simply nothing, as well). While Monowire - oneshot - is kicked by Metcalf's paper, Firestorm. What is going own? Have I missed something? What is, if not mentioned s/p/s, proper analogy for the current hill? For me stone/imp - anti imp scanner - stone/paper? paper/imp? What are your opinions? -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 03:08:48 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1S18m3e400359 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:08:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1S18kQA021403 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:08:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1S18jo23158 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:08:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA21054; Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:07:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:07:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: joshudson@hotmail.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Joshua Hudson" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: Redcoders Frenzy 3: The Random-Rage Round Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: >At the Day a Warrior i've created is older then 10 at >one of the KOTH-Hills > >You know, if I'd waited that long, I'd never have published mine. > I have done so already. I don't think many of you remember Kernel Trojan. I was there for four days and had twenty fights in my mailbox. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 08:38:53 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1S6cr3e458366 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:38:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1S6cpQA002104 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:38:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1S6co8K006096 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:38:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA23143; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: waknuk@yahoo.com Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: waknuk@yahoo.com (Philip Thorne) To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: paper-stone-scissors analogy X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Lukasz Grabun wrote: > Just to encourage and raise a discussion on the newsgroup: > does the famouse stone/paper/scissor analogy hold any longer? I was > [...] > > For me stone/imp - anti imp scanner - stone/paper? > paper/imp? What are your opinions? > I think stone/paper/scissors still holds. Quickscans and imps lie outside this classification with the former scoring highly against anything large [including each-other] and the latter tending to narrow the results when used in combination due to draws. Then there are the one-shots which vary in behaviour between normal scanners and clears [of which some are good vs paper and others good vs imps but few, if any, good vs both]. e.g. Thunderstrike [contains a stone] beats the scanners (including one-shots). It beats Reepicheep but the latter is also a Stone [plus paper to fight the imp] and RofVanquisher [another stone]. In the same class it loses to SoV but beats Pixie. Lastly it loses to the papers albeit narrowly in some cases [possibly thanks to the Q4]. Normal? e.g. Monowire vs Firestorm could be all in the Q4. It has an unusual visible length [80] ... perhaps it is 80 densely packed bytes? Current hill types: one-shots: Toxic Spirit, Monowire scanners: Harmony Snoot, Hazy Test 63, Clockwork, Claw [anti-imp] imp-stones: Son of Vain, Thunder Strike, Pixie paper: Dawn, My First Paper, test, Revenge of the Papers, Dark Craft, Firestorm, PolyPap paper-stone:Reepicheep paper-imp: paper test bomber: Return of Vanquisher [also clear] unknown: Driftwood [results suggest bomber, name suggests dodger] Lots of paper ... nice big targets. That said, Revenge of the Papers is interesting as it is resistant to regular SPL carpets. -- Philb From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 12:34:26 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1SAYP3e495909 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:34:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1SAYNQA022444 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:34:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1SAYMo19615 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:34:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA26139; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:32:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 05:32:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: forspams@freemail.hu Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: "Csaba Biro" To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: difference between pmarses X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: Guys, I found the problem and I have to tell tell you, it is a little shocking! The problem was, that the version I compiled didn't compile Beppe's warrior correctly!!! Beppe's warrior starts with the following lines: spl 1, <300 ;\ spl 1, <400 ;-> generate 8 consecutive processes spl 1, <500 ;/ It was compiled by Paul's pmarsv correctly, but when I compiled it with my non-graphic version, it became ORG START START SPL.B $ 1, < 300 SPL.B $ 1, < 500 I couldn't belive that it simply skipped one line! Then I quickly found the reason: the non-graphic pmars doesn't like Beppe's comment (;\) at the end of the first line. I just guess that the \ is interpreted as a start of an escape sequence, so the newline character is also in comment as well as the following line. This scared me a little: can I trust pmars? Which versions are running on the hills? What if my warrior does terrible due to a bug like this? (It is a bug, isn't it?) If it is a bug, to whom should I report it? Csaba "Csaba Biro" wrote in message news:b3jv9l$nvb$1@news-int.gatech.edu... > Hi! > > Something strange is going on here! I tried out 2 different versions of > pmars. Both are "official", available at koth. The first is Phil Knight's > pmarsv "for Windows". The second was compiled my me from the source "pMARS > source v0.8.6" with GNU C compiler of cygwin. The results: > > C:\Games\Corewar\mars>pmars -b -r 100 -f inc.red paper01o.red > Incendiary bomber by Csaba Biro (stolen) scores 174 > paper01o by Beppe Bezzi scores 81 > Results: 43 12 45 > > C:\Games\Corewar\mars>pmarsv -v 000 -b -r 100 -f inc.red paper01o.red > Incendiary bomber by Csaba Biro (stolen) scores 109 > paper01o by Beppe Bezzi scores 139 > Results: 19 29 52 > > They should be the same, shouldn't they? First I only discovered that if I > use the graphic version, 'paper01o' beats 'inc' usually with a little > difference, but if I use the non-graphic one, 'inc' seriously beats > 'paper01o'. I attach the programs, please, if you have time try out, what is > the result with you? > > Thanks, > Csaba > > > > From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 20:34:36 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1SIYa3e024892 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (NO-SPAM.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.34]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1SIYYQA021668 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:35 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by no-spam.it.helsinki.fi (8.11.4/8.11.4-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1SIYXo19162 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29183; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:34:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:34:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: difference between pmarses X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 04:05:22 -0500, Csaba Biro wrote: > I couldn't belive that it simply skipped one line! Then I quickly found the > reason: the non-graphic pmars doesn't like Beppe's comment (;\) at the end > of the first line. I just guess that the \ is interpreted as a start of an > escape sequence, so the newline character is also in comment as well as the > following line. I think it is caused by the fact that on standard *nix systems character '\' means that the current line will be continued on the next one. Which means, that the second spl was interpreted as the comment to the very first line of the warrior. I presume that pmars acts like standard *nix parser and interpretes the character exactly the same way. -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply) From corewar-l@koth.org Fri Feb 28 20:34:36 2003 Received: from sink.it.helsinki.fi (sink.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.38]) by kantti.Helsinki.FI (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h1SIYa3e050862 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from post.it.helsinki.fi (post.it.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.24]) by sink.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h1SIYYQA021666 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:34 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (root@odin.ttsg.com [216.231.111.29]) by post.it.helsinki.fi (8.12.2/8.12.2-SPAMmers-sod-off) with ESMTP id h1SIYW8K009971 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:34:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from odin.ttsg.com (server@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ttsg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA29203; Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:34:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:34:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Errors-To: ttsg@ttsg.com Reply-To: grabek@purgatory.abyss Originator: corewar-l@koth.org Sender: corewar-l@koth.org Precedence: bulk From: Lukasz Grabun To: Multiple recipients of list COREWAR-L Subject: Re: paper-stone-scissors analogy X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0d -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Usenet News "rec.games.corewar" Status: RO X-Status: On 28 Feb 2003 05:16:49 GMT, Philip Thorne wrote: >> For me stone/imp - anti imp scanner - stone/paper? >> paper/imp? What are your opinions? >> > I think stone/paper/scissors still holds. Quickscans and imps lie outside [..snip quickscan and imp remarks..] > good vs paper and others good vs imps but few, if any, good vs both]. Second that. Quickscans and imps do not count. But... Imps are *very* imporant since they change considerably the variety of warriors our program can beat/tie. Stupid example: stone without imps does not stand a cnahce facing stone with imp not mentioning the simplest timescape-like paper. Add a very basic imp launcher and you at least gain a tie. From this comes first class I chose as present part of the equilibrum: stone/imp. > e.g. Thunderstrike [contains a stone] beats the scanners (including > one-shots). It beats Reepicheep but the latter is also a Stone [plus > paper to fight the imp] and RofVanquisher [another stone]. In the same > class it loses to SoV but beats Pixie. Lastly it loses to the papers > albeit narrowly in some cases [possibly thanks to the Q4]. Normal? Thunderstrike's performance against Reepicheep is still unknown to me. TS beats s/i since it has its own imp arch enemy d-clear. I am not quite sure whether the same goes for against paper performance since it is commonly known that d-clear performs very poorly against paper. RofV is too big too win with TS. Pixie loses to TS since it is very basic stone/imp without any means of defence except stupid B-imps. Bah, TS kills them. > e.g. Monowire vs Firestorm could be all in the Q4. It has an unusual > visible length [80] ... perhaps it is 80 densely packed bytes? I don't know, really. Firestorm is very durable and hard to kill. That is what I suggested: stand-alone paper (like, let's take, Timescape) can't face modern warriors. Redundancy and very different and uncommon combos of components are todays factors that defines Corewar, IMO. > Current hill types: > one-shots: Toxic Spirit, Monowire > scanners: Harmony Snoot, Hazy Test 63, Clockwork, Claw [anti-imp] > > imp-stones: Son of Vain, Thunder Strike, Pixie > > paper: Dawn, My First Paper, test, Revenge of the Papers, > Dark Craft, Firestorm, PolyPap Isn't Firestorm a paper/imp? And dawn? > bomber: Return of Vanquisher [also clear] > unknown: Driftwood [results suggest bomber, name suggests dodger] Bomber, presumable. Dodger wouldn't enter the hill, if you ask me. > Lots of paper ... nice big targets. That said, Revenge of the Papers is > interesting as it is resistant to regular SPL carpets. Maybe it is time for my first one shot. Erm, must think this over once again. :-) -- Lukasz Grabun (reply-to field is fake, use grabek (at) acn dot waw dot pl to reply)